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Topic: WTT Star Contender Lanzhou 2023, 10/2-8
Posted By: zeio
Subject: WTT Star Contender Lanzhou 2023, 10/2-8
Date Posted: 09/11/2023 at 3:36am
https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2777" rel="nofollow - https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2777

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g



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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 09/11/2023 at 9:08am
Probably a record in terms of numbers of Top CNT players registered in the same tournament.

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 09/11/2023 at 10:10am
big daddy tourney at last! (waiting for more countries to sponsor a Grand Smash event)

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Posted By: KiwiPong
Date Posted: 09/11/2023 at 10:55am
More players will sign up right lol? 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 09/21/2023 at 6:40am
https://worldtabletennis.com/description?artId=2980" rel="nofollow - https://worldtabletennis.com/description?artId=2980
Quote Women's Singles Main Draw:

    Adriana Diaz | Host Wildcard
    Miwa Harimoto | Host Wildcard
    Hina Hayata | WTT Nomination
    Shin Yubin | WTT Nomination

...

Men's Singles Main Draw:

    Dimitrij Ovtcharov | Host Wildcard
    Felix Lebrun | Host Wildcard


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 09/24/2023 at 2:51pm
China so purposeful with the wildcards.

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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 09/26/2023 at 2:44pm
https://jtta.or.jp/tour/14580" rel="nofollow - https://jtta.or.jp/tour/14580

The JTTA site indicates Miwa's brother is sent on JTTA expense, and Ito and Hirano have applied to play at their own expense.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: KiwiPong
Date Posted: 09/26/2023 at 6:35pm
Whoa! I wonder how do they make decisions like that?!? 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 09/28/2023 at 5:11am
Ito's and Hirano's name "were disappeared".

One 5ch user points out that Uda's name disappeared earlier as well.
https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1695801226/199-" rel="nofollow - https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1695801226/199-

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 10/01/2023 at 10:48pm
starting today

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Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 10/02/2023 at 7:03am
How Ludovic Gombos play there? He is not in national team


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/02/2023 at 2:21pm
Main draws out. Interesting match-ups for MS/WS.

Looks like Harimoto will play.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/03/2023 at 5:05am
FZD has pulled out.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 10/03/2023 at 6:16am
Liang Jishan and Ma Jinbao managed to qualify for the main draw in both singles and doubles. 


Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 10/03/2023 at 10:24am
lmao
I saw Shinozuka as top seed and I was shook.


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Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 10/03/2023 at 10:27am
 Ryoichi Yoshiyama and Oh Junsung thanking their stars because they don't have to face Fan Zhendong in the 2nd round again.

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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/03/2023 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

How Ludovic Gombos play there? He is not in national team

You don't need to be national team to play, you just need your national/sponsor federation to approve your entry.


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BH: GT
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Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 10/03/2023 at 10:20pm
Why is the women's draw not full? So many byes in a star contender.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/04/2023 at 12:42am
Not enough players.

MS: 58
WS: 47

The PDR, only 6 from top 20 for SCT, sounds so dumb as it ends up hurting participation in this case, especially when WTT can't host enough GS and CS for the top players, yet the WTT structure and ranking system force players to participate.

https://wttwebcmsprod.blob.core.windows.net/technicaldocuments/WTT_Series%20&%20Feeder_Handbook_2023.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://wttwebcmsprod.blob.core.windows.net/technicaldocuments/WTT_Series%20&%20Feeder_Handbook_2023.pdf
Quote 4. PLAYER CODE OF CONDUCT
4.1 Entry/Withdrawal Offences

...

4.1.13 Top 100 Player Half Year Playing Schedule
a) All top 100 singles player on the ITTF TTWR must register their half-year playing schedule,
defined as any Table Tennis event, (i.e. WTT Events and non-WTT Events) with WTT by 31st
December and 30th June respectively. Failure to do so will result in a fine of USD $500.


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 10/04/2023 at 1:29am
Too many fees for most of the European players for 1 only tournament there.
Not interesting enough, also when you guess you have a lot of probabilities to face a CNT player in the 1st or 2nd round....
In 32 days, there will be the Taiyuan contender....also in China and also "isolated" in the calendar and in this part of the world.
They should have plannified both tournaments one after the other....so the fees would have been better absorbed for the non Asian players.


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Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/04/2023 at 4:59am
MD R16
LJK/Yuan Licen 1-3 Li Hon Ming/Pau Yik Man (-5, -8, 6, -9)

MS R48
Lam Siu Hang 3-0 Oikawa (9, 5, 8)
Matsushima 0-3 Habesohn (-9, -5, -9)
Gnanasekaran 3-2 Drinkhall (-7, 9, 10, -8, 7)
WCT 2-3 Togami (-8, -8, 12, 2, -8)
Gardos 1-3 Ma Jinbao (9, -6, -9, -9)

MS QR2
Ho Kwan Kit 1-3 Ma Jinbao (-8, -11, 8, -6)

MS R48
Chen Yuanyu 2-3 Izaac Quek (-7, -9, 10, 3, -5)
M. Yoshimura 0-3 Huang Yan-Cheng (-10, -9, -10)
Yang Tzu-Yi 2-3 Yuan Licen (8, -6, 3, -9, -8)

XD R16
LJK/QTY 3-2 Joo Cheonhui/CSM (8, -12, -4, 1, 8)

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 10/04/2023 at 10:38am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

How Ludovic Gombos play there? He is not in national team


You don't need to be national team to play, you just need your national/sponsor federation to approve your entry.



Even I can play if my federation will approve? There is no level requirements to enter WTT Contender?


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/04/2023 at 10:53pm
Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

How Ludovic Gombos play there? He is not in national team


You don't need to be national team to play, you just need your national/sponsor federation to approve your entry.



Even I can play if my federation will approve? There is no level requirements to enter WTT Contender?
  
The qualifiers, as long as there is room, not really.  When there is no room or competition to enter, max restrictions across countries on a first come first serve basis become critical and then rankings and other criteria are more important.


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BH: GT
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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 10/04/2023 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

How Ludovic Gombos play there? He is not in national team


You don't need to be national team to play, you just need your national/sponsor federation to approve your entry.



Even I can play if my federation will approve? There is no level requirements to enter WTT Contender?


You can check out the WTT handbook and guild lines

There are restrictions per MA and players ranking.
If you meet such requirements and your MA is willing to enter you, then no problem


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 4:21am
WS R32
Joo Cheonhui 3-1 Zeng Jian (10, -9, 4, 8)
G1 09, 1210

MS R32
CSM 3-2 Pitchford (3, -9, 10, -8, 8)
Shinozuka 2-3 Yoshiyama (-8, 9, 6, -5, -11)

A. Lebrun 2-3 Quek Izaac (9, 9, -7, -13, -9)
G4 109, 1315 Lebrun served into the net
G5 43 TO for Lebrun, 911

WD QF
Joo Cheonhui/CHJ 3-1 Nagasaki/Kihara (9, -7, 3, 10)

XD
LGY/WMY 1-3 Harimoto/Hayata (-8, -8, 9, -5)

MS R32
Boll 3-1 Xiang Peng (9, 7, -8, 8)
Huang Yan-Cheng 2-3 ZQH (-7, 10, 10, -7, -9)
LSS 2-3 Liang Yanning (6, -4, 10, -6, -8)
Habesohn 0-3 Harimoto (-3, -5, -3) Huge upset! LOL

WS R32
Kim Nayeong 1-3 A. Diaz (-5, -10, 5, -5)

MS R32
LGY 3-1 (-6, 9, 8, 8)
CCY 2-3 AJH (-7, -9, 9, 10, -13)
Ma Jinbao 3-2 Kao Cheng-Jui (-5, 11, 8, -5, 6)

WS R32
Chen Yi 3-2 Nagasaki (-9, -5, 8, 11, 5)
G3 26, 37, 87, 88, 118
G4 610, 910 TO for Nagasaki, 1010, 1011, 1311
G5 23, 63, 65, 115

LWS 3-1 Hayata (9, -9, 8, 10)
SYS 3-2 Suh Hyo Won (7, -4, -13, 6, 5)

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 7:08am
Please anyone got a link to table 1??

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Posted By: pongfugrasshopper
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 7:53am
Originally posted by troubadour troubadour wrote:

Please anyone got a link to table 1??




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Posted By: pongfugrasshopper
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 8:16am
Ugh, Nagasaki just cannot hold a lead.  Up 2-1,10-6, she cratered Cry 

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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 8:28am
Quote WS R32
Chen Yi 3-2 Nagasaki (-9, -5, 8, 11, 5)
G3 26, 37, 87, 88, 118
G4 610, 910 TO for Nagasaki, 1010, 1011, 1311
G5 23, 63, 65, 115

LWS 3-1 Hayata (9, -9, 8, 10)


Hirano: It might not have been a bad thing I wasn't invited.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: pongfugrasshopper
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 8:49am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Quote WS R32
Chen Yi 2-3 Nagasaki (-9, -5, 8, 11, 5)
G3 26, 37, 87, 88, 118
G4 610, 910 TO for Nagasaki, 1010, 1011, 1311
G5 23, 63, 65, 115

LWS 3-1 Hayata (9, -9, 8, 10)


Hirano: It might not have been a bad thing I wasn't invited.
They all probably need a good rest.  Asian Championship followed by Asian Games.  Immediately followed by this Star Contender.  

Hopefully, they'll get a good rest before WTT Champions Frankfurt.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 8:54am
Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Quote WS R32
Chen Yi 2-3 Nagasaki (-9, -5, 8, 11, 5)
G3 26, 37, 87, 88, 118
G4 610, 910 TO for Nagasaki, 1010, 1011, 1311
G5 23, 63, 65, 115

LWS 3-1 Hayata (9, -9, 8, 10)


Hirano: It might not have been a bad thing I wasn't invited.
They all probably need a good rest.  Asian Championship followed by Asian Games.  Immediately followed by this Star Contender.  

Hopefully, they'll get a good rest before WTT Champions Frankfurt.

Yep.  Rest and time to adjust to the venue change.  Not easy to switch and take on such motivated opponents in short order.


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FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 9:24am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:


MS R32
Ma Jinbao 3-2 Kao Cheng-Jui (-5, 11, 8, -5, 6)

Wow! That secures him 55 points for the world ranking, nice. (Plus another 20 points for qualifying? not sure how that works.)


Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 9:26am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Yep.  Rest and time to adjust to the venue change.  Not easy to switch and take on such motivated opponents in short order.

The altitude seems to be a factor (5000ft / 1500m).


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 9:51am
Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Yep.  Rest and time to adjust to the venue change.  Not easy to switch and take on such motivated opponents in short order.

The altitude seems to be a factor (5000ft / 1500m).

That all by itself can do it.  People who have played in Vegas/Colorado know this...


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https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Stiga Cybershape Carbon
FH: GT
BH: GT
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/05/2023 at 9:52am
And it's said Lanzhou has signed 5-year contract.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 2:24am
WS R16
Joo Cheonhui 0-3 Liu Weishan (-4, -7, -8)
G3 72, 74, 84, 87 TO for JCH, 811

XD SF
LJH/SYB 2-3 Harimoto/Hayata (-8, -12, 5, 4, -9)

MS R16
Yoshiyama 2-3 Ma Jinbao (7, -8, -6, 4, -6)

WS R16
WMY 3-2 CY (1, 4, -11, -7, 7)

MS R16
Quek Izaac 2-3 LJK (9, -4, -7, 8, -4)

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 5:13am
nice to see Chen Yi developing some tenacity, it wasn't possible today but she still has time.

Ma Long is still elegant btw, He's still gonna be top 10 easily if he was allowed to play till 40.


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How many eyes have seen their dreams


Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 6:22am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:


MS R16
Yoshiyama 2-3 Ma Jinbao (7, -8, -6, 4, -6)

Ma who? Ma Jinbao!

That win alone is worth another 50 points for the world ranking. After this week he'll be the highest-ranked male US player.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 6:32am
Ma Jinbao/马金宝 (金宝 = Golden Treasure, can also mean Golden Boy)

XD SF
WCQ/SYS 2-3 LSD/KM (-6, 8, 7, -10, -9)

MS R16
Liang Yanning 1-3 Harimoto (-9, 10, -6, -1)
G4 010, 110, 111

LGY 3-1 Boll (-4, 8, 10, 8)

WS R16
Kihara 3-0 WYD (7, 7, 4)
95, 105, 107, 117
95, 96, 106, 107, 117 edge or side for WYD? Ump says side
20, 21, 41 TO for WYD, 42, 102, 104, 114
Kihara looks totally unaffected by the thin air.

Harimoto 3-1 SYB (-4, 4, 5, 9)

MD SF
CSM/LSS 1-3 Lebrun brothers (-6, -13, 8, -9)

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: pongfugrasshopper
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 7:07am
Ma Jinbao might end up being the best player in the MLTT long term.

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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 7:28am
LGY beat Boll merely by reverse pendulum serve. Boll could not  read the spin at all. 

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Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 7:37am
Wow, Kihara!  I haven't seen a top WCNT take a beating like that since the Ito - ZYL 'no unforced errors' match.


Posted By: pongfugrasshopper
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 7:52am
Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

Wow, Kihara!  I haven't seen a top WCNT take a beating like that since the Ito - ZYL 'no unforced errors' match.
She played like a boss!  Hope she can continue it.


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 7:55am
Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

Wow, Kihara!  I haven't seen a top WCNT take a beating like that since the Ito - ZYL 'no unforced errors' match.
She played like a boss!  Hope she can continue it.


That shot making in the final game was absurd.


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Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 8:08am
Like Hayata, Kihara doesn't get any points for beating WYD (WR4).

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023_40_SEN_WS.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023_40_SEN_WS.html
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/19th-asian-games-hangzhou.31953/post-425714" rel="nofollow - https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/19th-asian-games-hangzhou.31953/post-425714

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 9:28am
MS R16
Ovtcharov 1-3 ZQH (8, -13, -7, -11)
G4 05, 710, 1110, 1113

F. Lebrun 3-1 LSD (-11, 5, 11, 6)
49, 59, 510, 1010, 1011, 1111, 1113 Lebrun served off the table
62, 63, 74, 84, 85, 115
33, 53, 55, 65, 67 TO for Lebrun, 69, 89 TO for LSD, 810, 1010, 1011, 1311
13, 73, 76, 116
WH's expression is priceless.









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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 9:51am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Like Hayata, Kihara doesn't get any points for beating WYD (WR4).

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023_40_SEN_WS.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023_40_SEN_WS.html
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/19th-asian-games-hangzhou.31953/post-425714" rel="nofollow - https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/19th-asian-games-hangzhou.31953/post-425714

Just as well, everyone is now beating Wang Yidi lol.


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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 9:53am
Women's quarterfinalists: 6 CHN, 2 JPN.

Men's quarterfinalists: 5 CHN, 1 JPN, 1 FRA, 1 USA.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 10:31am
It won't be an easy road for LSD from now on.



https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92798&PID=1138668&title=wtt-star-contender-goa-2023-2-273-5#1138668" rel="nofollow - https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92798&PID=1138668&title=wtt-star-contender-goa-2023-2-273-5#1138668
Quote To put things into perspective. In Cantonese, 前提係要對面畀你爆先, literally "the premise is that the opponent LETS you BLAST first."

WTT CT Doha 2023
SF JWJ 3-0 LSD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyD8o4eVz2g" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyD8o4eVz2g
R16 CSM 1-2 -> 2-3 LSD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5H5hEiK4Lo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5H5hEiK4Lo

WTT SCT Goa 2023
R16 CDS 2-0 -> 2-3 LSD


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 12:25pm
This lashing at Lanzhou performance by Felix was a perfect response to the thrashing at Goa.  I suspect LSD left this match almost puzzled as Felix did after the thrashing at Goa.

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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 3:01pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Yep.  Rest and time to adjust to the venue change.  Not easy to switch and take on such motivated opponents in short order.

The altitude seems to be a factor (5000ft / 1500m).

That all by itself can do it.  People who have played in Vegas/Colorado know this...
This is ignorant of me.  I didn't realize Vagas is of such an altitude and my previous playing there (in blackjack) didn't alert me to the fact either.


Posted By: jfolsen
Date Posted: 10/06/2023 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Yep.  Rest and time to adjust to the venue change.  Not easy to switch and take on such motivated opponents in short order.

The altitude seems to be a factor (5000ft / 1500m).

That all by itself can do it.  People who have played in Vegas/Colorado know this...
This is ignorant of me.  I didn't realize Vagas is of such an altitude and my previous playing there (in blackjack) didn't alert me to the fact either.


Las Vegas is about 2000 feet. This is more like Albuquerque, NM. There I looped every ball off the end for the first day. Plus everything seems faster and spin doesn't wear off.


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 1:07am
WD F
JJH/SYB 0-3 WO CM/WMY

MD F
LSD/Xu Yingbin 2-3 Lebrun brothers

WS QF
CXT 3-2 Kihara (-9, 2, 4, -5, 6)
G5 44, 64 TO for Kihara, 104, 105 TO for CXT, 106, 116

MS QF
LGY 3-1 Harimoto (8, -8, 15, 9)
Ma Jinbao 2-3 F. Lebrun (10, -6, -5, 10, -7)
ZQH 2-3 WCQ (9, -10, -6, 9, -0)

WS QF
SYS 3-0 Harimoto (7, 9, 10)
QTY 0-3 CM (-4, -9, -5)


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: KiwiPong
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 1:32am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

WD F
JJH/SYB 0-3 WO CM/WMY

SYB withdrew due to injury. She probably played too much. Worry this for Hayata too…..


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 4:54am
Ma Jin Buu going way past his expected ceiling.  Can he steal candy from the kid?

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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 8:21am
Quote WS QF
SYS 3-0 Harimoto (7, 9, 10)

Harimoto had the lead in G2 and G3. Satisfactory for http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1124326&title=2023-zennoh-cup-osaka-11-2526#1124326" rel="nofollow - the first encounter .

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 8:40am
10.000 $ only for the winners of a star contender......This is a joke.....

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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 9:50am
XD F
LSD/KM 3-2 Harimoto/Hayata (-7, 9, -7, 10, 11)
Harimoto back to Miwa's brother. Had a big lead in G4 and G5.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: aerial
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 9:57am
Looking forward to Ma Long v Felix Lebrun


Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 10:05am
Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Women's quarterfinalists: 6 CHN, 2 JPN.

Men's quarterfinalists: 5 CHN, 1 JPN, 1 FRA, 1 USA.

Women's semifinalists: 4 CHN.

Men's semifinalists: 3 CHN, 1 FRA.

Winner mixed doubles: CHN.
Winner women's doubles: CHN.
Winner men's doubles: FRA.


Posted By: pongfugrasshopper
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Women's quarterfinalists: 6 CHN, 2 JPN.

Men's quarterfinalists: 5 CHN, 1 JPN, 1 FRA, 1 USA.

Women's semifinalists: 4 CHN.

Men's semifinalists: 3 CHN, 1 FRA.

Winner mixed doubles: CHN.
Winner women's doubles: CHN.
Winner men's doubles: FRA.
Great tournament for Ma Jinbao by making the QF.  And getting 2 games from Felix is no joke either.


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 10:12pm
Felix is alone in the last 4 with 3 Chinese dragons. It's kind of amazing, we're landing in Homeric territory.

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Posted By: jfolsen
Date Posted: 10/07/2023 at 10:16pm
Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Felix is alone in the last 4 with 3 Chinese dragons. It's kind of amazing, we're landing in Homeric territory.


Homeric might be an apt choice. Achilles was told that if he went to Troy he would die, but his name would live on forever. LOL


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 2:00am
1/2 ws sys-wmy about to start  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0d45W4tyHk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0d45W4tyHk

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 3:31am
lgy pretty much elsewhere tonite. or maybe chuqin is just too good.

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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 3:34am
Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

lgy pretty much elsewhere tonite. or maybe chuqin is just too good.

I think LGY didn't see any point in delaying the main event.  I am grateful. 


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 3:35am
so post prime ma long v. pre prime felix: who is your money on?

I am going for the underdoooog! starting now.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 3:44am
Why does Ma Long get no comments on his obviously hidden serves?

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Posted By: Shifu
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 3:57am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Why does Ma Long get no comments on his obviously hidden serves?

He has always done that. Nothing new


Posted By: Tempest/Comet
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 4:08am
Hina Hayata posted on Instagram before leaving Lanzhou-

“Thank you very much to everyone in Lanzhou for your support and at the Asian Games. Despite being in an unfamiliar environment at the Asian Games, each and every athlete helped each other and thanks to their cooperation, they were able to win a team silver medal and a singles silver medal. The players usually compete as rivals, but they always practiced together, picked up the ball for me, and cheered me on until the end, whether it was in team games or singles. Thanks to the cooperation of the four of us, it was an unforgettable tournament. 

However, I went into the Lanzhou tournament without feeling the aftereffects of that experience, and there were parts of me that struggled to adapt, especially in singles, and I must reflect on both the results and the content. 

I knew from the beginning that it would be this schedule, and I was determined to participate and I made the choice myself, so the results at the Asian Games and Lanzhou results are all based on my own ability. 

I think - No matter what you say, the past will not change. However, I felt that this experience would make me even stronger and allow me to grow. No matter what the reason, no matter what happens, the winner wins in the end. That’s strength. 

That's why there is still so much work to do. I'm sure there will be many painful experiences in the future, but I want to learn from each experience, understand myself at that time, and do my best to become a more fulfilled person by Paris. 

My thoughts - The tournaments will continue in Oman, Turkey, and Frankfurt, but first of all, don't lose sight of yourself and try not to repeat these mistakes. I'll do my best. 

It's been a while since I wrote a long post, but thank you to everyone who read this far. I don't usually post much, and I get confused about what to post, so I rarely post, but I'd be happy if you could wait patiently. 

I think this Asian Games was an opportunity for many people to learn about us. Even in Lanzhou, many people called my name and cheered me on. I am truly grateful and I am filled with joy. We will continue to do our best to convey the joy of table tennis to everyone who supports us and to repay them with results, so we appreciate your continued support. 

Make a choice you won't regret. Cherish every day.”



Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 4:18am
WS SF
CXT 2-3 CM (-7, 4, -9, 7, -8)
SYS 3-2 WMY (-10, 3, -5, 9, 8)

MS SF
LGY 0-3 WCQ (-10, -3, -3)

F. Lebrun 2-3 ML (-6, 7, -7, 4, -2)
G5 14, 24, 25, 211

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 4:20am
disappointing ending. But I can rest assured that Wang will destroy Ma in the final as usual.  Have a good night everyone.

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 4:24am
Ma Long manages so well the stress.
Unbelievable results again....when you see the opposition (all the CNT except FZD), especially at 34 Y/O (nearly 35)


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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 4:57am
It seems many French people think Ma Long was unfair because he broke the rythm in the decider when Felix served.
Personnaly, I don't think this made the end result and I don't think Ma Long exaggerated.
The exces is wrong in both ways.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 6:04am
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

It seems many French people think Ma Long was unfair because he broke the rythm in the decider when Felix served.
Personnaly, I don't think this made the end result and I don't think Ma Long exaggerated.
The exces is wrong in both ways.

I think ITTF has to make the rules around this more objective.  It was clearly a strategy to counter Felix rhythm and it is a valid one given Felix pace of play. But the rules need to be clearer so that both parties know what they are working with.  Ma Long has always tried to slow the pace down when he is not playing well and he needs it even more as he ages.


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FH: GT
BH: GT
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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 9:18am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Why does Ma Long get no comments on his obviously hidden serves?

ML hiding serve = master of gamesmanship
WCQ hiding serve = class-A war criminal

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: Twiddler
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 10:27am
How many times did Ma wipe his hand on the table? At least 50, more likely 100. Why do the rules makers allow a player to wipe his hand on the table? It should never be done. The table is not a towel. 


Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 10:35am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

It seems many French people think Ma Long was unfair because he broke the rythm in the decider when Felix served.
Personnaly, I don't think this made the end result and I don't think Ma Long exaggerated.
The exces is wrong in both ways.

I think ITTF has to make the rules around this more objective.  It was clearly a strategy to counter Felix rhythm and it is a valid one given Felix pace of play. But the rules need to be clearer so that both parties know what they are working with.  Ma Long has always tried to slow the pace down when he is not playing well and he needs it even more as he ages.

Most players will only serve when the receivers are ready. But the Lebrun brothers are always there ready to serve before the receivers even bend down. I did not see ML stalk that much in this match.  


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 10:37am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Why does Ma Long get no comments on his obviously hidden serves?

ML hiding serve = master of gamesmanship
WCQ hiding serve = class-A war criminal

WCQ has became the public enemy of TieBa because of his hidden serves, fans, and behavior. Obviously, ZQH and LGY almost gave up playing at the end of their matches against WCQ.


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Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 1:33pm
The serve rules need to be totally revamped.  I feel that WCQ contacts the ball over the table quite frequently.  Lots of the pros are hiding their serves.  Some are just blatantly serving illegally and not getting called.  In some sports the attitude is "If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying hard enough" and table tennis definitely fits in that category. 


Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

It seems many French people think Ma Long was unfair because he broke the rythm in the decider when Felix served.
Personnaly, I don't think this made the end result and I don't think Ma Long exaggerated.
The exces is wrong in both ways.

I think ITTF has to make the rules around this more objective.  It was clearly a strategy to counter Felix rhythm and it is a valid one given Felix pace of play. But the rules need to be clearer so that both parties know what they are working with.  Ma Long has always tried to slow the pace down when he is not playing well and he needs it even more as he ages.

Most players will only serve when the receivers are ready. But the Lebrun brothers are always there ready to serve before the receivers even bend down. I did not see ML stalk that much in this match.  
He only delayed him from serving as fast as he wanted ONCE in a set that ended 11-2, but people are crying. It's funny.

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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 6:30pm
Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

It seems many French people think Ma Long was unfair because he broke the rythm in the decider when Felix served.
Personnaly, I don't think this made the end result and I don't think Ma Long exaggerated.
The exces is wrong in both ways.

I think ITTF has to make the rules around this more objective.  It was clearly a strategy to counter Felix rhythm and it is a valid one given Felix pace of play. But the rules need to be clearer so that both parties know what they are working with.  Ma Long has always tried to slow the pace down when he is not playing well and he needs it even more as he ages.

Most players will only serve when the receivers are ready. But the Lebrun brothers are always there ready to serve before the receivers even bend down. I did not see ML stalk that much in this match.  

It is not about what most people do, there is absolutely no reason why the receiver shouldn't be ready once the umpire has declared the point ready to begin.  The server should be allowed to serve once the umpire has established that, the receiver shouldn't be determining when the server can or should serve.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 6:33pm
Originally posted by troubadour troubadour wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

It seems many French people think Ma Long was unfair because he broke the rythm in the decider when Felix served.
Personnaly, I don't think this made the end result and I don't think Ma Long exaggerated.
The exces is wrong in both ways.

I think ITTF has to make the rules around this more objective.  It was clearly a strategy to counter Felix rhythm and it is a valid one given Felix pace of play. But the rules need to be clearer so that both parties know what they are working with.  Ma Long has always tried to slow the pace down when he is not playing well and he needs it even more as he ages.

Most players will only serve when the receivers are ready. But the Lebrun brothers are always there ready to serve before the receivers even bend down. I did not see ML stalk that much in this match.  
He only delayed him from serving as fast as he wanted ONCE in a set that ended 11-2, but people are crying. It's funny.

That is one interpretation, there are others.  It wasn't the first time Ma Long held up his hand to prevent Felix from serving.  And you don't always get to see both players during every point.  As someone who was accused of quick serving quite a bit a few years back, I am 100% sympathetic with the Lebruns on this and think rules that make the flow more objective should be established. 


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BH: GT
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/08/2023 at 7:12pm
Felix was deflating right after each game he won. We can tell he is building up though. At some point he'll be able to seal the deal. Obviousy the mental it takes to beat ML today was there, just not long enough, like 2 games in a row. Seeing him dominating in the 4th only to flatten horribly in the 5th was sad but it's no big deal, we know he's got it all and he is on his way there, he just needs a bit more time.

Does the 5th game count as Felix choking? I am curious about how people see that last game from a mental standpoint.



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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/09/2023 at 7:12am
By the definition of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_%28sports%29" rel="nofollow - choking , no. He never had the lead in G5 like https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91109&PID=1121787&title=short-video-about-felix-lebrun#1121787" rel="nofollow - when he played HZW . This was only the 2nd time he reached the MS SF after WTT SCT Goa 2023, where he got his ass handed to him by LSD. He did http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93612&PID=1145351&title=wtt-star-contender-lanzhou-2023-10-28#1145351" rel="nofollow - extremely well this time around , getting the MD title and going the distance with ML on the 2nd encounter and in China, apparently unaffected by the altitude and jet lag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIuG3YwaTzs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIuG3YwaTzs


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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: Lightspin
Date Posted: 10/09/2023 at 8:11am
I find serving when the opponent isn't ready ridiculously rude and unsportsmanlike.  If someone needs a second or two to compose themself then so be it.  If the server gets to dictate when the point starts and the receiver has no say in the matter, soon we will see players rushing to the table and serving when their opponent is still feet away.  Once the receiver is ready, then and only then should the server serve.  On the other hand, once the receiver is in the ready position, that is it.  They should be ready to receive.  This nonsense doesn't happen in tennis. 


Posted By: troubadour
Date Posted: 10/09/2023 at 9:57am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by troubadour troubadour wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

It seems many French people think Ma Long was unfair because he broke the rythm in the decider when Felix served.
Personnaly, I don't think this made the end result and I don't think Ma Long exaggerated.
The exces is wrong in both ways.

I think ITTF has to make the rules around this more objective.  It was clearly a strategy to counter Felix rhythm and it is a valid one given Felix pace of play. But the rules need to be clearer so that both parties know what they are working with.  Ma Long has always tried to slow the pace down when he is not playing well and he needs it even more as he ages.

Most players will only serve when the receivers are ready. But the Lebrun brothers are always there ready to serve before the receivers even bend down. I did not see ML stalk that much in this match.  
He only delayed him from serving as fast as he wanted ONCE in a set that ended 11-2, but people are crying. It's funny.

That is one interpretation, there are others.  It wasn't the first time Ma Long held up his hand to prevent Felix from serving.  And you don't always get to see both players during every point.  As someone who was accused of quick serving quite a bit a few years back, I am 100% sympathetic with the Lebruns on this and think rules that make the flow more objective should be established. 
11 - 2 not 6-5 or 7-5 in the lead then overturned.


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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 10/09/2023 at 10:24am
If the receiver stalks, it is the umpire's responsibility to issue a warning/yellow card to the receiver for time wasting. The problem right now is that umpires/WTT do not enforce any rule. No enforcement on colors of shirts for both sides, no call for any hidden serve...

Personally I don't like my opponent quickly serves to me when I just bend down and have not gotten into the mode for receiving. 


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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/09/2023 at 10:39am
https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/HMO-17th-edition-July-2023.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/HMO-17th-edition-July-2023.pdf
Quote 8.1.4 Except in WTT events, opposing players and pairs must wear shirts of different colours. The
umpire must resolve any question in this regard before the players start their practice period
and, preferably, at the Call Area.


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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: MRen
Date Posted: 10/09/2023 at 2:09pm
What happened in Women's Doubles Finals ?
It says Walk Over (not played) ?  Korean player injured ? 


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 10/09/2023 at 2:22pm
SYB had to pull out of the WD F (as well as WTT CT Muscat 2023 and WTT CT Anatalya 2023) due to low back pain after 1-3 Harimoto.

https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/25197735" rel="nofollow - https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/25197735

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g


Posted By: KiwiPong
Date Posted: 10/09/2023 at 2:38pm
Not surprised injuries are starting to occur. SYB has been playing non stop. 


Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

SYB had to pull out of the WD F (as well as WTT CT Muscat 2023 and WTT CT Anatalya 2023) due to low back pain after 1-3 Harimoto.

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Posted By: Fixpoint
Date Posted: 10/17/2023 at 9:27am



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