Qiu Dang

I feel like starting a petition to have your name changed to amberheard23. After getting exposed as a chronic liar all these years, amberheard23 gives me this "DON'T get me started on listing" crap? I have no time for more lies.

First round exits? Fine. Let's go cherry picking yet again. These players below are around the same age and were top 10-20 and seeded at various times during the Olympic cycles of Rio 2016 and Tokyo 2020.

WCT happens to have had the least first round exits over the years, despite turning his focus on the XD and MT between 2018 and 2021.

Niwa, despite a few years younger, has had the most first round exits. 6 in a row in 2019. He lost more singles matches than he won in 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 while being ranked in the 10s.

Senior events of ITTF World Tour(no WTGF)/Challenge or WTT events(no WTT Cup Finals) only. R32/R64 could be the first round of main draw in World Tour until 2016, so both are counted. Qualification round, group and post group qualication round are indicated in the breakdown list.

R32+R64 only
LSS 30+16=46
Niwa 34+11=45
JYS 32+8=40
Falck 19+14=33
WCT 20+11=31

Round/stops that year
LSS
2008 R32 1/4=25%, R64 1/4=25%
2009 R32 2/4=50%, R64 1/4=25%
2010 R32 2/7=28%, R64 1/7=14%, Grp 1/7=14%
2011 R32 3/7=42%, R64 1/7=14%
2012 R32 2/6=33%, R64 2/6=33%
2013 R32 2/6=33%, R64 4/6=66%
2014 R32 1/7=14%, R64 4/7=57%, Grp 1/7=14%
2015 R32 4/11=36%, R64 1/11=9%
2016 R32 2/8=25%, R64 1/8=12%
2017 R32 2/4=50%
2018 R32 2/9=22%
2019 R32 5/11=45%, QR32 1/11=9%
2020 R32 1/1=100%
2021 R32 1/3=33%

Niwa
2009 R32 3/6=50%, R64 3/6=50%
2010 R32 1/6=16%, R64 3/6=50%, Post Grp QR 1/6=16%, Grp 1/6=16%
2011 R32 5/10=50%, R64 2/10=20%, Post Grp QR 1/10
2012 R32 1/7=14%
2013 R32 0/5=0%
2014 R32 3/8=37%, R64 2/8=25%
2015 R32 3/7=42%
2016 R32 3/9=33%, R64 1/9=11%
2017 R32 2/9=22%
2018 R32 5/10=50%
2019 R32 6/12=50%
2020 R32 1/3=33%
2021 R32 1/1=100%

JYS
2009 R32 1/4=25%, R64 1/4=25%, Post Grp QR 1/4=25%, Grp 1/4=25%
2010 R32 2/7=25%, R64 1/7=14%, Grp 1/7=14%
2011 R32 5/8=62%, R64 1/8=12%, Grp 1/8=12%
2012 R32 2/7=28%, R64 2/7=28%, Grp 2/7=28%
2013 R32 4/6=66%, R64 1/6=16%
2014 R32 5/7=71%, R64 1/7=14%
2015 R32 2/10=20%, R64 1/10=10%
2016 R32 2/8=25%
2017 R32 2/4=50%, Q Last Rnd 2/4=50%
2018 R32 3/10=30%, Q 2nd Last 2/10=20%, Grp 1/10=10%
2019 R32 3/9=33%, QR32 1/9=11% QR128 1/9=11%
2020 R32 1/1=100%
2021 R32 0/1=0%

Falck
2009 Grp 1/3=33%
2010 R64 2/4=50%
2011 R64 4/6=66%
2012 R32 1/9=11%, R64 3/9=33%
2013 R64 1/6=16%, Grp 4/6=66%
2014 R32 1/6=16%, R64 2/6=33%, Post Grp QR 2/6=33%
2015 R32 3/11=27%, R64 2/11=18%, Post Grp QR 3/11=27%
2016 R32 2/5=20%, Q 2nd Last 1/5=20%
2017 R32 3/6=50%
2018 R32 2/9=22%
2019 R32 3/8=37%
2020 R32 1/2=50%
2021 R32 2/3=66%

WCT
2010 R64 1/4=25%, Post Grp QR 2/4=50%, Grp 1/4=25%
2011 R32 1/6=16%, R64 2/6=33%, Grp 3/6=50%
2012 R32 1/9=11%, R64 4/9=44%, Post Grp QR 1/9=11%, Grp 3/9=33%
2013 R32 1/9=11%, R64 3/9=33%, Grp 3/9=33%
2014 R32 3/9=33%, R64 1/9=11%, Grp 1/9=11%
2015 R32 2/10=20%, Post Grp QR 1/10=10%
2016 R32 0/8=0%
2017 R32 2/6=33%
2018 R32 4/8=50%
2019 R32 4/12=33%, QR32 1/12=8%
2020 R32 2/3=66%, QR128 1/3=33%
2021 R32 0/1=0%

Edited by zeio - 06/28/2022 at 2:23am

In before amberheard23.

To sum up:
Qiu Dang, WR10 career high(6/2022), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED
Wong Chun Ting, WR6 career high(2/2017), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED

Edited by zeio - 06/28/2022 at 5:41am

zeio wrote: In before amberheard23. To sum up: Qiu Dang, WR10 career high(6/2022), best penhold player outside CNT Wong Chun Ting, WR6 career high(7/2017), best penhold player outside CNT, OVERRATED

Edited by jackwong23 - 06/28/2022 at 2:59am

Indeed he has a losing head to head record against most top 10 players. He also had many first, second round exits when he was a top 10 player, where is the lie ?

Edited by jackwong23 - 06/28/2022 at 3:37am

Qiu Dang has become the new German Champion.

jackwong23 wrote: zeio wrote: In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020. Most people would disagree with you. Ito & Hayata are the 2 best players in Japan right now.  Hirano has been figured out by the Chinese since her Asian championship victory. Hirano & Kasumi's  Winning % against the Chinese  has been pathetic in the last 4, 5  years. On the other hand,  Ito & Hayata has been the greatest threats to the Chinese in the last few years. They have the best winning ratios against cnt players (out of all Japanese players).  Their high rankings are fully justified in my opinion.

You gotta spend more time on Tieba.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7791706026?pid=143737116492&cid=0#143737116492

应该不会吧，伊藤可是奥运金牌，平野是世界冠军还是单项，早田还没有

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7791473492?pid=143735817402&cid=143738741262#143738741262

平野人家也是有世界冠军头衔的，她目前是日本女队唯一一个单打冠军的头衔吧，但是成绩还是比不上伊藤。

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7883402835?pid=144474492331&cid=0#144474492331

伊藤第一（奥运会冠军） 平野第二（世界杯冠军，亚锦赛冠军）

其实我觉得是伊藤平野石川。伊藤拿了第一枚奥运金牌，平野创造了大赛突破我国选手的记录（平野一串三之后，才出现了伊藤瑞公德公串三串二的多次记录，回看这段不禁感慨，陈梦算得上知耻而后勇吧），石川女左不但混双拿牌，还奠定了日本女团女双的稳定基础。

zeio wrote: At this point, you've lost all credibility, but I'll give you a break on WCT. You see, I have been bashing Ishikawa since late 2016, but that is entirely based on facts. Back in May, you claimed Hayata was "vindicated in the sense that she is now recognised as one of the best 2 players in Japan". I thought otherwise. What happened last week? In terms of singles, Hirano still comes out on top at the world and continental level, above Ito and Hayata, if we overlook the ITTF WTP/WT and WTT SCT/CT. Yet, folks now think Ito as the best simply because of her XD gold at Tokyo 2020.

hayata will never get the tittles ishikawa won, so overrated ugly style

zeio wrote: Tony, please refrain from using logic in this thread. You're to adhere to amberheard23's biased standard and cherry pick as much as possible to make the player you hate look as bad as possible, by lying first and if it gets exposed, moving the goal post.

Edited by ZApenholder - 06/30/2022 at 12:37pm

mykonos96 wrote: zeio wrote: In before amberheard23. To sum up: Qiu Dang, WR10 career high(6/2022), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED Wong Chun Ting, WR6 career high(2/2017), best penhold player outside CNT OVERRATED I bet amberheard23  is jackwong23

zeio wrote: ZApenholder wrote: You spent too much time watching TV - the amber heard trial lol I know Lin in person, so stop using a stupid example now of Lin and sit down You are totally missing the point. Stay out of this.

zeio wrote: Just go back to TTD. https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?27380-Where-are-all-the-old-forum-members&p=370632&viewfull=1#post370632 Zeio would flood the forum with translated China material - very good stuff I must say. I don't have time to transalte and Zeio did many big favours. Where have these guys move on to, maybe I should join them. TTD is boring

ZApenholder wrote: But you also love to wage on typing wars and it is irritating to read them. Seems like 10 years ago and today, you are no different.

Still missing the point. You said TTD was boring without me, yet you're now here accusing me of flaming. Pot meets the kettle? Just go back there.

Still barking up the wrong tree. I couldn't care less about your friendship with Lin, but get to know who jackwong23 is if you haven't already. He's been a chronic liar and flamer with multiple sock puppet accounts.

The way you jumped the gun at me for what you think as badmouthing LYJ without being in the loop is just immature in my eyes as well, for crying out loud.

Edited by zeio - 07/01/2022 at 12:01pm

jackwong23 wrote: ZApenholder wrote: zeio wrote: ZApenholder wrote: But you also love to wage on typing wars and it is irritating to read them. Seems like 10 years ago and today, you are no different. Still missing the point. You said TTD was boring without me, yet you're now here accusing me of flaming. Pot meets the kettle? Just go back there. I missed your valid post, but then I saw your stupid arguments with mods and cry baby attitudes. Your arguments every where with ever one just looks like a small child trying to seek attention. I thought after few years, you would have matured some what. Back then I really thought you were a teenage kid, today you still seem like one. Any ways, I'm not here to stir nonsense, so find someone else to argue with. If you want to talk about Lin, meet me in Taipei and we can see go see him in person. Zeio is a 60 year old fart but behaves like an  immature teenager.

yes, you are one to speak of this.  Don't make me laugh.

Is this a thread dedicated to Qiu Dang ?