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Ray
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Posted: 12/18/2019 at 1:56am |
Yasaka Rakza Z (47-52°) and Rakza Z Extra Hard (52-57°) rubbers are coming out in 2020! Both rubbers are made in Germany.
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Skynet
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Do you intend to test them? Also do you know if there are several versions of each one (as in 47, 50 and 52° for the Z)? Just asking because 5° seems like a rather large variance in sponge hardness for a single rubber...or has Yasaka not yet finally decided on the final hardness degrees?
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vik2000
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There's no way they will state a range of hardness for a single rubber.
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Hozuki
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I think we will soon see more really hard rubbers from ESN, they have recently produced some sponges that still retain good elasticity despite the hardness
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yogi_bear
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I have always said this before that rubbers are going beyond the 50 degree hardness level for the modern game.
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Mickael
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And 52 grams and above!
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Nittaku Acoustic Carbon FL
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mykonos96
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I wonder if they will make harder sponge short pips
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1dennistt
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I think it is standard practice for Yasaka rubber,
Rakza X - 45-50 degrees Rakza 9 - 40-45 degrees Rakza 7 - 45-50 degrees Mark V - 40-45 degrees You can look at this website: |
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Donic Waldner World Champion 1989 ZLC (Inner), Donic BlueStorm Pro (Red) Max, ????? (Black) 1.8 mm)
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Compare Yasaka Rakza
Yasaka Rakza Z 47-52 degrees Speed: 11 Spin: 14+ Control: 9 Yasaka Rakza Z Extra Hard 52-57 degrees Speed: 11 Spin: 14+ Control: 9 |
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Kolev
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I don't quite understand what 47-52 and 52-57 degrees means. Is it an approximate value?
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Xiuxiusue2018
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it is not just a range. it depends the thickness. the max has the highest.
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jk92
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According to this, it has a sticky topsheet!
Unboxing in Japanese Edited by jk92 - 03/03/2020 at 8:06am |
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AndySmith
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That unboxing video shows the protection sheet. Definitely sticky!
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This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated.
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slevin
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any reviews? Comparison with other Yasaka Chinese-like rubbers (Shining / Rising dragon)? Comparison with other ESN tacky rubbers (Tibhar Hybrid K1, etc)? Comparison with Dignics 09C?
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yogi_bear
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my rakza z and z hard rubers are still stuck in the courier due to covid...
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ericd937
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Also interested in any comparisons vs boosted Hurricane 3 or 3 Neo.
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jpenmaster
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Its closer to Dignics 09C than other Chinese hybrids. Has just a little more tack than D09C. The hard version has an orange sponge and feels harder than D09C. Both versions are also heavier than D09C . I got my sheets from Japan about a month ago
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Roger Stillabower
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Did you get the max. or 2mm. ?
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ericd937
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How does Rakza Z (normal) compare with something like Hurricane 3 provincial 39 degrees?
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jpenmaster
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I can't really answer that cause I'm not an H3 player. I have tried H3 a few times but it doesn't suit my game since I've always played with Japanese type rubbers. What I do notice is the topsheet of RZ is not as sticky and the sponge is more elastic. I think Chinese rubber players would prefer the Extra Hard version. The Extra Hard feels much harder and has a very fine pore sponge.
Edited by jpenmaster - 05/04/2020 at 10:33am |
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jpenmaster
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The only tacky topsheet rubbers with japanese/euro sponges I've tried is Rakza Z, Dignics 09C , Joola Golden Tango PS , Donic Bluegrip and Spinart(Not very tacky). Rakza Z fits in between Dignics 09C and GTPS. I don't boost but I would bet the RZ Extra Hard boosted would be awesome.
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Rakza Z Extra Hard Max on Lin Gaoyuan ALC
Very spinny but felt MUTED when playing with the FH compared to HURRICANE 3 (Played with H3 since 2009) -opening loop felt effortless Need to play with it more. Counter looping, definitely can’t compete with Hurricane 3. Top end speed h3 > rakza Z extra hard Brb |
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yogi_bear
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Hurricane 3 is still more tacky than Rakza Z regular, akso h3 is still a tad harder.
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Has anyone played ever played with rakza z and yasaka rising dragon, to give us a comparison between those two?
Also has anyone ever played rakza z with booster? I ve been playing with t05 for a really long time and I just switched to rakza z unboosted to my forehand to give it a chance, and it's not that bad. It s just a little slower than tenergy even if you use full power from your body and more unforgiving.
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