Relative speed of Timo Boll Spirit

To my humble understanding, "faster than" is a relation that is asymmetric, nonreflexive, and transitive. It induces a Scott domain (an algebraic bounded-complete consistent partial order), I would conjure, and probably even a complete lattice.

I have both Viscaria and Timo Boll Spirit. I use Hurricane 3  National BS on both sides.the answer in terms of speed is that it's just a little faster than Viscaria. Marginally faster. I put Hurricane 3 bc I wanted the control it brings. I can play with either Viscaria, if I want more control or TBS, if I want a tad faster. But theres little time required to adapt. Frankly idk which setup I like better. They are both so similar. I tend to prefer heavier Viscarias. I have a 83 grams one and I don't like it.

YoAss wrote: To my humble understanding, "faster than" is a relation that is asymmetric, nonreflexive, and transitive. It induces a Scott domain (an algebraic bounded-complete consistent partial order), I would conjure, and probably even a complete lattice. Given that the TBS is placed in that (conceptually) complete domain with a relative ordering putting it *very close* to Vis and TB ALC, that comparison to TBALC/Vis gives you a pretty good grasp on where things stand wrt to the "faster" relation in that domain, therefore.

During my many years of inverted play, I went from a Keyshot, to a Spirit, and finally to a 91 gram Viscaria, using Tenergy 64 on the Spirit and the Viscaria. I enjoyed the Viscaria the most, as I thought that it had the best balance of speed and control. I keep that blade in my bag to serve to players who am coaching to return a variety of serves.

In an authorized dealer store of Butterfly, I once was offered the last remaining stock of TBS (not the black butterfly tag but newer silver tag version) since majority of customers prefer Viscaria and TB-ALC (so the store owner wanted to get rid of that last stock of TBS).   I used to own TBS and MMaze long time ago (the black tag version) so I think I know the feeling of those blades.

To my surprise, that old stock of TBS felt very mushy and rather flexible.   Not the crisp and rather stiff composite blade that I used to know.  I don't know if it's an exception, but if it is like that, then it is definitely slower in all aspects compared to Viscaria and TB-ALC.

Edited by doraemon - 08/25/2023 at 2:56am

AMonteiro wrote: BriDav12 wrote: I am moving away from DHS 301 with 09C (FH) and Vega Europe. It is my favorite setup all time (of course I've had many lovers LOL), but it is just a a shade fast for my intermediate level (only just though). Would a TBS with the same 09C/ VE setup get me where I want to go? How is it's pace relative to the inner ZLC blades (IF, Apolonia, Harimoto, etc). I ask because I'm also considering going back to Apolonia, which is a bit slower to H301; however, I'd prefer a more crisp KOTO blade Cheers and thanks in advance  If you are moving away from 301 because is a shade fast so TBS would be a bad move because It is faster than 301. If you like koto crisper feeling you should consider Donic True Carbon Inner, so you keep that feeling and add a bit more control compared to DHS 301.

i I apologize. I am old and didn't realize that people replied (thank you you BTW). I quit the 301 but only temporarily. It's just a shade quick for me on tough, reactive shots; however, the 301 is bear the top of my all time list. 

thank you for your feedback. I'm really wondering if the theory about differences with TBS/Visc/TB ALC are more about weight than particular "species" is true. 

thank you for taking the time. This is exactly what I'm hoping for 

any thoughts on the Xiom Feel AX?

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