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Request Pongster94 for refund of paddle and money |
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Baal
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Soundof88 did not use PayPal gift option and was protected. Please follow his example!
Pongster94, have you shipped blades to fatt and KLH? Or do we need to escalate?
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Baal
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Me too. It is how i do every PayPal transaction.
We've done some more digging on Pongster. There is a long pattern of strangeness. He is not just a table tennis enthusiast. He was also into Airsoft at one point On one of their forums, nobody wanted to do business with him either. Still, I reserve some small hope that he is not malicious, just clueless. KLH says he has received what MAY be a legit tracking number. And pongster did contact me when his first transaction was going badly. On the other hand I tend to be far too trusting. Limjo has been burned a couple of times on this forum, so he tends in the other direction. After this is resolved, it may be useful for pongster94 to buy and sell on ebay, or someplace else, but not here. |
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limjo
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Yeaah, I admit almost got scammed paying as gift twice but luckily got my money back he.he.he. First (was new at that time) is from a Hongkong guy, after payment he asked if he could send me the blade after a month as he is busy in a tournament. Since he has got pending deals, was quick to refund me when I threatened to expose him in MYTT.
Second I got my money back thru the help of premier member the_theologian (special mention) who happened to know the scammer and persuaded him to give our money back (we're a lot including senior members as the scammer offered dirt cheap prices for non existing blades but copied internet pics). That is why I learned my lesson and am now done with paying paypal as gift to newbies and those with no solid feedback. |
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Baal
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The List of Known Scammers thread makes interesting reading.
By the way, scammers and other people who are banned should know that moderators at the three main English language TT forums are all friends, and we communicate frequently. In buy and sell issues especially, gigant, haggisv, and i often compare data. |
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Pongster94
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I sent it all out ask them not me
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Magic_M
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The more I read these posts the more I think, he isn`t a typical scammer. He seems to be totally crazy (sorry Pongster94, but that`s what I am feeling) and maybe he acts without thinking about this before.
If I would have such a bad start, I would apologise and change my behaviour immediately. But it seems that you still think, that you acted in the right way and all others here are against you and attack you without any reason.
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Baal
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Yep. Not quite in the same mold as some of the more notorious scammers. But clearly not someone whio is able to make a deal, any deal, wihout problems. Not someone who lives in a reality-based realm in my estimation from reading his posts, and even speaking to him once on the phone.
I do not as yet have confidence KLH or fatt will get their blades. Limjo raises salient issues. Pongster should have mailed a blade a long time ago. Also there are things he writes in this thread that simply dont square with reality. I should add that several days ago he was making an offer for a blade with Tibike. That pissed me off since he was already having PayPal problems. I sent a PM asking wnat the hell he was thinking. At that point he said his PayPal issue was solved, but apparently not solved enough. All in al., crazy behavior.
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Baal
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I should point out that about one year ago 11/2015 (five years after liulin lost patience with him) I received several complaints that shay2be had sold "new" blades that had glue residue on them when they arrived to the buyer. Not the biggest problem in the world, and I never considered banning him for even a second, but "like new" is not the same as "new", and I wouldn't call this the "best" behavior. I have to say that Pongster worries me a lot more than shay2be ever did, especially since he's not 15, and his problems go beyond indecisiveness. |
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"I have to say that Pongster worries me a lot more than shay2be ever did, especially since he's not 15, and his problems go beyond indecisiveness." Call me Radical, but my money's on Pongster :))) Cmon man show me your spine, stand up and fight... |
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Pongster94
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Baal I can send money and I had enough so enough with your bashing. I already sent everything out so please for everyone's sake everyone just sit back and chill out
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Pongster94
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So Klhfan after the proof of tracking you're still quiet eh? Love how a couple people are actually having faith in me especially fatt. Why no reply man I gave you tracking they want to hear it from you not me
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BRS
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... to be continued on Tuesday when the Postman rings twice.
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KLHfans
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Hi pongster94
I just check and see my tracking as well. I am looking forward to see the blade next week. Thank you for your cooperation. Klhfans Edited by KLHfans - 12/31/2016 at 5:22pm |
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jt99sf
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I guess common courtesy doesn't exists anymore, esp when you created the drama.
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limjo
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1. As I mentioned "you seemed to have short memory" but the main reason you are forced to ship the blades IMO is quoted below:
2. Why should Fatt & KLH keep on bashing and exposing you when they have not received their blade yet, they run the risk of losing their blades if they are not diplomatic with you. 3. I remember the time when I almost got scammed the second time, the_theologian managed to convince the US scammer to return the money, but on the ist batch of repayment I was not included. I informed the_theologian and sent PM to the scammer and said these things: a. We are just human and sometimes we commit mistake b. A few hundred $ is not worth to ruin your reputation c. If you refund the money, you would be welcomed back to MYTT community. Why do you think I said these things to a scammer, because I want him to FEEL GOOD SO HE WILL REFUND MY MONEY AND IT WORKED, I GOT MY MONEY BACK !!! Baal must have been wondering (before I got my money) why I am symphatizing with the scammer and must have thought I could be a potential scammer too. Well, I have to do what I have to do, to get my money back. Now you are bragging for sending Fatt & KLH blades when all of these problems you created yourself. |
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Pongster94
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Stop saying I didn't send them then....
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Pongster94
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See the problem is others who aren't involved. Fatt is one of few supporting me as I said
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limjo
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Now you are bragging for sending Fatt & KLH blades when all of these problems you created yourself. [/QUOTE] I already acknowledge you ship something but remains to be confirmed by Fatt & KLH. If confirmed you can send me pics of your axx (for my eyes only) and will kiss it (censored), okay? Edited by limjo - 12/31/2016 at 9:07pm |
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Pongster94
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They both have confirmed please read what they said
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limjo
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They both agreed they received tracking nos. but who knows whether the package actually contains the blades they expect or Walmart blades. You seem to be silent on my proposition.......
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Baal
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Pongster. I will be convinced when I hear from them that blades have arrived. I believe you also need to send KLH 45 USD unless you shipped him the ZJK T5000.
Right now you need to convince me that you have done the right thing. |
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Baal
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Ok. It seems Pongster has clearly shipped blades to fatt and KLH.
GOOD! I am not sure if KLH will be getting his Korbel or the ZJK. If it is the Korbel, then Pongster also needs to refund him 45 USD. Please let me know. For now, communications remain open. |
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KLHfans
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Baal
Pongster94 is shipping the zjk t5000. Thx for the follow up Klhfans |
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Pongster94
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Once they do get it I expect my credit and no that doesn't mean I'm back to perfect I just need to make sure I follow through with deals better and pay on time vs waiting so no I won't take that got granted at least.
Btw it's a new year so happy new years and hopes to me getting better at online sales or trades |
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Baal
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Pongster, you don't get credit for doing what you said you were going to do on the MyTT For Sale section. That is what is expected of everyone, it is the price of admission so to speak. The fact that you even wrote that sentence is not a particularly good sign. I am less convinced than fatt about your good intentions.
I still very much doubt that many people will want to deal with you after this, and they do so at their own risk, but I am not banning you (and I expect some heat for not banning you). Know that I will be watching you like a hawk and at the first sign of anything even remotely suspicious you are history. |
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Baal
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And for the love of god, people, please be careful about using paypal gift option!!!!!!
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Pongster94
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No I said I wouldn't take this for granted so read the context before blowing up. And btw maybe it's Karama but I got my whole bag stolen at a college open gym event or club . So more to laugh at me. I have nothing and I'm not selling my friends blade which he offered to give me. Well I'll still need things from time to time. If they don't want to sell sure I'll take that then but it's worth trying and asking. I won't have much if nothing to sell anyways besides freebies or tournament goodies that's it, but I don't have a tournament like that for awhile until mayish
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KLHfans
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Pongster94
I get the blade today finally. Thank you for your cooperation and Baal, this deal is official done and no more issue. Thank you everyone and have a happy new year. Klhfans |
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Antuan
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Ohhh i´m glad!!
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Pongster94
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I told you guys sheesh I know I was alittle sketchy but I do tend to go through with it
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