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IAmI 
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 Posted: 10/15/2008 at 9:41am |
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In my opinion MaLin #2 is a side spin serve. Wang returns with a top spin with some good amount of side spin in it. The side spin being not necessarily to trick the opponent but to compensate for the sidespin that was already on the ball from Ma.
The serve, in effect, is very similar to one of the WLQ's favourite serves (jee, it's too hard to describe which one I have in mind, but I love it). Just the action looks totally different as they use different grips.
shij421, you kick some pretty serious a$$ with these gifs, thanks!
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pingpangfan
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Posted: 02/05/2009 at 9:20am |
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bokett great!
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I love Pingpong
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MANOLETE
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bien por Juanito el Zhiwen, trincando de Joola
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Gracias a todos desde Spain.
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blueflyer_01
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Posted: 05/11/2009 at 1:51pm |
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thanks so much shij421 that is great,
 
but i couldn't see after 7
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redferrari
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Posted: 10/12/2009 at 1:05pm |
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Fabulous & Fantabulous!!!
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stiltt
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Posted: 10/30/2009 at 4:13pm |
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the gifs are gone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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answlcjf
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729 FX
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Posted: 11/03/2009 at 10:25pm |
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Yes, going, going gone.
But I must say this, the gif.s are informative.
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stiltt
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Posted: 11/04/2009 at 1:36am |
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Actually I have a backup of that 53 MB page somewhere in my archives (I did not want to load all those 53MB each time I wanted to study a serve). I could host the gifs on my online space and edit all the posts (no change in what we see...). what do you think shij?
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stiltt
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Posted: 11/04/2009 at 2:17am |
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What the heck? I did it.
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jpenlover
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Posted: 06/23/2010 at 11:54am |
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This is great! Thanks for the effort. I can finally see how Ma Lin flip the ball.
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Posted: 09/09/2010 at 7:24am |
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omg AWESOME!!!!!!! I love #9! I love em all!!!!
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EZRO
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Posted: 10/19/2010 at 9:20am |
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Nice thanks :D I can play around and experiment my service, I love the #14 it has a short spin, almost a dead ball, good for players who love to drive after a short spin serve, if not the ball will go long and you can play the next ball for offensive move :D
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The Older I get, The better I was.
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qynthnghm
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Posted: 11/26/2010 at 6:18am |
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Stared at these for a while at work. Simply awesome and informative. I would particularly love to see some Zhang Jike slow-mo serves.
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kitzter
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Posted: 03/29/2011 at 9:32pm |
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more gif pls
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BTY MPS/T05/Tibhar Grass Dtecs & SUPERBLOCK OxMy feedback
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Timo Boll2
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Aren't these enough for you? If you master these serves, you will have no problem beating opponents much better than you. You know what they say, if your serve is powerful and is good placed, you've almost won the point.
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Posted: 02/02/2012 at 11:37am |
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Very informative. Thanks for posting these.
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gweipwu
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Thanks Fatt, appreciated!
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joshuadn11
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Posted: 01/14/2015 at 3:56pm |
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Really helpful GIFs once again.
Thanks for the post!
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Leftyy
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Posted: 03/15/2015 at 4:48pm |
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Thanks for the gifs, anyone got some more?
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shinimai
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I don't know if you guys notice this, but when top players serve short, they move their paddle in a U shape (especially xu xin), meaning they draw back the bat right after contact with the ball. I've also noticed that their short serves' first bounce is usually near the edge of the table (which is usually for longer serves).
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chronos
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Posted: 10/08/2016 at 11:06pm |
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Man classic post from shij - good forum memories right there!
shinimai you're right, if you can read the first bounce you'll know a lot about the depth of the serve you're facing, a short first bounce is going to be very short. At my level at least, a short serve better have a good bit of underspin or it's probably dead and can be blasted at will anywhere - super short topspin serves are rare - and the underspin is easy to spot. If you're serving short keep it low or pay the price. Among the pros, "half long" serves that bounce twice or are otherwise close to the edge will have a first bounce closer to the servers end line but become harder to attack. A weak opening against a half-long ball creates an opportunity: an attackable ball at an ideally predictable location that can be put away.
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emihet
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Posted: 03/11/2018 at 9:12pm |
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thanks
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stiltt
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Posted: 11/02/2019 at 11:16am |
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this is an old thread. The gifs are still there but a bandwidth and hosting issue forced the disconnection. To those who can host those gifs, let us know if you want to get them back up.
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ybok
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Posted: 08/31/2020 at 5:21pm |
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Is the link still available for these GIFs?
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ybok
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Is a Google Drive sharable folder OK for hosting? https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HKF3y9cnUCzyKUuK-cLnrUJAuu00sLQQ?usp=sharing
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stiltt
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Posted: 09/10/2020 at 8:30pm |
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For those interested, just for forum historical purposes, the gifs are there all packed in that file.
For the little story, shij421 was...oh yes, I said it already :)
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stiltt
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Posted: 03/22/2023 at 6:03am |
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The gifs are back under the form of links, somehow google drive will prevent to display the link as a forum picture or I am doing something wrong.
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