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    Posted: 04/12/2013 at 11:12am
Can someone confirm the composition of the old (70s-80s) Stiga Offensive Wood series for me, please?

I've always assumed it's: Walnut – Ayous (red) – Ayous (core) – Ayous (red) – Walnut



This is obviously different than newer models of Stiga's "Offensive Classic" series, which has spruce in it. I believe they've gone to dyed Koto as outer ply instead of walnut, but I'm not entirely sure on that one. It's certainly not walnut anymore.
 
 
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Actually, it's dyed koto - spruce - ayous before changing to limba. Yours is different. Koto - ayous - kiri etc.
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Top layer should be american walnut/just walnut. The  second layer is colorized Samba (Limba?), not its natural color, or could be Padouk which has a red color but is hardwood (as quoted by Mr. Robert Palatinus's email/pms to me awhile back). I had received some wood plies from Mr. R.P. just before last xmas for me to touch up/repair my Older OC Evolution Legend which most probably has the same wood construction/plies as this OC in your pix.
I know for sure that the red-dyed layer was kinda hard to be chipped/sanded off as it was kinda powdery....


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Hey Pondus, maybe I can help. Wink

1. version (1975 - 1979): 
composition: nut - red dyed limba - ayous - red dyed limba - nut
on the side of the handle you find a serial number: one letter and two numbers.
The letter shows the year of production (1975 = A, .... , 1979 = E)
and the numbers show the production week.
So this blade is produced at the end (last week) of 1976



2. version (1980 - 1982):
composition: nut - paduk - ayous - paduk - nut
on the side of the handle you find a serial number: (F - H)
The second veneer looks a bit darker, compared to the first version
Here you can see a (bad) picture of a blade from 1980 (F10)



3. version (1982 - ?):
composition: nut - spruce - ayous - spruce - nut
White imprint on the blade: "stiga offensive"

4. version:
composition: dyed koto - spruce - ayous - spruce - dyed koto
white imprint on the blade: "stiga offensive"



5. version:
composition: dyed koto - spruce - ayous - spruce - dyed koto
black imprint: "Offensive Classic"


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You're the MAN, Magic_M - thank you. Smile
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The "Evolution Offensive" series has "Nußbaum" outer plies, which I assume is hazelnut, perhaps... I have three of these blades and many "Offensive Wood" ('75-'79), and they certainly don't look alike (the outer plies, that is). 
So is it fair to guess that the outer plies are: 

"Offensive Wood" ('75-'79) = Walnut 

"Evolution Offensive" = Hazelnut


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Nußbaum refers both to hazelnut and walnut.
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Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

The "Evolution Offensive" series ....... I have three of these blades and many "Offensive Wood" ('75-'79)

Nice to hear Pondus. A Bengtsson Offensiv Evolution is still missing in my collection, also the "stiga offensive" Stellan Bengtsson (3. version) and some more of these (Bengtsson) "double-lenses"..
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Unfortunately, I don't have that many Stellan Bengtsson blades, my friend... I primarily go for "conic" handle blades (Kjell Johanssson, Erik Lindh, and "Champ" in Stiga blades), and then Hans Alsér after that.
Off the top of my head (without looking into it), I think I only have the following Stellan Bengtsson blades…

– Stellan Bengtsson DynaPower
– Stellan Bengtsson Allround Wood
– Stellan Bengtsson Anniversary Wood (B Series)
– Stellan Bengtsson Offensive Wood ('75-'79)

As far as "Evolution Offensive" I have 2 'Erik Lindh' (Conic) and 1 'Legend' (Flare). The only 3rd generation Offensive Wood (with the white lettering and dyed koto outer plies) I have is 'Hans Alsér'.

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Maybe that could be one more trade, because I have a new (unplayed) Johansson Anniversary (also B-series).
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[QUOTE=Magic_M]Hey Pondus, maybe I can help. Wink

1. version (1975 - 1979): 
composition: nut - red dyed limba - ayous - red dyed limba - nut
on the side of the handle you find a serial number: one letter and two numbers.
The letter shows the year of production (1975 = A, .... , 1979 = E)
and the numbers show the production week.
So this blade is produced at the end (last week) of 1976



Yes this is the right composition of that blade!
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Another picture of the different outer veneers of the Stiga Offensiv Wood blades.
From left to right: B-series, D-series (both = first version), F-series and Offensiv Classic.



The difference between the B- and D-series is very small (nearly zero), 
F-series must be an other kind of nut and Offensiv Classic is dyed koto as outer veneer.
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hi exchange clipper utc+johansson allround for dynapower bengtsson  photo via email [email protected]
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Magic_m what do you call that st handle with a diff design on the rightmost part?
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@ Erik 1974:
You should have a look on the title of the thread, before you post your trading-offers in several threads.

In this thread we are talking about the old Stiga Offensiv Wood plies.
Your trading-offer has really NOTHING to do with this thread.

Normally, you should know, where you can post your offer:
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=16
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@ yogi_bear:

I don't know the right (exact) translation for this kind of handle.
In german language this handle has a "Daumenschliff". Possible translation should be "thumbs-cut".

You will find this thumbs-cut on all straight (Stellan Bengtsson) handles
from the later series (end of 80's / beginning of the 90's). Before this time the Bengtsson blades had a normal ST handle.
In my collection-thread you will find several blade from both kinds of handle.
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69217&PN=2&title=i-am-proud-to-present
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