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    Posted: 11/03/2011 at 7:51pm
I joined wanting to know what I was missing. Actually nothing. The most hard to navigate and understand would be a better description.  If you decided to make a forum and make it as user unfriendly as possible, you would have come up with About.com. As for being 'best forum on the planet'  IMO that changes regularly.
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Don't know about being the "best on the planet"... "Sleepiest", yeah.  Sometimes there's only one new post in three hours or more... Sleepy
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They use to be very good group until the regulars started pissed each other off competing the "who is the expert" title. Most beginner post question will not get any respond for days or have ear full of insults before they getting some answer, if any.

Why? Because no one want to risk their "expertise" to have other resident "expert" jump on them. So you have this "dumb bird fly first" thing going. Eventually, most people got tired and move on and forum members go down with little traffic.

In the case of Marco, I don't think he got kicked off. Most likely he "volunteer" to go away or makes his account got suspended.
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Originally posted by SeeReed SeeReed wrote:



In the case of Marco, I don't think he got kicked off. Most likely he "volunteer" to go away or makes his account got suspended.


Actually, I read all the posts leading to Marco's suspension... He was arguing with a member for a while, and it got so heated Greg banned him permanently.
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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

Originally posted by SeeReed SeeReed wrote:



In the case of Marco, I don't think he got kicked off. Most likely he "volunteer" to go away or makes his account got suspended.


Actually, I read all the posts leading to Marco's suspension... He was arguing with a member for a while, and it got so heated Greg banned him permanently.


Knowing his posting style. That is why I said "he makes his account got suspended". Sometime it's easier to have someone else find the steps for you.

 
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Originally posted by SeeReed SeeReed wrote:


Knowing his posting style. That is why I said "he makes his account got suspended". Sometime it's easier to have someone else find the steps for you.

 


Believe me, I KNOW he was stunned when it happened.  He did not expect it at all, much less permanently.








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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

Originally posted by SeeReed SeeReed wrote:



In the case of Marco, I don't think he got kicked off. Most likely he "volunteer" to go away or makes his account got suspended.


Actually, I read all the posts leading to Marco's suspension... He was arguing with a member for a while, and it got so heated Greg banned him permanently.


No.  He said something that pretty much begged for legal action of some kind from somebody. It wasn't about the argument being heated.  It was about stepping over a line that ought not be stepped over.


Edited by wturber - 11/06/2011 at 9:19pm
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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

Originally posted by SeeReed SeeReed wrote:


Knowing his posting style. That is why I said "he makes his account got suspended". Sometime it's easier to have someone else find the steps for you.
 


Believe me, I KNOW he was stunned when it happened.  He did not expect it at all, much less permanently.



If he was stunned, then that is just an example of how sometimes Marco just doesn't get how outlandish some of the things he says really are.  I wasn't stunned at all.  I kinda thought he left Gregg little choice.
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I only go there rarely.... like when I hear about yet another flame war. I have a friend who loves that forum but I don't know if I'll ever actually join due to hearing about how thing's seem to be there...
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Every forum has it particular peculiarities, personalities and so forth.  About.com is no different.  It has good and bad points.  The claim made by Donn that it was the best forum was a facetious jest.
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Poor APW46 is getting a well-deserved flogging at About.com that I warned him about:

"Piggy, you have a lot of opinions.  Have you ever done anything in the sport?  Did you win a gold medal because you like kangaroos.  Do you take photos of koala bears? Is there a difference between watching a tournament and playing in it.  Do you have more knowledge than an Olympian because you watched the olympics on TV?"

-Garbage Man


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Andy, you deserve it for stirring the hornet's nest, lol...

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=150&nav=messages&webtag=ab-tabletennis&tid=33029









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Yes, but the bad behavior by two members is being pointed out for what it is.

This is why when someone else said that that forum was the most adult, I had to point out that while generally good, the forum certainly has its bad moments.

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Its letting itself down at the moment. I am surprised at S. O'Neil having a go at my forum name, there was just no need for that, and they all seem To suck up to him, apart from the obvious exceptions. 
Its not as If I actually challenged anyone, I just put my view forward as to what is causing the Chinese domination to have gotten worse.
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Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

Yes, but the bad behavior by two members is being pointed out for what it is.



Except these "two" are not ordinary members of that forum, Jay.  You are taking about the undisputed No. 1, and arguably the No. 2 figure (the undisputed #1 apprentice of the undisputed No. 1 figure).  They will NEVER get any warning from the mods for their childish behavior.  Never had, never will.  "Pointed out" is such a joke.  They are bullies and undisputed "pack leaders" of that forum. 

Greg is totally powerless against them, but he's free to prove me wrong anytime.








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Why are we talking about other forum? 
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Originally posted by SeeReed SeeReed wrote:

Why are we talking about other forum? 


Please, take a look at the title of this thread, SeeReed... Feel free of stay out of the discussion. 

Freedom of speech?  Wink


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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

Poor APW46 is getting a well-deserved flogging at About.com that I warned him about:

"Piggy, you have a lot of opinions.  Have you ever done anything in the sport?  Did you win a gold medal because you like kangaroos.  Do you take photos of koala bears? Is there a difference between watching a tournament and playing in it.  Do you have more knowledge than an Olympian because you watched the olympics on TV?"

-Garbage Man


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Andy, you deserve it for stirring the hornet's nest, lol...

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=150&nav=messages&webtag=ab-tabletennis&tid=33029




That place sounds like a fever swamp.


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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

Except these "two" are not ordinary members of that forum, Jay.  You are taking about the undisputed No. 1, and arguably the No. 2 figure (the undisputed #1 apprentice of the undisputed No. 1 figure). 
 
Actually, as a long time member of the About forum, I'd be willing to dispute, what you consider undisputed  :o)
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What is undisputed is not open to be disputed. 
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 ... unless the undisputed isn't really undisputed.

Beginning of discussion ...


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Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

 ... unless the undisputed isn't really undisputed.

Beginning of discussion ...


I am not sure which part of "undisputed" facts you wish to discuss, Vic... That SPO is not their undisputed No. 1 poster in terms of... everything?  That Tahl is not Sean's undisputed No. 1 disciple? 
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I am not sure which part of "undisputed" facts you wish to discuss, Vic... That SPO is not their undisputed No. 1 poster in terms of... everything?  That Tahl is not Sean's undisputed No. 1 disciple? 
 
The former ... plus the statement that Tahl is "arguably the No. 2 figure" ... plus the statement that they are "undisputed pack leaders" on the forum
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Sorry Vic, not interested... At all.  As I said, they are undisputed facts.  Anyone who spent as much time as you did on that forum knows.  I will not continue this discussion with you about SPO or the Garbage Man.

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No problem at all, I respect your will not to discuss it.
 
Also, we're both entitled to having our own opinions, regarless of how we see the "facts" and how much time we spend on that forum :o)
 


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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:


I am not sure which part of "undisputed" facts you wish to discuss, Vic... That SPO is not their undisputed No. 1 poster in terms of... everything?  That Tahl is not Sean's undisputed No. 1 disciple? 


I would like to have disciples.
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I would like to have disciples.


You can have pupils, but can't call them disciples until they have won numerous Paralympics medals, and ranked No. 1 or 2 in the world in their category.  Are you worthy?
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I don't know.  Check me thread on thought for the day.  I believe I am sufficiently mysterious.  That plus my forum name is that of a Canaanite fertility god.
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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

Yes, but the bad behavior by two members is being pointed out for what it is.



Except these "two" are not ordinary members of that forum, Jay.  You are taking about the undisputed No. 1, and arguably the No. 2 figure (the undisputed #1 apprentice of the undisputed No. 1 figure).  They will NEVER get any warning from the mods for their childish behavior.  Never had, never will.  "Pointed out" is such a joke.  They are bullies and undisputed "pack leaders" of that forum. 

Greg is totally powerless against them, but he's free to prove me wrong anytime.



Sean is challenged and disagreed with regularly and generally takes it in stride.  If he is No.1, it isn't a particularly powerful No. 1.  His playing with Wiggy's name along the sarcasm is a bit unusual - especially considering that he doesn't know Wiggy.  My observation is that he usually reserves that kind of stuff for when he becomes exasperated with someone or he has a long history with that person.  I observe that many otherwise reasonable people will do that as well.  But I'm afraid he jumped the gun with Wiggy and he's dug his heels in on this one (IMO) to his own detriment.

I'd say that a large portion of the forum doesn't take the person you position as No. 2 seriously at all.  As far as influence, he's not No. 2 at all. In fact, quite a few forum members raked him over the coals pretty good recently for his poor behavior in a match.  He also disagrees with Sean frequently.




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