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I thought I saw Hirano using Viscaria blade? Definitely not Clipper anymore.   

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Hi,

What is the status of Liu Shiwen's equipment sponsorship?  Still using Butterfly equipment but not officially associated with a manufacturer?

Thanks,

Butterfly dropped her once she switched to Hurricane 3 on her backhand, but she was still using the custom inner ZLC Viscaria. Now it looks like she's using Dignics 05 on her backhand, I'm sure Butterfly will put her back on their website ASAP, especially now that she's just won the WTTC. Bigger question for me is when does Miu Hirano's contract with Stiga run out, now that she's using all Butterfly equipment.
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i must be blind. Couldve sworn that I did not see any serial during the entire TV broadcast
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Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

I thought I saw Hirano using Viscaria blade? Definitely not Clipper anymore.   

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Hi,

What is the status of Liu Shiwen's equipment sponsorship?  Still using Butterfly equipment but not officially associated with a manufacturer?

Thanks,

Butterfly dropped her once she switched to Hurricane 3 on her backhand, but she was still using the custom inner ZLC Viscaria. Now it looks like she's using Dignics 05 on her backhand, I'm sure Butterfly will put her back on their website ASAP, especially now that she's just won the WTTC. Bigger question for me is when does Miu Hirano's contract with Stiga run out, now that she's using all Butterfly equipment.

She is still under contract with Stiga though, appearing in their catalogs and other advertising material. She hasn't used the clipper wood in months, so she must still be in agreement with them (for now). As an aside, Butterfly must be dying to say that Dignics 05 is the rubber of world champions after Liu Shiwen won this weekend.
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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Been doing a lot of research on what pips Sun Mingyang has been using. A few things I've read online appear to believe that it's Spectol, however I looked for recent images of her of decent quality and came upon this photo from the Marvelous 12...



A few things of note:

1) She is using "cooked" pips and not raw, based on horizontal pip alignment. 

2) The pattern of the pips near the bottom is asymmetrical. 

The photo is of high enough quality to count the pips from the end of the blade. It's 4 from the right edge, and 9/10 from the left edge. There is also a one pip gap between the middle of the rubber sheet and the ends. 

What does this lead us to? 



It's clearly VO 102. I think Mu Zi also switched to this but I haven't been able to obtain good enough photos to be certain.

I think 102 is too spinny to use it in BH .I have seen pips with similar looks , coming from spectol 102 is too diffrent
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Is ma long using hurricane 3 national orange sponge 37 hardness on backhand?
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In a WTTC match close angle to Matias Falck blade seemed that he was using some kind of alc blade with yasaka extra offensive handle. Do you notice that too?
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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

I thought I saw Hirano using Viscaria blade? Definitely not Clipper anymore.   

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Hi,

What is the status of Liu Shiwen's equipment sponsorship?  Still using Butterfly equipment but not officially associated with a manufacturer?

Thanks,

Butterfly dropped her once she switched to Hurricane 3 on her backhand, but she was still using the custom inner ZLC Viscaria. Now it looks like she's using Dignics 05 on her backhand, I'm sure Butterfly will put her back on their website ASAP, especially now that she's just won the WTTC. Bigger question for me is when does Miu Hirano's contract with Stiga run out, now that she's using all Butterfly equipment.

She is still under contract with Stiga though, appearing in their catalogs and other advertising material. She hasn't used the clipper wood in months, so she must still be in agreement with them (for now). As an aside, Butterfly must be dying to say that Dignics 05 is the rubber of world champions after Liu Shiwen won this weekend.

Definitely using Viscaria + Tenergy both sides. Most likely both her and Stiga waiting for her contract to run out before removing her from marketing... My bet would be on her signing for BTY soon though. 
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Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

his blade had a serial number



I wonder why in MD semi a shot of ML's blade roughly shows his name (馬龍) in Chinese rather than the usual serial. 


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Very mystirious. If you look at the carbon structure and the glue layer it is the same Blade.
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does harimoto plays dignics 05 on backhand or forehand?
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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

his blade had a serial number



I wonder why in MD semi a shot of ML's blade roughly shows his name (馬龍) in Chinese rather than the usual serial. 


Same blade. If you zoom in you can see the signature
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Originally posted by Giangt Giangt wrote:

Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

his blade had a serial number



I wonder why in MD semi a shot of ML's blade roughly shows his name (馬龍) in Chinese rather than the usual serial. 


Same blade. If you zoom in you can see the signature


The grain, dirt and scratch on both blades does seem identical which made it weirder. When I zoom in one clearly see normal W968 serial and one just the name of Ma Long in Chinese. Got another shot and close up on it. It is direct capture from Youtube video so no alteration is done. 






Edited by TurboZ - 05/03/2019 at 4:34am
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It is an optical illusion caused by perspective distortion. Because the racket is at a different angle, the telephoto lens has a foreshortening effect, which makes the digits of the serial number appear closer together.
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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Been doing a lot of research on what pips Sun Mingyang has been using. A few things I've read online appear to believe that it's Spectol, however I looked for recent images of her of decent quality and came upon this photo from the Marvelous 12...



A few things of note:

1) She is using "cooked" pips and not raw, based on horizontal pip alignment. 

2) The pattern of the pips near the bottom is asymmetrical. 

The photo is of high enough quality to count the pips from the end of the blade. It's 4 from the right edge, and 9/10 from the left edge. There is also a one pip gap between the middle of the rubber sheet and the ends. 

What does this lead us to? 



It's clearly VO 102. I think Mu Zi also switched to this but I haven't been able to obtain good enough photos to be certain.
sun is confirmed to use 102 max.
mu is used sp max.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Boll still using Tenergy 09C at the WTTC:

I can't really tell from this photo if TB is using T09C, but I am interested to know if he's still using it since then.  Is anyone else using it?  Do we really know anything about it?
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Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Boll still using Tenergy 09C at the WTTC:

I can't really tell from this photo if TB is using T09C, but I am interested to know if he's still using it since then.  Is anyone else using it?  Do we really know anything about it?

You have to download it at original size and zoom in. 

Not seen anyone else with it yet. There was some idle speculation that it's tacky, but no evidence of that so far.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/40705836883/

greekakopulous with bludopulous handlopulous

Looks a lot like a Carbonado 290 to me.  Sorry, a Carbonadopulous 290.

What's wrong with his surname Andy? I didn't expect from you, a serious member, to isult others... I am dissapointed. Also my name is Petropoulos like his is Sgouropoulos...

Ok I can understand pingpungpeng is a noob, but you...?
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Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/40705836883/

greekakopulous with bludopulous handlopulous

Looks a lot like a Carbonado 290 to me.  Sorry, a Carbonadopulous 290.

What's wrong with his surname Andy? I didn't expect from you, a serious member, to isult others... I am dissapointed. Also my name is Petropoulos like his is Sgouropoulos...

Ok I can understand pingpungpeng is a noob, but you...?

I may be wrong (I often am, I'm sure), but this seems to be an overreaction of surprising proportions.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with his, or anyone else's name.  I'm not trying to insult him, or anyone else.  I had no idea what your real name was at the time, and have zero interest in it now (although I understand that any interactions with you should be very serious from now on, of course - all business for sure - now that you've made it very clear).  

I really like the way the name "Sgouropoulos" enunciates, it rolls off the tongue in a wonderful way, and I thought it interesting and amusing (in spoken language terms) how it could be combined with the blade he has chosen to use to form a single entity.  It has a lovely cadence to me which dovetails with "carbonado" in such a way which made me wonder if Stiga should bring out a special edition or something like that.

Of course, one man's feeble attempt at humor could be another's mortal insult I guess, so maybe you should get in touch with a mod to ask for a temporary suspension for me?  I don't think I'll learn my lesson otherwise.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/40705836883/

greekakopulous with bludopulous handlopulous

Looks a lot like a Carbonado 290 to me.  Sorry, a Carbonadopulous 290.

What's wrong with his surname Andy? I didn't expect from you, a serious member, to isult others... I am dissapointed. Also my name is Petropoulos like his is Sgouropoulos...

Ok I can understand pingpungpeng is a noob, but you...?

I may be wrong (I often am, I'm sure), but this seems to be an overreaction of surprising proportions.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with his, or anyone else's name.  I'm not trying to insult him, or anyone else.  I had no idea what your real name was at the time, and have zero interest in it now (although I understand that any interactions with you should be very serious from now on, of course - all business for sure - now that you've made it very clear).  

I really like the way the name "Sgouropoulos" enunciates, it rolls off the tongue in a wonderful way, and I thought it interesting and amusing (in spoken language terms) how it could be combined with the blade he has chosen to use to form a single entity.  It has a lovely cadence to me which dovetails with "carbonado" in such a way which made me wonder if Stiga should bring out a special edition or something like that.

Of course, one man's feeble attempt at humor could be another's mortal insult I guess, so maybe you should get in touch with a mod to ask for a temporary suspension for me?  I don't think I'll learn my lesson otherwise.

No, no Andy, there is no reason for being more serious with me from now on, I was just messing around, but to be really honest it had a liiiiittle dose of seriousness Tongue
Nothing happened my friend!! Keep on making jokes...if I will be insulted I will tell you that in pm and not in public Wink
Also the finishing of the name ...opoulos is one of the most famous in Greece like ....akis like .....idis etc.
The most famous although is the .....opoulos like my surname is Petropoulos and Ioannis', Sgouropoulos.
Pleas guys support this athlete....it is the GReece's new star and we have no other kids with this huge talent....Support him cause Greece needs that after Kreanga and Gionis!
This little guy is very serious and mature for his age and he knows exactly how to react in the court. He has so strong mentallity and has a huge braveheart. Although if you meet him from close you can go eassily with him for a walk, or coffee or..........a souvlaki LOL This little guy is an example for many elder players.
I hope you didnt take anyuthing serious andy and we keep on our good relationship.
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seems to be using hurricane 3 on the forehand 
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Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/40705836883/

greekakopulous with bludopulous handlopulous

Looks a lot like a Carbonado 290 to me.  Sorry, a Carbonadopulous 290.

What's wrong with his surname Andy? I didn't expect from you, a serious member, to isult others... I am dissapointed. Also my name is Petropoulos like his is Sgouropoulos...

Ok I can understand pingpungpeng is a noob, but you...?

I may be wrong (I often am, I'm sure), but this seems to be an overreaction of surprising proportions.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with his, or anyone else's name.  I'm not trying to insult him, or anyone else.  I had no idea what your real name was at the time, and have zero interest in it now (although I understand that any interactions with you should be very serious from now on, of course - all business for sure - now that you've made it very clear).  

I really like the way the name "Sgouropoulos" enunciates, it rolls off the tongue in a wonderful way, and I thought it interesting and amusing (in spoken language terms) how it could be combined with the blade he has chosen to use to form a single entity.  It has a lovely cadence to me which dovetails with "carbonado" in such a way which made me wonder if Stiga should bring out a special edition or something like that.

Of course, one man's feeble attempt at humor could be another's mortal insult I guess, so maybe you should get in touch with a mod to ask for a temporary suspension for me?  I don't think I'll learn my lesson otherwise.

No, no Andy, there is no reason for being more serious with me from now on, I was just messing around, but to be really honest it had a liiiiittle dose of seriousness Tongue
Nothing happened my friend!! Keep on making jokes...if I will be insulted I will tell you that in pm and not in public Wink
Also the finishing of the name ...opoulos is one of the most famous in Greece like ....akis like .....idis etc.
The most famous although is the .....opoulos like my surname is Petropoulos and Ioannis', Sgouropoulos.
Pleas guys support this athlete....it is the GReece's new star and we have no other kids with this huge talent....Support him cause Greece needs that after Kreanga and Gionis!
This little guy is very serious and mature for his age and he knows exactly how to react in the court. He has so strong mentallity and has a huge braveheart. Although if you meet him from close you can go eassily with him for a walk, or coffee or..........a souvlaki LOL This little guy is an example for many elder players.
I hope you didnt take anyuthing serious andy and we keep on our good relationship.

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like a mafia boss from a movie.
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Originally posted by guni4you guni4you wrote:

seems to be using hurricane 3 on the forehand 



its obvious :)
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by guni4you guni4you wrote:

seems to be using hurricane 3 on the forehand 



its obvious :)
I am more curious about his blade then fh rubber

$5 says... Viscaria? LOL
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Originally posted by Facepalm Facepalm wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by guni4you guni4you wrote:

seems to be using hurricane 3 on the forehand 



its obvious :)
I am more curious about his blade then fh rubber


$5 says... Viscaria? LOL



Handle doesn’t looks like viscaria :)
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Who knows what blade and rubbers Jiri Vrablik has?





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Bit of an unusual question, but any idea what the triangle cuts on the short-sleeves of the polyester playing t-shirts are called? [Basically allow more movement, esp. when you're sweaty and the shirt

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Edited by liXiao - 05/30/2019 at 6:40pm
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