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Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!
feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


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feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by hut8 hut8 wrote:

what equipment  WANG Yuegu uses.
tsp ludeack + tyrano pips


on match final wttc 2010 :  Blade look like Donic sawtech


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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


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feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...

One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?
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Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!
feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...

One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?


Those sponges looks like the same color to me.. (btw, boll's racket is the one to the right, not to be confused with the TBS to the left)

Feng Tianwei at the 2010 WTTTC:



Edit: Picture by courtesy of the ITTF.

She has used the Stiga Kevlar for some time, but this looks more like a tube carbo to me! There is a better view of it in the match against Ding Ning, as mentioned earlier!



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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!
feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...

One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?


Those sponges looks like the same color to me.. (btw, boll's racket is the one to the right, not to be confused with the TBS to the left)

Feng Tianwei at the 2010 WTTTC:



Edit: Picture by courtesy of the ITTF.

She has used the Stiga Kevlar for some time, but this looks more like a tube carbo to me! There is a better view of it in the match against Ding Ning, as mentioned earlier!





OK, you're right, I was looking to TBS instead of ALC. Sorry!
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Originally posted by chain_05 chain_05 wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by hut8 hut8 wrote:

what equipment  WANG Yuegu uses.
tsp ludeack + tyrano pips


on match final wttc 2010 :  Blade look like Donic sawtech







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1) I saw Feng Tianwei using some Stiga blade with the '' Tube '' written on the handle during the match.
2) Why do the players have to be so specific about the weight of the blade? Lighter = thinner = slower and more vibration and vice versa? And for example, does a 92gr blade feel different from a 91gr? I'm really curious in these things because weight has never been one of my real concern ( unless I can feel it's too heavy XD )
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looks like Liu Shiwen is using korbel fl... anyone knows wat rubber she uses?
 
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Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:



...2) Why do the players have to be so specific about the weight of the blade?...does a 92gr blade feel different from a 91gr?



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Carneros uses an Acoustic and T05 FH/Nianmor BH
Machado plays with Mazunov with 2xT64
Duran uses a Korbel SK7 with t64 both wings.
Cantero has a contract with TSP.


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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:





Doesn't look like the same blade to me..

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Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago.. So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"


"uploaded"?, but when was it captured? mine was captured during Kuwait open.


It was uploaded to http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/ 4, now 5, days ago.

The Kuwait open was over 2 months ago, so it's not unlikely that he has changed his bh since then..



 
 
i ve been told some years ago that wang hao turned from sriver EL to mendo in one month and switch back to sriver, that makes me think that they are looking for the every posiblity for getting more speed/spin maybe their EJness is more accute
 
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Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:



...2) Why do the players have to be so specific about the weight of the blade?...does a 92gr blade feel different from a 91gr?



+ \infty
 
 
If using the exact same two rubber sheets (switching the same sheets between the blades), then there typically is a noticable difference between a 91 gm and a 91 gm blade when you strike the ball.   A 2 gm difference is approaching huge.   Still the pieces of wood within each blade also impact the feel between two blades that weigh the same and are the same model.
 
I have 3 Dawei Wavestones FL blades.  One is 85 gm and two are 87.  All three have very distinctive playing feel.  One 87 gm is significantly stiffer, more damped and has more power than the other two.  
 
I also weigh and select rubbers that have the sponge feel I want while also holding my total blade weight at 180 gm (178 being better) so that I have the quickness I want.  
 
If the system goes heavier I get more power but I am too slow to react to well in fast plays or more reliably BH loop fast chop serves.   When it gets too light (while using the same rubber sheets), the blade gets too flexible and power and flat hitting suffer.    
 
Euro rubbers are generally lighter and so you don't have such a hard time finding a good system within your weight target so you have more freedome in the weight of your blade.   
 
Heavy rubbers however can force you to more carefully select blade weight and the weight of the individual rubber sheets. 
 
If you can't really feel much of a difference when using blades of different weights or different rubber sheets then Don't Worry, Be Happy.
 
 
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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

looks like Liu Shiwen is using korbel fl... anyone knows wat rubber she uses?
 


I believe in ttprovider's video of Liu SW vs. Feng Tianwei in the finals of the 2010 WTTTC, there is a great clip of her bat at an angle where we could see the blade and the sponges of the rubbers. She is using Korbel for sure (confirmed with the BTY emblem on the bottom), some Blue sponge chinese rubber on the black/FH side, and some Tenergy (64?) based on the red-orange sponge rubber on the red/BH side.
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Hello,,, this is very helpful thanks...

but i have a question on glue,,, what do professionals use for sticking the rubbers,,, i used butterfly fair chack for tenergy on schlager and it's not bad... but do professionals only use this??? or they use something like boost or something else to make the racket looks more alive "if u know what i mean".     
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Pros probably use water-based glues (for example BTY Water Chack) so that their rackets pass the ENEZ tests, but chances are likely that they boost or tune with some "illegal" unknown substance. I'm not sure specifically with what though, sorry.
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What other players are using the korbel?


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if you look close you will notice that the blade above have the old type of buttfly logo on now the butterfly logo is the one on the other blade

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Originally posted by SLee SLee wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Doesn't look like the same blade to me..


Yeah I don't think so either. The top image has a line on the bottom of the handle where the butterfly logo is but the bottom image doesn't
 
 
 
the blade above with tenergy on has got the old style butterfly logo on the one below is has the new buttfly logo on
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Schlager,

If we are going to have one definitive post about pro's equipment, with a table on the first page, it needs to be updated more often. And a date should be added to when the equipment is updated. For example Liu Shiwen's blade from the WTTTC is obviously a Korbel... Please update Liu Shiwen's blade on the front page table and add the date of the WTTTC...

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Supposedly butterflyonline.com has seiya using michael maze now instead of custom zlc.
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Originally posted by AllezCho AllezCho wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

looks like Liu Shiwen is using korbel fl... anyone knows wat rubber she uses?
 


I believe in ttprovider's video of Liu SW vs. Feng Tianwei in the finals of the 2010 WTTTC, there is a great clip of her bat at an angle where we could see the blade and the sponges of the rubbers. She is using Korbel for sure (confirmed with the BTY emblem on the bottom), some Blue sponge chinese rubber on the black/FH side, and some Tenergy (64?) based on the red-orange sponge rubber on the red/BH side.
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Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

Schlager,

If we are going to have one definitive post about pro's equipment, with a table on the first page, it needs to be updated more often. And a date should be added to when the equipment is updated. For example Liu Shiwen's blade from the WTTTC is obviously a Korbel... Please update Liu Shiwen's blade on the front page table and add the date of the WTTTC...

Thanks.


I'm sorry I haven't been able to update it lately. I've had exams, a lot of work, moving etc. I'm going home for the summer this sunday, and will have a lot more time for updating it then!
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Originally posted by Gr8GrZ Gr8GrZ wrote:

Supposedly butterflyonline.com has seiya using michael maze now instead of custom zlc.


Yes.In today match against Apolonia he was using Maze.That's what I saw.
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he is using michael maze for very long time
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Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Originally posted by le xex le xex wrote:

was timo still using tenergy 05 on the black side? The sponge on the black seemed different than that on the red side, and he was using red for his FH...maybe he gave t05 fx a shot?


Look at 10:07 minute against Ma Long. Timo's black rubber is definitely not T05. The sponge is like Bryce Speed's or similar or something else.
What's the sponge color of T05 FX?


Are you sure you're looking at Timo Boll's racket? Make sure it's not Ma Long's one. In fact, Ma uses T 64 on his backhand (red) and a NEO Hurricane 3 (black). On the other hand, Timo uses 2 Tenergys 05.
NEO H3's sponge looks pretty similar to Bryce speed's sponge.
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Originally posted by Best99 Best99 wrote:

Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Originally posted by le xex le xex wrote:

was timo still using tenergy 05 on the black side? The sponge on the black seemed different than that on the red side, and he was using red for his FH...maybe he gave t05 fx a shot?


Look at 10:07 minute against Ma Long. Timo's black rubber is definitely not T05. The sponge is like Bryce Speed's or similar or something else.
What's the sponge color of T05 FX?


Are you sure you're looking at Timo Boll's racket? Make sure it's not Ma Long's one. In fact, Ma uses T 64 on his backhand (red) and a NEO Hurricane 3 (black). On the other hand, Timo uses 2 Tenergys 05.
NEO H3's sponge looks pretty similar to Bryce speed's sponge.
Check it out.
 
 
 
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