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Looks like WLQ has been trying to find a replacement for his speed-glued set up.  I guess as far as you guys tell me, he had used Hurricane King (of course), then probably Timo Boll ALC, and probably recently it's Clipper.  Well, let's see what he will settle with and hopefully, he won't retire soon.
 
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Does this look like a p700 or p500? Any guess as to what the rubbers may be? Donic F1?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mupio/6672490213/sizes/l/in/set-72157628805526467/
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Originally posted by FireHorse FireHorse wrote:

Looks like WLQ has been trying to find a replacement for his speed-glued set up.  I guess as far as you guys tell me, he had used Hurricane King (of course), then probably Timo Boll ALC, and probably recently it's Clipper.  Well, let's see what he will settle with and hopefully, he won't retire soon.
 
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He briefly used Rosewood 5 and switch to Clipper CR non WRB and seems to settle with it lately. Someone post pics of his blade with H3 front and back. Is this really his personal blade?
 
 
He is going to play in today and tomorrow's China vs World Team Challenge and CTTSL season so although China may not send him to the most important events, hopefully he will still be around for a while.


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Originally posted by Nori Nori wrote:

Does this look like a p700 or p500? Any guess as to what the rubbers may be? Donic F1?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mupio/6672490213/sizes/l/in/set-72157628805526467/

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zhang jike plays with blue sponged  xxx black rubber?
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Originally posted by runeazn runeazn wrote:

zhang jike plays with blue sponged  xxx black rubber?
Blue sponged Hurricane 3 with the new topsheet (could be normal or Neo)
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damm why is ttnpp sold out in the blue sponged hurricane :(
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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:



Originally posted by FireHorse FireHorse wrote:

Looks like WLQ has been trying to find a replacement for his speed-glued set up.  I guess as far as you guys tell me, he had used Hurricane King (of course), then probably Timo Boll ALC, and probably recently it's Clipper.  Well, let's see what he will settle with and hopefully, he won't retire soon.
 

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He briefly used Rosewood 5 and switch to Clipper CR non WRB and seems to settle with it lately. Someone post pics of his blade with H3 front and back. Is this really his personal blade?
 
 
He is going to play in today and tomorrow's China vs World Team Challenge and CTTSL season so although China may not send him to the most important events, hopefully he will still be around for a while.



The rubbers look like are boosted like hell. Ok, I'll start speed-gluing from tomorrow... :))
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Those pictures look so good.....
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originally posted by runeazn :

zhang jike plays with blue sponged  xxx black rubber?

zhang jike is using 2.1mm national neo hurricane 3 blue sponge with 40 degree hardness.

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i'm not pretty sure that theses pics aren't fake ! If i'm not wrong, there's no red national or provincial H3, and it does not look in good shape... it is said that pro players are still glueing their rubbers and sanding there blade to make the thickness legal (yeah for real in french league). and rubbers are already boosted from the manufacturers...
The rubbers looks very stretched on these pics

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I would say those pictures show WL's blade. Almost sure but not 100%.

Apparently, "there's no red H3 prov or nat" says KILIGOLO says, maybe but for us amateurs. The chinese team work with DHS ! They can have whatever they need from DHS.

Also, some people keep saying they have their black h3 sheets boosted in factory. That is a NO (excepting most H3 neo come factory tuned). They get their personal National sheets, like every succesfull players in the national team, and then they boost it either themselves or by some guy in the CNT whose job is to boost rubbers for the team mates. But IMO they do it themselves, if not for the training sessions at least for the tournaments. I don't remember but they change their rubbers almost every day or every two days, so it could be a pain to take care of that by themselves...

One more thing, I don't think they get their blade thickness reduced in order to pass the VOC test before tournaments... Hurricane 3 is in 2.10 or 2.15mm, even boosted the max thickness is below or equal to the maximum thickness authorized. Maybe I don't know sh*t about this but... wouldn't reducing the thickness change totally the playing caracteristics of the blade ?!
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What is Zhou yu exactly using ? I've seen him with a PG7 but I've read around here he uses viscaria. So ?
And someone knows what backhand rubber he uses (picture proof would be great)? Probably a tenergy of some sort but not sure..
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sanding the blade does nothing for the thickness rule..... the thickness of your rubber topsheet and sponge has to be 4mm or under, your blade being thin or thick makes no difference. 
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Originally posted by Takkyu Takkyu wrote:

What is Zhou yu exactly using ? I've seen him with a PG7 but I've read around here he uses viscaria. So ?
And someone knows what backhand rubber he uses (picture proof would be great)? Probably a tenergy of some sort but not sure..

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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

sanding the blade does nothing for the thickness rule..... the thickness of your rubber topsheet and sponge has to be 4mm or under, your blade being thin or thick makes no difference. 

I think the rumor is that players are sanding/hollowing out the middle of their paddle but not the edges, so they can expand the rubber in the middle but it still measures correctly on the sides. Sounds crazy, I know.
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Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

sanding the blade does nothing for the thickness rule..... the thickness of your rubber topsheet and sponge has to be 4mm or under, your blade being thin or thick makes no difference. 

I think the rumor is that players are sanding/hollowing out the middle of their paddle but not the edges, so they can expand the rubber in the middle but it still measures correctly on the sides. Sounds crazy, I know.

pretty stupid explanation for the supporters , there is no way you can do that ,any person even a kid could tell that the raquet was modified..so you work in the nasa for thickening the rubber in the middle??  that is a message form sharara: my friends need mo money..the next milestone    300$+ blades
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"I think the rumor is that players are sanding/hollowing out the middle of their paddle but not the edges, so they can expand the rubber in the middle but it still measures correctly on the sides. Sounds crazy, I know."

and that's wht they do ;) there's no speed glue control machines (EZ)in the french league, referees do control only the thickness of the sheets...
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They don't hollow out the blade. They simply sand the rubbered area of the blade to remove any excess glue build up. They don't sand the part by the handle. Thus the area with the rubber will be slightly lower that that at the handle. Miniscule difference but they just want to reduce the chance of an 'accidental' high measurement.
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Originally posted by Tinykin Tinykin wrote:

They don't hollow out the blade. They simply sand the rubbered area of the blade to remove any excess glue build up. They don't sand the part by the handle. Thus the area with the rubber will be slightly lower that that at the handle. Miniscule difference but they just want to reduce the chance of an 'accidental' high measurement.


This is what I heard too. They sandpaper off a little from the top ply where there ruber is placed. The measuring device's leg placed on the part that is not covered by the rubber on the blade which is a little higher as a result than the playing surface. I also heard that some players put a thin layer of laqueur on this part for the same reason.
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Far better described than my poor englishSmile
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The ITTF does check height difference between the edge and the middle of the rubber but there's a big tolerance, 0.50mm. 

Video link is from slevin's thread on ITTF racket testing:

From around 2:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fTCbpWmPzTY#t=123s




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Originally posted by Hans Regenkurt Hans Regenkurt wrote:

Originally posted by Tinykin Tinykin wrote:

They don't hollow out the blade. They simply sand the rubbered area of the blade to remove any excess glue build up. They don't sand the part by the handle. Thus the area with the rubber will be slightly lower that that at the handle. Miniscule difference but they just want to reduce the chance of an 'accidental' high measurement.


This is what I heard too. They sandpaper off a little from the top ply where there ruber is placed. The measuring device's leg placed on the part that is not covered by the rubber on the blade which is a little higher as a result than the playing surface. I also heard that some players put a thin layer of laqueur on this part for the same reason.

I spotted a player in a tournament that had 2 offensive rubbers but when he made a BH hit his opponent sank  the ball in the net and a lot of weird balls  ,looks like the later couldnt understand what was happening   after some snooping i found that the 1st guy every 2 matches pulled  off his BH rubber and applied 3 tiny spots in the blade with WBG  like the corners of a triangle the rubber  was barely attached in the blade that trick made his opponent to put a lof of balls in the net, this cheatery very hard to detect
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anyone know what is Chen Qi using? The last time I knew, he was using Rosewood but I am not sure about what he's using now.
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I think Chen Qi is using Clipper at the moment, but I don't know about the rubbers though
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Which equipment are Kristian and Mattias Karlsson using?
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A lot of chinese players in the China super league use PG7 (Ma Long 506 blade). I've seen Zhou Yu and Cui Qinglei lately with that blade
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Originally posted by Nagatito Nagatito wrote:

Which equipment are Kristian and Mattias Karlsson using?

Kristian uses Clipper + Calibra LT

Mattias uses Ma Lin Soft Carbon + Rakza PO and Rakza 9

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This week in China Super LEague,Hao Shuai X Joo SaeHyuk



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what is zhau yu using?
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