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Tibhar Evolution replacement for Rasant |
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icontek 
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 Topic: Tibhar Evolution replacement for RasantPosted: 10/11/2020 at 5:55pm |
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I hated Rasanter I loved the thick top sheet original, plain Rasant. I loved the high throw and the monster spin and medium Sponge of Rasant. I loved how strong Rasant makes service spin. Is there a thicker top sheet Evolution that feels and plays similar?
Thanks!
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Posted: 10/11/2020 at 7:07pm |
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how many degrees?
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Posted: 10/11/2020 at 8:25pm |
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45 I guess.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 at 9:24pm |
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Icontek: Try both Evolution MX-S and EL-P. I found these came very close to playing characteristics of the Rasant series rubbers you mentioned. Except the MX-S doesn't last as long |
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icontek
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Posted: 10/12/2020 at 8:31pm |
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Thank you. My gut instinct was that EL-P would be similar. I was wondering about MX-S though. The original Rasant has a thick topsheet and amazing durability, so the comments about MX-S are a bit of a turnoff :( Edited by icontek - 10/12/2020 at 8:59pm |
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Forgot to mention I am a fan of the original Rasant series too - especially the Grip and Powergrip. Not thrilled about Rasanter series. Give the MX-S a try, you just might like even though it doesn't last as long. It's performance that counts. Then you might get hooked. This and the EL-P are in your wheelhouse  Edited by Snakefish - 10/12/2020 at 11:58pm |
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FH: Tenergy 05Hard 2.1 BH: Tenergy 80 2.1 Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-P Hard 2.1 BH: Tibhar Aurus 2.1 |
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Posted: 10/13/2020 at 4:54am |
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Stick to Andro.
Hexer powergrip and powergrip sfx are the same as rasant...
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I will go the EL-P route. Decided the MX sponge seemed a bit much, so ordered a sheet of EL-S as well.
I didn't know about Hexer powergrip - that looks harder than Rasant - Hexer powergrip SFX looks softer. Perhaps Andro Hexer Grip (matches the 45 sponge) would be ideal? |
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Posted: 10/14/2020 at 8:29am |
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I agree with ELS, mxs feels harder.
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Posted: 10/14/2020 at 9:02am |
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Maybe Hexer Grip is the best solution. Hardness is 45° and some people said that the Hexer Powergrip/Grip series are more or less the old Rasant.
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