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World Table Tennis Championships have been held for almost a century. Here are Top 10 players in the history of WTTC, featuring Ma Long, Wang Liqin, and some of the old-school table tennis legends, such as Ferenc Sido and others.


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not the best choices
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Feels like an AI geneated video tbh...


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zzzuppp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/20/2023 at 7:36am
Barna √, Ma Long √,Ogimura √; Vana- probably..... the rest - hmmm, maybe

No Waldner, no Zhuang Zedong, no Bergmann. 

and no Women at all. If you're going to call your video 'Top 10 Players in WTTC History' and omit Mednyanszky, Rozeanu, Deng Yaping (etc) that's just rank sexism.

C'mon!
Waldner and Zhuang obviously should be there 
Bergmann won the WTTC FOUR times either side of WW2 (where he missed out on 8 of his prime years) and missed another WTTC where he was banned.

Ma Lin, who gets in the list somehow, lost three WTTC finals (and never won) - but the same is true of Laszlo Bellak, Li Furong, Aloizy Ehrlich...

Team medals don't count, IMHO. Otherwise anyone in the CNT post-2000 would qualify as '10 greatest'.

I think this uploader has just patched together some presentable footage he's acquired.
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

not the best choices

Maybe not the best, but stats give a more objective picture, removing all the bias. Those are 10 most accomplished players with the most gold medals. The old-school guys had some advantage due to the fact that WTTC was held every year, but they still deserve credit. Any other Top 10, based on eye-test and personal opinion would be a subjective one. Criteria can be always changed one way or another. With stats, it's all simple.
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Originally posted by zzzuppp zzzuppp wrote:

Barna √, Ma Long √,Ogimura √; Vana- probably..... the rest - hmmm, maybe

No Waldner, no Zhuang Zedong, no Bergmann. 

and no Women at all. If you're going to call your video 'Top 10 Players in WTTC History' and omit Mednyanszky, Rozeanu, Deng Yaping (etc) that's just rank sexism.

C'mon!
Waldner and Zhuang obviously should be there 
Bergmann won the WTTC FOUR times either side of WW2 (where he missed out on 8 of his prime years) and missed another WTTC where he was banned.

Ma Lin, who gets in the list somehow, lost three WTTC finals (and never won) - but the same is true of Laszlo Bellak, Li Furong, Aloizy Ehrlich...

Team medals don't count, IMHO. Otherwise anyone in the CNT post-2000 would qualify as '10 greatest'.

I think this uploader has just patched together some presentable footage he's acquired.

Men and women sports are two different worlds. You won't include WNBA players among the greatest basketball players ever. The women's game is not as bad compared to the men's game as it is in most of the sports, but outside of top Asian players, it's not even close anyway. It's reality, not sexism.

About everything else. Already explained in previous message. It's based on stats. Everything else would be subjective. Who's better - Wang Liqin or Zhuang Zedong? Or maybe Wang Hao? Or Zhang Jike? You can argue this for weeks. Everyone will have different opinion, everyone have their own favorites & bias. Stats remove all this. Who won the most, deserves the credit. Can't blame the players for their success in their respective era.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/21/2023 at 3:31pm
There are many ways to look at stats.

It might have been better to separate the WTTC eras into "annual" (1929-1957) and "biennial" (1926-1928, 1959-1997, 2001) and "individual edition (odd-numbered years since 1999, 2003-)" and "team edition" (even-numbered years since 2000, 2004-).

And to go one step further, make note of:
38mm celluloid/hardbat/21-point/finger-spin/no-finger-spin/service toss/sponge/sandwich rubber/ball-must-be-falling-before-struck-when-serving/speed glue (1926-2000);
40mm celluloid/21-point/hidden-serve/speed glue (2001);
40mm celluloid/11-point/no-hidden-serve/speed glue (2003-2008);
40mm celluloid/11-point/no-hidden-serve/water-based glue (2009-2014);
40+ cellulose acetate/11-point/no-hidden-serve/water-based glue (2015-2016);
40+ ABS/11-point/no-hidden-serve/water-based glue (2017-)

Edited by zeio - 04/21/2023 at 3:40pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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