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grotik ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 10/31/2011 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Hi all
Can you guys help me, my Q is. How is this combo for a beginner? Should i change something? Thank you.
STIGA Offensive Classic
FH: Yasaka Mark V - 1.8
BH: Yasaka Mark V - 1.8
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arg0 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/22/2009 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2023 |
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No they're not. Any blade faster than OFF- is not suitable for beginners.
You may get used to play with them, but you will most likely not develop a good technique. |
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i rock ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Forum Flooder Joined: 03/20/2011 Location: riyadh k.s.a Status: Offline Points: 107 |
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wht about the gergerly 21 and the old 1 is suitable for beginners
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garwor ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 06/02/2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 730 |
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it will be fantastic...for your coach :D 2 hours every day x 7 days x 9 weeks x 20$ = 2520$ . But you will have to continue to be coached (because still 50% of your shots will not be good enough) for at least two years, it's then 29200 $ |
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bluebucket ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: 02/20/2011 Location: 16 Status: Offline Points: 2882 |
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I was talking to a guy that uses a carbon blade, he's been playing more than 20 years but only became a very high level player in the last few years. He told me he has been using a carbon blade for a long time but it had ruined his game and that the reason he's a better player now is that he went back to an all round blade and took serious coaching for a few years THEN went back to a carbon blade. This is coming from a guy that plays like 2400 US and would have been 2100 before going back to an all round and getting coaching
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mikepong ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/09/2011 Location: Philippines Status: Offline Points: 1202 |
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i own and use a gergely for a good 14 years its my second blade after using stiga AR for 3 months, for a total beginner it maybe too fast, my coach then convinced me to shift back to stiga AR so i used AR for another year before totally switching to gergely, ive seen beginners using TBS and they learned to adapt and of course coaching helped but in my opinion better to start with an allround blade, SC is on a total different level, that blade is too fast even schlager does not use that blade and not recommended for beginners (IMHO)
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i rock ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Forum Flooder Joined: 03/20/2011 Location: riyadh k.s.a Status: Offline Points: 107 |
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how about a beginner or amateur buys timo boll spirit or schlager carbon etc....... and goes for coaching everyday for about a month or 2 will it b okay
and by the way is old gergerly good for beginners not the alpha one |
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frogger ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08/03/2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
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Primorac is a bit fast for a beginner unless thinner medium speed rubber is used(1.5). A better choice is A. Grubba or Grubba Pro models, as they provide longer dwell time and better control. For a real bargain by all means contact Cole's, he can build the perfect setup for low bucks.
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flash ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11/12/2009 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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Bty Petr Korbel it's a great choise...also Bty Oh Sang Eun it's very good...
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arg0 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/22/2009 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2023 |
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I second the W6. Great blade to learn looping.
Was considering Kasumi Basic for a beginner, but maybe it's a little too fast. Would pair it with Flextra or Micro 1.7mm. Nittaku does not rate it as being fast, but Latika (which is a bigger Kasumi) is decidedly rated OFF. Any comments? |
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shay2be ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 04/20/2011 Location: usa Status: Offline Points: 750 |
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the juic kalinic is a great choice too!
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lovemagicworld ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 03/17/2011 Location: MALAYSIA Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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kasumi basic?
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RyKnocks ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 05/15/2011 Location: Elk Grove, CA Status: Offline Points: 231 |
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I would go for a Galaxy M6 or W6 with Dawei IQUL rubber from colestt.com. For $60 you can get a very awesome setup that'll play just as well as the higher priced BTY blades.
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zzz ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09/30/2010 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 342 |
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No, too stiff and too fast. |
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lovemagicworld ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 03/17/2011 Location: MALAYSIA Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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is clipper for improving players?
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ohhgourami ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08/12/2008 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 2341 |
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I think you should create a new thread so that more people can help you on it. I also dont think you can go wrong with any of them. |
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JanOW ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 11/20/2009 Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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I can't decide to which blade will be my first custom made bat:
- Butterfly Primorac - Butterfly Grubba - Stiga Allround Tube - Appelgreen Allplay I've read a lot about this on forums and other table tennis sites. Is Maze Advanced ALL+ (7ply) is similar than the above blades? I think I'll use both side Sriver L. I like offensive playing with topspin and hitting. Which one would be the best for me? Thanks. |
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Beggining is the most fun you will get, before this game becomes serious
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AVALOX BLUE THUNDER
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ohhgourami ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08/12/2008 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 2341 |
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Because beginners don't understand ball spin very well. If I gave you a powerless setup with thin Hurricane rubbers, you will probably have the spinniest setup and hit the hardest and still land balls. But the problem is, you'll have a field day if I'm on the other side serving. I'll give you so many different serves, you'll want to quit tt. ![]() Not only that, beginners can't loop underspin, even if its light. I've almost always started out with Chinese rubbers and had it much harder than the euro/jap rubber users at my club. But to me, I'll be better in the long run as I have a better understand of spin and such. That was when I was a straight out beginner, now they pay the price as I toy with them in short game ![]() |
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Custom Walnut 7-ply
DHS H3 Provincial untuned 40° BTY T64 210g |
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LYN... ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09/10/2009 Location: Philippines Status: Offline Points: 42 |
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When I started last year, I used a Prince hobby bat. I did not even know about other carbon blades. It does not even have an ITTF on it.
I really am was a beginner, knowing nothing at all about the table tennis world. I have searched, played in different playing areas, meet new friends who are players for so many years, joined tournaments, etc. Then I enjoyed trying different blades such as: Stiga Tube Def, Schlager carbon, Primo Vitesse, VSG, photino, gergely, sardius, amultart, jun mizutani, etc. At present, I am contented with my Ishlion ULC plus T64 and T25. Beginner's blade can be a hobby bat or a wood blade first then when he feels that he needs to shift to a faster blade, a carbon is next in line for him. ![]() |
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ddaw ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 134 |
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whats the difference between a beginning player and intermidate one? Is it rating or skill level? |
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TBS V6 729 training blade ;) |
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Egghead ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09/05/2009 Location: N.A. Status: Offline Points: 4230 |
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ya, price at cole is ok; he does not rip you off. I paid $60 for a no-name chinese blade + 2 x 729 regular rubbers ![]() |
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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tolsenbb ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 11/29/2009 Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Why don't beginners want the spinniest racket available? Shouldn't that help them hit it hard with more spin easier? Since their skill probably doesn't allow them to hit it with that much spin...
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dabookerman ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 04/10/2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 697 |
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I really liked the cheapest Mark V Paddle Palace combo. You can get a Mark V blade and Mark V (or other rubbers) for $74. That is tough to beat and it worked well for me.
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I see that no one answered :S, well, basically I think it's a premade, and sometimes stiga premades cost quite a lot, so for that price you could get a decent beginner combo blade from colestt.com or zeropong.com. Also, premade paddles ratings are totally false, a 10 on spin on a premade usually doesn't worth a 4-5 on custom-made rackets. Hope it helped ;)
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specialjustin ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 10/12/2008 Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Yasaka extra is NOT a beginners blade, i would say it was for some one who has got a grasp of control and stroke technique, and wishes to up the speed (this is regardless of rubber choice). Also i could not recommend a Stiga all round classic as a starting blade as it has so much vibration that learning about "feel" becomes confusing. This maybe due to the fact it was for the 38mm ball?
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Totoro ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/14/2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1275 |
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Would YEO be intermediate or beginner ?
Thanks
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I'm 15
Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
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I hope you mean the fxel supersoft rubbers. The old school fx is hard and sticky as heck. Horrible rubbers for beginners. The fxel one is great.
They use the same mold for both, so it can be confusing. The one that's good for beginners is this one: http://zeropong.com/xcart4/product.php?productid=88&cat=287&page=1
But I like six shooter even better. It's a little less tacky, and I think the sponge has a better feel across the spectrum. Six shooter in 1.8 would be a perfect beginner setup. And on top of that you're supporting an american brand. Not made in america of course, but at least american owned. Of course, that may not mean much to those of us who aren't in America I guess.
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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b
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hinokio ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08/27/2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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So what is considered a good beginner JPen blade?
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