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    Posted: 04/16/2010 at 5:31pm
Schlager Werner vs Wang liqin :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=42RUEZIX

Schlager Werner  vs Kong Linghui:
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=9R1FHZVB

Schlager Werner vs Joo Se Hyuk :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=40Z245ZA

Kreanga Kalinikos vs Samsonov Vladimir :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=02IML1YM

Ma Lin vs Joo Se Hyuk :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=41PBIJOV

Kong Linghui vs Qiu Yike :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=VC5D2PWC

Kreanga Kalinikos vs Chen Weixing :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=Y8WEHU8P

Boll Timo vs Qiu Yike :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=NBPJQYTH

َALL FROM KRREANGA.COM

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Thanks for posting these! Please read my PM to you...

Could you organize them as it is done in wttc 2005/2007/2009 threads? Thanks again!
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Korbel Petr vs Liu Guozheng
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=AW0JP6A9
Kong Linghui vs Tsiokas Ntaniel :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=H2Q17NXF
Wang Hao vs Chang Yen-shu
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=WNMLMDC0

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Hey omid1371,

If you wanted to save time, you simply could have posted the links of the websites where you get all theses links:
- http://kkreanga.fr/
- http://garykidall.new.fr/
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+1 .
The overall interest of tt community , MTTN enclosed , is to promote and to support the websites of paullau512 and garykidall , not to share stolen links .

Otherwise we will become subordinates of Chinese forums , were we are going to say thank you , thank you , thank you , thank you moderator , throughout the live , to get a short video . No offens to the great Chinese forums.....

Is it a sermon or a pragmatic point of view ?

Please , register to :
http://www.kkreanga.fr/
http://garykidall.new.fr/  or  http://mandigo39.chez-alice.fr/

PS: since Jimt pointed out these and other tt-video wsites in his fixed thread , I have to suppose he means well when he post duplicated links of garykidall found by MU searching.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=33737

And omid1371 , who know perfectly those links , claps !!!!!!

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/17/2010 at 8:31pm
yes, I agree that omid should have started all these threads with messages saying that the links were copied from those French web sites.

However, when I search for the MU links using megadownload.net, I cannot determine who compiled the databases before so quite often I am not able to give the proper credit to the creators and compilers of the original clips. That's just how it is. When possible, the credit should be given, of course.
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Originally posted by paullau512 paullau512 wrote:

Hey omid1371,

If you wanted to save time, you simply could have posted the links of the websites where you get all theses links:
- http://kkreanga.fr/
- http://garykidall.new.fr/
 
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

yes, I agree that omid should have started all these threads with messages saying that the links were copied from those French web sites.

However, when I search for the MU links using megadownload.net, I cannot determine who compiled the databases before so quite often I am not able to give the proper credit to the creators and compilers of the original clips. That's just how it is. When possible, the credit should be given, of course.

Simple.  You can always start or end your post by indicating how you sourced the download links and you were unable to give the credit properly because {you fill in the blank here}.
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Generally it works, GenomicsKnight , but in this case it isn't enough .
I read the sentence of JimT " Once again - the further posts will contain only links to MTTN's own threads! " as a statement of originality and fair competition .
And JimT is too experienced with forums to underrate these things .

The posts should be delated .

That's all . And I don't feel sad to be a maverick .

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Originally posted by NickoRulez NickoRulez wrote:

Generally it works, GenomicsKnight , but in this case it isn't enough .
I read the sentence of JimT " Once again - the further posts will contain only links to MTTN's own threads! " as a statement of originality and fair competition .
And JimT is too experienced with forums to underrate these things .

The posts should be delated .

That's all . And I don't feel sad to be a maverick .


I agree.  Especially the rightful owner of those links, Paul, already made claims here.  So those posts with uncredited download links should be deleted.
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JimT ,
I bring some facts to your attention , without comments .

- Some years ago , by pm , garykidall asked me , and implicitly MTTN , for permission to use my Eindohven 1999 and 2007 WTTC links in his site . Links formally mine , essentially by other people . I hold the post .
- Lucioping made previously a like call to Stanley , for his ws.
- Historically , mytabletennis.net gives topics and videolinks to other western forums , not vice versa . This is its strength .

On a different side :
- Stef sent his MU links of cttsl (?) to martinspin .
- I'm doing the same with kkreanga .
- by email fatcomet offered his help to paullau in rainy days.

All normal people .

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Originally posted by NickoRulez NickoRulez wrote:

JimT ,
I bring some facts to your attention , without comments .

- Some years ago , by pm , garykidall asked me , and implicitly MTTN , for permission to use my Eindohven 1999 and 2007 WTTC links in his site . Links formally mine , essentially by other people . I hold the post .
- Lucioping made previously a like call to Stanley , for his ws.
- Historically , mytabletennis.net gives topics and videolinks to other western forums , not vice versa . This is its strength .

On a different side :
- Stef sent his MU links of cttsl (?) to martinspin .
- I'm doing the same with kkreanga .
- by email fatcomet offered his help to paullau in rainy days.

All normal people .



I think we should have a lively discussion on the issue in a separate thread - let me summarize my position here, though:

When anyone posts an MU link to a file on a public forum, it is automatically presumed that this person doesn't claim to have a copyright or any sort of right to that file other than being its original uploader.

Not to mention - and this is a really big issue (especially for some people) - that 99% of the uploaded files are copies or excerpts from some proprietary DVDs or TV streams and therefore, formally speaking, they are pirated. Even YouTube compilations or medleys can be said to infringe on the copyrights of Reflex, CCTV, ETTU and many other video-producing organizations.

Therefore I posit here that

a) assigning credit to the original uploader should be done when possible
b) knowing the original uploader is usually almost impossible - who said that the links from kkreanga or garykidall or martinspin are all "originals"? some of them are, of course. All we can do is thank them (or whoever else we want to thank)
c) I want to reiterate that the fact of posting the links on public forums automatically (that's just how the web works) allows anyone to re-post them. Of course, it is an acknowledged rule of Internet etiquette that you try to assign credit - some people don;t even do that.
d) tracking credit and blame for posting the links to MU files is just silly in my opinion. It would be nice if people posted the credits etc, but if they don't, what can we do - I bet there are websites A which copied links from B which copied them from C, which copied... from X... and of course credit is usually lost.
e) what we should do is to come up with some kind of good and polite disclaimer which I will gladly put into the MTTN Video Links post, and then we should just go on with our uploading/sharing activities. After all, we don't really do it so that someone will say "JimT or Nicko or GaryKidAll or kkreanga are superdudes and we need to erect a statue to them". It's nice to get thanked but if we don't get that, that's not going to stop us, is it?

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