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    Posted: 05/14/2022 at 5:13pm
SANDWICH RUBBERS. A new regulation is underway.

ITTF always looking to keep up fair play and they ultimately determined on how to effectively prevent the use of no-name, handmade and substandard sponge for major competitions, that:
The revised T4 document has a new provision as follows
Quote — Sandwich covering shall be a permanent combination of a topsheet and a sponge layer.
This implies that nor player nor manufacturer may alter the original composition of sandwich rubber. The sponge incorporated into sandwich covering ought to has factory "label of identity" on the sponge open side/ Players are forbidden of using a sponge sheet without the ID mark.

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This thread about pro's equipment. Let’s stick to the subject
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I recently crossed over to my 70's, and have been playing since 1974. I couldn't begin to remember all the blades and rubbers that I have played with. I am in good physical condition and have a decent game. I have to agree with Tommy about 05. I played with it for about 4 years and found it very challenging at times. Some days I played great with it, and other days, not so good. I can play hardbat, short pips, and long pips. But, I would always go back to inverted. Finally settled on a Viscaria with 05Hard, both sides, or so I thought until Dignics showed up. I tried Dignics 05 on my forehand, but went back to 05 Hard. Out of curiosity I bought a sheet of 09c black, max sponge. I first tried it on my forehand, and became frustrated very quickly. It played nothing like 05Hard. I was impressed by the spin it created, but I couldn't figure out how to power loop with it. So, I tried it on my backhand. I gave up on using it there. I read about having to boost it, but I told myself that it must be my technique. So, I put it back on my forehand and kept trying. Slowly but surely, the rubber came alive. I am not really sure how I adapted to it, but I almost felt like that I had to break the rubber in. I will know more about that when I buy a new sheet.  I can now do whatever I need it to do. I would never go back to 05Hard on my forehand now. I still like 05Hard on my backhand, but it does require a very loose grip to backhand loop heavy underspin, at least for me. I may have to look for something else for my backhand at some point. I'm just glad to be still playing.
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

I agree with timoboll89. I have same impression from dignics 05: very hard, slow, no catapult


harder than your H3N?



Yes
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To me Dicnics is very strange rubber. I have tried 05 and 80 versions. With my technique 80 is slow and has no spin with ”normal” loop. On the other hand when I counter drive rubber is really fast and spinny. 05 is a bit different. When I’m physically fresh and in good form the rubber is really good. However I’m often a bit tired and not focusing 100% and then 05 is really hard rubber to play with. This way 05 reminds me a bit of a Mendo mp from sg era. So My opinion is that Dicnics rubbers are for the people with good technique and good physics not the 40+ oldies like I am. By the way if you want to test black Dicnics 80 in great condition let me know😉.
What is the point of playing safe shots when you can miss with style

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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

I agree with timoboll89. I have same impression from dignics 05: very hard, slow, no catapult


harder than your H3N?
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Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

when you play an unboosted dignics 05 its very hard, you loop and the ball tends to go down. Once boosted it becomes much more lively, a totally different animal


You sure you talking about a legitimate Dignics 05 and not some other rubber?
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What Carlo Rossi using?
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I have the same impressions of the guys from Karahashi TT who reviewed rubbers in Japan. I even know one of them.
According to their tests Dignics 05 can not be slow at all. Actually it´s one of the fastest rubbers around.
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I agree with timoboll89. I have same impression from dignics 05: very hard, slow, no catapult
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Originally posted by JediJesseS JediJesseS wrote:

Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

when you play an unboosted dignics 05 its very hard, you loop and the ball tends to go down

Complete opposite experience here, D05 is very springly and lively, big catapult effect.
I agree, I have a D05 unboosted in my BH, and it´s not hard at all. And the catapult effect is huge.
If I compare to my FH rubber, Rakza Z EH, it´s much harder with low catapult.
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Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

when you play an unboosted dignics 05 its very hard, you loop and the ball tends to go down

Complete opposite experience here, D05 is very springly and lively, big catapult effect.
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when you play an unboosted dignics 05 its very hard, you loop and the ball tends to go down. Once boosted it becomes much more lively, a totally different animal
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Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

Have you ever played with a fresh hurricane, dignics 09C or dignics 05? Without any treatment they are unplayable,no feel, slow, no catapult at all. They play like bricks!
Dignics 05 = Unplayable without booster? Slow? No catapult? 
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It seems that you never played with Dignics 05.
Otherwise I do not understand your comment.
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guys after 15 years of tabletennis without speedglue you are still wondering if those rubbers are boosted or not.
All the rubbers played by pros are boosted! If they dont boost directly they receive special treated rubbers from the factory.

Have you ever played with a fresh hurricane, dignics 09C or dignics 05? Without any treatment they are unplayable,no feel, slow, no catapult at all. They play like bricks!

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Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

What about the thickness of her rubbers? Especially her short pip backhand side? 

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by Claudiu84 Claudiu84 wrote:

Anyone knows Miyuu KIHARA equipment?


Victas released special 90th anniversary editions of all their blades, and this is the "Miyuu Kihara" model, which is just a Fire Fall VC (her usual blade) with a different handle. Victas V > 15 Extra and VO > 102 are her rubbers (she did briefly use Triple Double Extra early last year, but she switched back fairly quickly).

The black rubber is boosted.
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Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

What about the thickness of her rubbers? Especially her short pip backhand side? 

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by Claudiu84 Claudiu84 wrote:

Anyone knows Miyuu KIHARA equipment?


Victas released special 90th anniversary editions of all their blades, and this is the "Miyuu Kihara" model, which is just a Fire Fall VC (her usual blade) with a different handle. Victas V > 15 Extra and VO > 102 are her rubbers (she did briefly use Triple Double Extra early last year, but she switched back fairly quickly).



Pretty sure her FH is MAX and her BH is 2.0


Edited by liXiao - 03/31/2022 at 4:29pm
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gacina uses viscaria with dignics 09C and dignics 05.
Lim uses a super viscaria with tenergy hard and dignics 09C
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Anybody knows what blade and rubbers Gacina is using?
​​​​​​​Also what Lim Jong-hoon is using?
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What about the thickness of her rubbers? Especially her short pip backhand side? 

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by Claudiu84 Claudiu84 wrote:

Anyone knows Miyuu KIHARA equipment?


Victas released special 90th anniversary editions of all their blades, and this is the "Miyuu Kihara" model, which is just a Fire Fall VC (her usual blade) with a different handle. Victas V > 15 Extra and VO > 102 are her rubbers (she did briefly use Triple Double Extra early last year, but she switched back fairly quickly).
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Originally posted by Claudiu84 Claudiu84 wrote:

Anyone knows Miyuu KIHARA equipment?


Victas released special 90th anniversary editions of all their blades, and this is the "Miyuu Kihara" model, which is just a Fire Fall VC (her usual blade) with a different handle. Victas V > 15 Extra and VO > 102 are her rubbers (she did briefly use Triple Double Extra early last year, but she switched back fairly quickly).
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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

Felix Lebrun is already an interesting player, being an european and playing C-pen style.
Does anybody know what he uses?



Innerforce ZLC


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Anyone knows Miyuu KIHARA equipment?



Edited by Claudiu84 - 03/31/2022 at 6:35am
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sorry for my ugly face and signature but this is hayata blade ;) 
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https://www.facebook.com/Spinnier/photos/pcb.2446726268962032/2446726175628708

I saw this (old) post from Spinnier, looks like an 09c on an innerforce

https://www.mytischtennis.de/public/fotos/1789/buntes---schlaegergalerie-vom-europe-youth-top-10-2020/14/#content


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Felix Lebrun is already an interesting player, being an european and playing C-pen style.
Does anybody know what he uses?
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http://shop.chinatt.com/goods-2160.html
on chinese website,i'm not sure if you can buy that conveniently.
Yinhe Pro-01 CS

Jupiter III FH

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Originally posted by Drunk_Mangix Drunk_Mangix wrote:

it‘s yinhe’s XuYingBin ALC



You know where we can buy it?
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it‘s yinhe’s XuYingBin ALC.
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