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Originally posted by albert19 albert19 wrote:

What is the currently blade about Jang Woojin? Dhs blade or other? Which?


dhs w968 jang woojin limited edition I guess. The one with his picture at the bottom of the handle. You can find photos on google.

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I´ve noticed Ma Long and Wang Chuqin are using a different red rubber. Its sponge is clear, almost white, doesn´t look like a Hurricane.
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I can't tell.. is this Dignics 05 or 09c?

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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

I can't tell.. is this Dignics 05 or 09c?



Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.
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He Zhuojia switched to DNA Platinum H/XH

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during the game Franziska was sometimes switching to red dignics 05 on forehand...the other side is dignics 09C.

probably he is still not so used to FH 09C and needed some consistency and security given by a rubber he used for a longer period.


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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.


I am more and more convinced their "What pros use" listing is a complete lie.  If you look at the logo there is a lot of space between the DignicsXX label and the logo. I think with the 09c, the text and the logo are pretty much next to each other.   That's why I asked in the first place. I think it's the 05. 

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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.


I am more and more convinced their "What pros use" listing is a complete lie.  If you look at the logo there is a lot of space between the DignicsXX label and the logo. I think with the 09c, the text and the logo are pretty much next to each other.   That's why I asked in the first place. I think it's the 05. 



Why the deception then? Does Butterfly really care if he used 05 or 09c? Where is the motive?
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Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.


I am more and more convinced their "What pros use" listing is a complete lie.  If you look at the logo there is a lot of space between the DignicsXX label and the logo. I think with the 09c, the text and the logo are pretty much next to each other.   That's why I asked in the first place. I think it's the 05. 



Why the deception then? Does Butterfly really care if he used 05 or 09c? Where is the motive?

There is no deception.. it's just not accurate as pros a) change their equipment a lot b) they just list out what they know as of xx/xx/xx 
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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.


I am more and more convinced their "What pros use" listing is a complete lie.  If you look at the logo there is a lot of space between the DignicsXX label and the logo. I think with the 09c, the text and the logo are pretty much next to each other.   That's why I asked in the first place. I think it's the 05. 



Why the deception then? Does Butterfly really care if he used 05 or 09c? Where is the motive?

There is no deception.. it's just not accurate as pros a) change their equipment a lot b) they just list out what they know as of xx/xx/xx 

Butterfly JP site tends to be very up to date and accurate. Butterfly Japan heavily regulates their players equipment so when new rubber is requested it usually gets updated to the site pretty quickly. I'd bet that 09c/05 fh/bh is correct
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Originally posted by idk idk wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.


I am more and more convinced their "What pros use" listing is a complete lie.  If you look at the logo there is a lot of space between the DignicsXX label and the logo. I think with the 09c, the text and the logo are pretty much next to each other.   That's why I asked in the first place. I think it's the 05. 



Why the deception then? Does Butterfly really care if he used 05 or 09c? Where is the motive?

There is no deception.. it's just not accurate as pros a) change their equipment a lot b) they just list out what they know as of xx/xx/xx 

Butterfly JP site tends to be very up to date and accurate. Butterfly Japan heavily regulates their players equipment so when new rubber is requested it usually gets updated to the site pretty quickly. I'd bet that 09c/05 fh/bh is correct


I'm afraid you'd lose that bet.
If you rewatch the Ma Long - Franziska match (and if you look carefully) at timestamps 5.46 min. and 15.20 min. you can actually see that the red rubber is not an 09c, since the "c" letter is missing; it's a D05 on fh.
Furthermore at timestamp 34.22 min. you can see a small letter right after the numbers, so the black one has got to be an 09c.
So D09c and D05 is correct but "reversed", which is somewhat unusual.


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Originally posted by Skynet Skynet wrote:

Originally posted by idk idk wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.


I am more and more convinced their "What pros use" listing is a complete lie.  If you look at the logo there is a lot of space between the DignicsXX label and the logo. I think with the 09c, the text and the logo are pretty much next to each other.   That's why I asked in the first place. I think it's the 05. 



Why the deception then? Does Butterfly really care if he used 05 or 09c? Where is the motive?

There is no deception.. it's just not accurate as pros a) change their equipment a lot b) they just list out what they know as of xx/xx/xx 

Butterfly JP site tends to be very up to date and accurate. Butterfly Japan heavily regulates their players equipment so when new rubber is requested it usually gets updated to the site pretty quickly. I'd bet that 09c/05 fh/bh is correct


I'm afraid you'd lose that bet.
If you rewatch the Ma Long - Franziska match (and if you look carefully) at timestamps 5.46 min. and 15.20 min. you can actually see that the red rubber is not an 09c, since the "c" letter is missing; it's a D05 on fh.
Furthermore at timestamp 34.22 min. you can see a small letter right after the numbers, so the black one has got to be an 09c.
So D09c and D05 is correct but "reversed", which is somewhat unusual.



I for myself would like to know what kind of blade Wang Manyu is playing in Budapest. She used to use the Viscaria and the LGY ALC in the past, but that handle is a Stiga handle (although it somewhat resembles designwise the DHS Fang Bo and 301 series), including the blue/yellow Stiga sticker at the bottom of the handle. But maybe she is just pulling some FZD stuff (Butterfly ALC with a Stiga handle).


At 0.55 min you can also see the handle pretty clear:








Edited by Skynet - 07/22/2022 at 6:08am
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Originally posted by Skynet Skynet wrote:

Originally posted by idk idk wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.


I am more and more convinced their "What pros use" listing is a complete lie.  If you look at the logo there is a lot of space between the DignicsXX label and the logo. I think with the 09c, the text and the logo are pretty much next to each other.   That's why I asked in the first place. I think it's the 05. 



Why the deception then? Does Butterfly really care if he used 05 or 09c? Where is the motive?

There is no deception.. it's just not accurate as pros a) change their equipment a lot b) they just list out what they know as of xx/xx/xx 

Butterfly JP site tends to be very up to date and accurate. Butterfly Japan heavily regulates their players equipment so when new rubber is requested it usually gets updated to the site pretty quickly. I'd bet that 09c/05 fh/bh is correct


I'm afraid you'd lose that bet.
If you rewatch the Ma Long - Franziska match (and if you look carefully) at timestamps 5.46 min. and 15.20 min. you can actually see that the red rubber is not an 09c, since the "c" letter is missing; it's a D05 on fh.
Furthermore at timestamp 34.22 min. you can see a small letter right after the numbers, so the black one has got to be an 09c.
So D09c and D05 is correct but "reversed", which is somewhat unusual.



very interesting. Butterfly JP was right about the two rubbers but it looks like he actually flipped his paddle around then, totally unexpected  as usually 09c and 05 would be the combination for FH/BH
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Originally posted by idk idk wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Butterfly says as of July 1st he uses 09c on FH and 05 on backhand.


I am more and more convinced their "What pros use" listing is a complete lie.  If you look at the logo there is a lot of space between the DignicsXX label and the logo. I think with the 09c, the text and the logo are pretty much next to each other.   That's why I asked in the first place. I think it's the 05. 



Why the deception then? Does Butterfly really care if he used 05 or 09c? Where is the motive?

There is no deception.. it's just not accurate as pros a) change their equipment a lot b) they just list out what they know as of xx/xx/xx 

Butterfly JP site tends to be very up to date and accurate. Butterfly Japan heavily regulates their players equipment so when new rubber is requested it usually gets updated to the site pretty quickly. I'd bet that 09c/05 fh/bh is correct


Deceptive info, Nittaku yasaka donic butterfly give diffrent rubbers/blades for their sponsored players. 


Edited by mykonos96 - 08/05/2022 at 10:36am
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Anyone knows what Alexis Lebrun is using, being a Victas sponsored player...? Maybe a V20 Double Extra or a Triple Double Extra on FH (I've seen it bouncing the ball on the racket and seems a very tacky FH rubber)

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Originally posted by Claudiu84 Claudiu84 wrote:

Anyone knows what Alexis Lebrun is using, being a Victas sponsored player...? Maybe a V20 Double Extra or a Triple Double Extra on FH (I've seen it bouncing the ball on the racket and seems a very tacky FH rubber)



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Victas is the French national team sponsor, not Lebrun's. The brothers are Butterfly players.
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