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maur1010 ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 02/07/2021 Location: nsw aust Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Old thread but interesting. Coach Delay the backswing as long as possible.
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Level one qualified coach
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ZingyDNA ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: 09/19/2008 Status: Offline Points: 2373 |
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Yeah make sure you're not getting coached by a soccer player LMAO! |
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mon22 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/05/2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1174 |
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Relax
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I am a total Newb. Come at me!
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wanhao ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 07/14/2014 Location: south east asia Status: Offline Points: 122 |
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And did you switch to playing soccer??? |
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takethat ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/01/2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 237 |
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Whatever you came with, you leave with. Not representing your country. What does everyone in the UINVERSE forget the fastest? Who won that last Table Tennis Match. No one cares get out there.
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Simon_plays ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 05/02/2015 Location: Vietnam Status: Offline Points: 1031 |
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This advice comes from Japanese coach Hazime Kagimoto and were left behind after a visit to Scotland in March 1970:
"1. You can relax in the evening before a match in the company of your girl or boy friend. 2. Hasegawa is reading stories about strong men to have alone defeated 20 - 30 people. It gives him self confidence. 3. Miki had much money in his pocket and this gave him pride and self confidence." Number 3 is probably my favourite.
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Crowsfeather ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08/03/2013 Location: Thailand Status: Offline Points: 447 |
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When I was young.
Move your legs move!! move!!. Attack with every chance you have or they attack you, attack with anything spin, speed. Learn to varied loop spinny slow loop, fast hit , regular top spin loop. next step changing landing placement and ball curve. Attacking while defense > lot's of serve receiving with spin deception > push that looks like underspin but gives off topspin. Control opponent position so that you move less, but if you fail move!!!!! more. He yells at me a lot with MOVE!!!! Still remember how it feels. |
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I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud .
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berndt_mann ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/02/2015 Location: Tucson, Arizona Status: Offline Points: 1719 |
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"Why do you want to learn to walk all over again? You already know how to walk." (Zhi Yong "Rocky" Wang, former Coach, Chinese Liberation Army Team), 1991, Eastern Training Center, Columbia, Maryland, after I defeated three of the other participants at a week long clinic, rated around 1900, 1450, and 850 respectively, in best 2 out of 3 game matches during a break from practice using a compact head Hock hardbat. At the time, after a 15 year period of not playing very much competitive pong due to second shift work, I came back to the game, felt like Rip Van Winkle after experiencing hidden loose grip fh serves, speed glued rubbers, and a much more offensive oriented game than I remember playing in the mid-'70s. My experiences with speed glue for the next six years consisted of a few triumphs plus a few many more Oh My God Why Am I Doing This To My Self Moments, especially against cagey cautious Euro pippers at the World Vets'.
I did not exactly know what Coach Wang meant at the time, and after six more years of up and down play with speed glued inverted after seeing Marty Reisman play and persuading John Tannehill to take up hardbat I finally realized it was time to dance with the girl what brung me to pong in the first place. John went back to inverted to coach his son Soren, who became a 1900 level player, and from 2001-2005 I didn't do too badly, playing penhold/reverse penhold with a custom made Chinese penhold 6-ply SuperHock drywalled with British Leyland. Edited by berndt_mann - 02/07/2017 at 11:35pm |
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Setup: Mark Bellamy Master Craftsman blade, British Leyland hard rubber |
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Purett ![]() Silver Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 05/28/2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 935 |
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jab,jab,jab right hook
ups that was boxing
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rating solid 1000
moving up to 1001 |
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Baal ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() Joined: 01/21/2010 Location: unknown Status: Offline Points: 14330 |
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Who do you think you are, Ma Long?
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GSP-glamour ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09/15/2010 Location: RUSSIA Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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ABSOLUTELY !
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You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions.
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"We start tomorrow.....bring honor, dignity and a check for $100"
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LUCKYLOOP ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/27/2013 Location: Pongville USA Status: Offline Points: 2800 |
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I coach myself, work on your worst weakness until you no longer have unforced errors. Nobody likes to do that. |
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Lawson ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 05/08/2016 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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"Don't act like a machine!"
"Soft!" "Go point by pont" "Whe you smash, you have to really smash the ball and place it in the exact point of the table, where even the umpire can't see it. I want him to say: "I didn't see it" (sitting into umpire's chair and putting on a dump's face).
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wanhao ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 07/14/2014 Location: south east asia Status: Offline Points: 122 |
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"come back next week"....
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Nasche ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04/15/2016 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 155 |
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Good advise
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S.S ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11/05/2015 Location: India Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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i remember of one thing that my coach once said to us...
"remember to keep arm and wrist loose (relaxed)...but not the grip...it will help you to grt good swing resulting good shot(spinny and fast)...
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Chicobo ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04/08/2015 Location: Fort Worth Status: Offline Points: 191 |
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Had my first coaching session 3 weeks ago after self-learning for a few years. That was the first thing the coach said to me.
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ppmax ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 10/10/2007 Status: Offline Points: 272 |
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Probably, the best advice should be this:
"Son, you should give up." |
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Fehrplay ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09/14/2014 Location: The world Status: Offline Points: 390 |
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http://mobsea.co/stretching/img/Raised-Leg_Knee_Ankle_Shoulder_and_Back_Stretch.jpg I mostly focus on this one, it's important that you are holding at least 30 seconds and that you really pushing yourself even though it hurts, especially in the beginning. This have really helped me with my footwork and also mitigated my lower back pains.
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jrscatman ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/19/2008 Status: Offline Points: 4585 |
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Can you give more details about the specific exercises he recommended. Thanks in advance
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Butterfly MPS
FH: Donic Acuda S1 BH: Palio CK531A OX |
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Fehrplay ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09/14/2014 Location: The world Status: Offline Points: 390 |
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My coach has nagging on me about the importance of stretching the back of my leg and It has really made me improve my footwork lately!
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pnachtwey ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/09/2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Status: Offline Points: 2035 |
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4 years later and the advice is the still the same as above.
There have been improvements like keeping my elbow fixed, timing and being better able to respond to balls anywhere by keeping lower motions smaller, more efficient. However, the lower part is killing my legs and back. There is some advice that makes no sense but I smile and keep going. My practice partner has lesson right after me. Now we can know what we are doing wrong and can tell each other. It is just hard to always do thing right when the other guys is looping balls at you from close to the table. One good thing that helps is that I can now better recognize flaws in other peoples strokes and know how to take advantage of them. |
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NoRema ![]() Silver Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/04/2015 Location: On The Table Status: Offline Points: 564 |
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always see red when using forehand. always see black when using backhand. (if your forehand if black and backhand is red)
if you see the color of the opposite side then your stroke is severely messed up.
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Leftyy ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/14/2015 Location: Europa Status: Offline Points: 210 |
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Another advice that really have helped me is to start video tape my tournaments and also some of my practices.
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Leftyy ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/14/2015 Location: Europa Status: Offline Points: 210 |
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Stop focusing on your setup and start focus on your game! It's so true I know.
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NextLevel ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: 12/15/2011 Location: Somewhere Good Status: Offline Points: 14420 |
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Taking TT advice too literally is sometimes a player's death sentence. As Baal pointed out, sometimes the advice is intended to help you over-compensate for a technical flaw so that you get an idea of what is possible and move towards the ideal technique. And sometimes the advice isn't done justice by the short summary.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Joola Vyzaryz Trinity FH: GT BH: GT Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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pnachtwey ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/09/2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Status: Offline Points: 2035 |
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If the paddle is still accelerating it hasn't reached its maximum speed yet. I have posted the formulas for speed after impact. Acceleration isn't part of the formula. Even if you added an acceleration term its effects would be very small. If you think acceleration will increase the dwell time it will, but not in any significant way. The acceleration of the blade would need to be very fast. Faster than what people can accelerate the blade. My coach tells me to keep my strokes short by just bending at the elbow and wrist. To reach the the best paddle speed the acceleration needs to be fast but the paddle needs to be at the correct speed and the acceleration 0 when contact is made. Other tips. More spin, less speed. Wait for it. Do hit too early. Move then hit. Don't reach. Stop admiring my last shot and get back into position. |
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HappyHarry ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 01/13/2015 Location: The world Status: Offline Points: 46 |
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My coach told me to not think about the score and take one point at the time.
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Fehrplay ![]() Super Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09/14/2014 Location: The world Status: Offline Points: 390 |
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That is actually a really good tips, I have many times had problem with trying to kill the ball to early and ending up losing matches without letting the opponent make his own points..
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