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    Posted: 02/04/2011 at 3:07pm
I heard how Palio Thor's was very blade dependent. Those who've had success, can you please describe what kind of blades you used it on?  From what I've heard on how it plays, it seems like what I want, but I don't want to have to change my blade unless I can manage on what I have.

I heard how Palio Thor's was very blade dependent so I'm going to attempt to make a list of blades it has worked well on and blades that it didn't fare so well with. If you think I should move any blades from one category to another, please tell me. Thanks in advance.

Just to note, blades by Galaxy/YinHe/MilkyWay are listed at YinHe blades.

Works
1-ply Hinoki Blades
729 F-1
BBC 9-9-9
BBC 9-10-9
BBC Double Diamond
BBC Fiddler
Butterfly Cypress-S
Butterfly Innerforce ZLF
Butterfly Matsush*ta Pro Special
Butterfly Maze Off
Butterfly Photino
Butterfly Schlager Carbon
Butterfly Senkoh 90
Butterfly Timo Boll ALC
Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit
Butterfly Viscaria
DHS Hurricane Hao
DHS Hurricane King 655
Hallmark Aurora
JOOLA Wing Medium
JOOLA Wing Passion Fast
Nexy Lissom (though with vibration)
Nittaku Acoustic
Nittaku Violincello
Nittaku Violin

Palio Emperor Dragon
Palio TS3
Re-Impact Tachi
Stiga Allround Wood NCT
Stiga Allround Bengtsson
Stiga Caliber Wood
Stiga Carbokev WRB
Sword Arylate Custom (mmerkel)
Tibhar Black Carbon
Tibhar Samsonov Alpha
TSP Balsa 6.5
Xiom Ignito
Xiom V1
Xiom V1 Quad
Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive
YinHe K-4
YinHe T-2
YinHe T-6
YinHe V-1
YinHe W-1
YinHe W-6



Didn't Work
Avalox P700
Butterfly Kong LH Special
Butterfly Michael Maze
Butterfly Petr Korbel
Butterfly Senkoh 85
Butterfly Viscaria Light
Hallmark Carbon Extreme
Hinotec Carbon (Cornilleau?)
JOOLA Sheik (out of production)
Nittaku Ludeack Power Pro
Stiga Clipper CR
Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
YinHe Carbokev K-4
YinHe LQ-1
YinHe T-8



Iffy
Butterfly Innerforce ALC
Butterfly Innerforce ZLC
Butterfly Jun Mizutani
Butterfly Timo Boll ZLF
Darker 5P-2A
Darker Speed 90
OSP Virtuoso


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I have it on a slower balsa blade, BTY BalsaCarbo X3. Works like a charm.
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Best if you simply check out the thread about Thors - it's long but there are many blades described as good and not so good for Thors. If you are looking for someone to do it for you, then right now you are out of luck... 
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Best if you simply check out the thread about Thors - it's long but there are many blades described as good and not so good for Thors. If you are looking for someone to do it for you, then right now you are out of luck... 


Lol. Fair enough. I could just comb through there and make a list of blades and post it here for convenience...
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Originally posted by TheRobot99 TheRobot99 wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Best if you simply check out the thread about Thors - it's long but there are many blades described as good and not so good for Thors. If you are looking for someone to do it for you, then right now you are out of luck... 


Lol. Fair enough. I could just comb through there and make a list of blades and post it here for convenience...


I think somewhere inside that thread you will find my feeble attempt at the same thing...
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What works:
Stiga Allaround NCT
Timo Boll Spirit
1-ply hinoki jpen
Hurricane Hao
Nexy Lissom (though with vibration)

Performance great, but no feel:
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for me it did not work on the mizutani!!!
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Added an "Iffy" category.
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Works like a charm on a Nittaku Acoustic!

Does anyone know how it plays on the Timo Boll ZLF?
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It works really well on BBC 9-9-9 and 9-10-9.  It is also excellent on an old Stiga Allround Bengtsson and Palatinus OSP Virtuoso.

On Darker 5P-2A it was decent, but no synergy like it has with the old Stiga and the Virtuoso.

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I think you made a mistake - T-8 certainly didn't work!

Ilya, are you sure there is such a blade as BBC 9-9-9 - I only know of 9-10-9?
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Put Darker Speed 90 into the iffy category, I should say...
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

I think you made a mistake - T-8 certainly didn't work!

Ilya, are you sure there is such a blade as BBC 9-9-9 - I only know of 9-10-9?

I am quite certain, since I have two of them.  Call Charlie and ask him about an "ILya" blade :-)
That's the 9-9-9.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

I think you made a mistake - T-8 certainly didn't work!

Ilya, are you sure there is such a blade as BBC 9-9-9 - I only know of 9-10-9?

I am quite certain, since I have two of them.  Call Charlie and ask him about an "ILya" blade :-)
That's the 9-9-9.

ILya


Oh! I always wondered what that was. Why does Charlie give them such numeric-generic names instead of great names like Anvil or Fiddler? I dunno... 9-10-9 just doesn't sound too exciting. Maybe I should rename it into "Jimmy" or "King James" Big smile
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

I think you made a mistake - T-8 certainly didn't work!

Ilya, are you sure there is such a blade as BBC 9-9-9 - I only know of 9-10-9?

I am quite certain, since I have two of them.  Call Charlie and ask him about an "ILya" blade :-)
That's the 9-9-9.

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Oh! I always wondered what that was. Why does Charlie give them such numeric-generic names instead of great names like Anvil or Fiddler? I dunno... 9-10-9 just doesn't sound too exciting. Maybe I should rename it into "Jimmy" or "King James" Big smile

I think King James has a nice sound to it.
Anyhow, 9-9-9 is a descriptive name since it refers to ply thicknesses.

It is identical to 9-10-9, except the center ply is a little thinner giving the blade a touch more flex for mid-distance looping.

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It works very well on a yinhe (galaxy) LQ-1
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Finally got through all 47 pages of the Thor's thread. That took a while lol. Hopefully we can get a generally good trend on what does and doesn't work.
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Thank you for your hard work, TheRobot99!


I really don't want to adjust to a new FH rubber, but this thread is killing me.
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Thanks for all the work. Are you confused yet after reading all the posts?
Just one correction, the rubber worked great on my blade initially, but it was a change in the rubber characteristics (due to soap???) that made it fail, rather than not harmonizing with the blade. I would use it again on this blade in a heartbeat as it worked well for weeks.
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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

Thank you for your hard work, TheRobot99!


Thanks icontek.

Originally posted by mmerkel mmerkel wrote:

Thanks for all the work. Are you confused yet after reading all the posts?
Just one correction, the rubber worked great on my blade initially, but it was a change in the rubber characteristics (due to soap???) that made it fail, rather than not harmonizing with the blade. I would use it again on this blade in a heartbeat as it worked well for weeks.


I read about the soap and I also remember when someone tried tuning with PO and it was a disaster for that person. debraj I think it was. Hence, I still say it worked.
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...but you have my blade as not working with Thors, where I would say the blade actually work well with Thors.
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I'm sorry. I thought I put it in the right place lol. Good looks.
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I didn't like it on Virtuoso, the hard sponge of Thor's "dominates" the blade. When I block or hit hard I can feel the blade twisting.
I like it on YEO which is stiff.
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Originally posted by TheRobot99 TheRobot99 wrote:

Added an "Iffy" category.

What do you mean by "Iffy" ?


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Originally posted by TheRobot99 TheRobot99 wrote:

Finally got through all 47 pages of the Thor's thread. That took a while lol. Hopefully we can get a generally good trend on what does and doesn't work.


You put T-8 into Doesn't Work category but forgot to erase it from Works ! Big smile

Here iffy means "not here nor there",  undecided...
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I would say its iffy on the timo boll ZLF.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by TheRobot99 TheRobot99 wrote:

Finally got through all 47 pages of the Thor's thread. That took a while lol. Hopefully we can get a generally good trend on what does and doesn't work.


You put T-8 into Doesn't Work category but forgot to erase it from Works ! Big smile

Here iffy means "not here nor there",  undecided...


Thanks for catching that.
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You can add the Nexy Spear to the 'Didn't Work' category..
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Originally posted by TheRobot99 TheRobot99 wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by TheRobot99 TheRobot99 wrote:

Finally got through all 47 pages of the Thor's thread. That took a while lol. Hopefully we can get a generally good trend on what does and doesn't work.


You put T-8 into Doesn't Work category but forgot to erase it from Works ! Big smile

Here iffy means "not here nor there",  undecided...


Thanks for catching that.


Yeah... and you still didn't fix it. Anyways I went and edited that post - hope you don't mind
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while i am playing thors on V-1, pl note yinhe v1 doesn't comply with the key requirements of thors.

-it has a thick top layer of hinoki, and hence not hard.

-it is fairly fast, and not off-. 

i think this works and doesn't work is kind of individual taste. because i didn't like it combined with yeo... and i thingk thats more because i didn't like yeo as a blade.
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