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    Posted: 03/20/2011 at 11:18pm
will take place this wednesday and thursday in guangzhou starting at 2:00 pm, local time, or 2 am ET or 7 am CET.  it will be livestreamed at ITTV.

here's the player list for the men:

Nr NAME ASSOC. DOB GENDER WR MAR 11
1 BOLL Timo GER 8-Mar-81 M 1
2 WANG Hao CHN 15-Dec-83 M 2
3 MIZUTANI Jun JPN 9-Jun-89 M 7
4 SAMSONOV Vladimir BLR 17-Apr-76 M 8
5 JOO Se Hyuk KOR 20-Jan-80 M 10
6 CHUANG Chih-Yuan TPE 2-Apr-81 M 13
7 MAZE Michael DEN 1-Sep-81 M 18
8 TANG Peng HKG 4-Feb-81 M 19

and for the women:

Nr NAME ASSOC. DOB GENDER WR Mar 11
1 LI Xiaoxia CHN 16-Jan-88 W 2
2 FENG Tianwei SIN 31-Aug-86 W 6
3 KIM Kyung Ah KOR 25-May-77 W 7
4 FUKUHARA Ai JPN 1-Nov-88 W 8
5 LI Jiao NED 15-Jan-73 W 13
6 WU Jiaduo GER 19-Sep-77 W 16
7 SHEN Yanfei ESP 24-Dec-79 W 19
8 JIANG Huajun HKG 8-Oct-84 W 25

funny, looking at the women, though only 1 of the 8 represent china, only 2 of the 8 are actually not chinese.

anyhow, here's the schedule:

GMT + 8:00
Main Draw Local GMT TV Table Table 2 TV itTV Tables
23-Mar-10 14:00 6:00 WS QF 1 MS QF 1 TV 2
14:45 6:45 MS QF 2 WS QF 2 TV 2
15:30 7:30 WS QF 3 MS QF 3 TV 2
16:15 8:15 MS QF 4 WS QF 4 TV 2
17:00 9:00
18:30 10:30 WS SF 1 TV 1
** 19:15 11:15 Spec. Pairs (SF) TV 1
** 19:30 11:30 MS SF 1 TV 1
** 20:15 12:15 Paulini (2 songs) TV 1
** 20:30 12:30 WS SF 2 TV 1
** 21:15 13:15 Spec. Pairs (SF) TV 1
** 21:30 13:30 MS SF 2 TV 1
Main Draw Local GMT TV Table Tables
24-Mar-10 19:30 11:30 WS F WS F followed by Paulini TV 1
** 20:30 12:30 Spec. Pairs (Final) TV 1
** 20:45 12:45 MS F MS F followed by Paulini TV 1
** 21:45 13:45 TV

and the ITTF's VW cup page is here:

http://www.ittf.com/competitions/competitions2.asp?Competition_ID=2020&category=VWcup


enjoy!





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Looking forward to seeing how Maze plays after his injury.
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Wang Hao please show them how to play table tennis! :P
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me too, but i find it strange that right when he comes back from a long stopage, hes chosen for such a big event like this... 
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Maze is always good value, win or lose he is entertaining, a crowd puller, I guess the organisers realise this.
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Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Wang Hao please show them how to play table tennis! :P


he tweaked his back at the chinese team trials 2 weeks back, so, i wonder how effective he'll be this time around.

so, if timo is playing well, he has a good chance to win.

as for maze, he must be totally out of shape, so i can't see him beating anybody anytime soon.


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I would go for Timo to win with current form/lack of injuries.  And I am sure Michael Maze will put in good performances on his comeback, this is just the start,  he will be determined to make up for lost time.
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the draws have been posted:

here's the men's draw:

 1    BOLL Timo GER    
 14:00 - 23/3/2011   Table 2   -:
   
 2    TANG Peng HKG    
 3    CHUANG Chih-Yuan TPE    
 14:45 - 23/3/2011   Table 1   -:
   
 4    MIZUTANI Jun JPN    
 5    SAMSONOV Vladimir BLR    
 15:30 - 23/3/2011   Table 2   -:
   
 6    JOO Se Hyuk KOR    
 7    MAZE Michael DEN    
 16:15 - 23/3/2011   Table 1   -:
   
 8    WANG Hao CHN  


what a shame!!  after the long layoff, maze draws wang in the 1st round!!  i guess he's hoping wang's back is still hurting... 

anyhow, here's the women's draw:

 1    LI Xiaoxia CHN    
 15:30 - 23/3/2011   Table 1   -:
   
 2    SHEN Yanfei ESP    
 3    JIANG Huajun HKG    
 14:00 - 23/3/2011   Table 1   -:
   
 4    FUKUHARA Ai JPN    
 5    KIM Kyung Ah KOR    
 14:45 - 23/3/2011   Table 2   -:
   
 6    WU Jiaduo GER    
 7    LI Jiao NED    
 16:15 - 23/3/2011   Table 2   -:
   
 8    FENG Tianwei SIN  



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Pihh, Timo avoided Joo Se Hyuk again, instead Wang Hao should face him and hurt his back again.
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Timo will beat peng, than mizutani. Wang will beat maze than samsonov so it'll be a timo hao final I guess
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also, CCTV5 will show some of it.  they won't stay on for the whole thing, though.

they will start their coverage at tomorrow 2 pm, local time, or 2 am ET, 7 am CET, but they will only stay on for 2 hours.  and then they will show something else on tape-delay thursday at 9:00 am, local time, or 9 pm ET wednesday night or 2 am CET thursday morning.

as for day 2, i dunno what they're gonna do...
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Originally posted by Vladovich Vladovich wrote:

Pihh, Timo avoided Joo Se Hyuk again, instead Wang Hao should face him and hurt his back again.
 
i bet for Samsonov against Joo. Samsonov is a machine against defenders.
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Easy path to the finals for Timo.  I hope Joo gets pass Samsanov and Wang Hao pulls out due to injury.  Timo Joo in the finals and Joo wins!Big smile
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WH beat Maze 4-1, Maze played well under the circumstances, some typically outrageous shotmaking from him, some great backhands but didn't use his FH much -   he did look as though he may still be injured, certainly not 100% fit. Hopefully a step in the right direction though!

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Here are some videos:

Men:

CHUANG Chih-Yuan TPE vs MIZUTANI Jun JPN

http://www.fileserve.com/file/ZgvJVZg

MAZE Michael DEN vs WANG Hao CHN

http://www.fileserve.com/file/vGSP8VX

Vladimir SAMSONOV BLR vs WANG Hao CHN
 

Women:

JIANG Huajun HKG vs FUKUHARA Ai JPN

http://www.fileserve.com/file/bDhKrZF

LI Xiaoxia CHN vs SHEN Yanfei ESP

http://www.fileserve.com/file/phUFN7s

WU Jiaduo GER vs LI Jiao NED
 
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CHILA Patrick/ROSSKOPF Joerg
 
CHEN Xinhua/GUO Yuehua
 
SAIVE Philippe/STRUSE Nicole
 
SAIVE Jean-Michel/APPELGREN Mikael


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VW Cup 2011: Wang Hao-Michael Maze
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=946qfKbw5QM

VW Cup 2011: Jun Mizutani-Chuang Chih Yuan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1HD8biwO6Y

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Huh, watching the Maze match atm, I dont remember him being so backhand dominant before his injury, he's stepping around to take most serves and doing aggressive backhand loops almost any chance he gets, at least so as I've gotten, also I dont remember him having that huge tattoo covering his forehand and another on his bicep on his left arm and a small one on his right wrist.Cant really make out what they are on the video. And he seems to be going for the Timo/Tiago style hair with the little horn thing in the front... I wonder if the tats are real or not, if so that must be what he spent all his time on while he was away, and he can kiss his modeling career goodbye.
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I noticed the tattoos as well, so disappointingThumbs Down  I guess if he wasn't already seen as the "bad boy" of table tennis, he will be for sure now.  Maybe he is really trying to embrace the title of the "David Beckham of table tennis."
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Originally posted by Carbon TT Carbon TT wrote:

I noticed the tattoos as well, so disappointingThumbs Down  I guess if he wasn't already seen as the "bad boy" of table tennis, he will be for sure now.  Maybe he is really trying to embrace the title of the "David Beckham of table tennis."


I'm not so disappointed as curious, I want to know what they are and why he got them. I can only imagine they have some significance being on his playing arm. I thought of doing something similar a year or so ago before I left New Orleans, getting a tattoo on my left (playing) arm. I had the design custom made and ready, knew a couple guys who were covered in tattoos at my school who had connections for good/cheap guy to go to, just chickened out. It's not like ear rings where you can just take em out if you get tired of them, or long hair which you can cut off...
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When I injured my ankle and played, I mostly used backhand to play. Playing forehand requires a lot fine movement. And went for bigger shots like Maze did. I don't really like the tattoo on the arm. It looked like some sort of lamp. The only other table tennis player I have seen with a tattoo is Stefanova. 
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Not sure what the big deal is about his tattoos. Give me a break, each person is free to do with their body what they want. I believe the one on his forearm is the European trophy with some japanese style star burst.
 
About his PLAY, well that was a hard match to come back to. I was rooting for the guy but he wasn't hitting his opening shots and wasn't moving well. maybe next tourney.
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Originally posted by bOOm_cORNr_sHOt bOOm_cORNr_sHOt wrote:

Not sure what the big deal is about his tattoos. Give me a break, each person is free to do with their body what they want. I believe the one on his forearm is the European trophy with some japanese style star burst.
 
About his PLAY, well that was a hard match to come back to. I was rooting for the guy but he wasn't hitting his opening shots and wasn't moving well. maybe next tourney.


That would be hilarious if it was, back when I had delusions of grandure about my future, I dreamed of doing the same thing, some growing pattern of symbols/trophies or such for tournament wins. Nowdays my dreams go about "Man, it would be awesome if I could get into the finals in the B flight or something if I ever played in a tournament again..."

Yeah, Wang Hao seemed comfortable just letting him miss shots, beating him with his own errors, even during the first game, Maze was going for broke on seemingly every shot and of course missed more often than made it and thus lost.
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Maze put in a far better performance against WH than Samsonov.  WH didnt look in great shape himself, maybe he is also carrying the back injury. He played maybe 1 shot that made me go 'wow', Maze 6 or 7.  Re the Tattoos, whatever they signify, why not? 
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Michael Maze was in 2004, at the age of 22 the Europe top 12 winner.
He was the next European top player and maybe world top.
That feeling developed after he reached the World Champ 1/2 final.
...but then, all misery started, he began to struggle with backage and serious injuries.
He had those problems for over 1.6 years, so his potential was smaller to become top 5 player or higher.
But he faught himself out and became European Champion some years after,
it looked like he was going the same direction again, a new chance...
 
Then again a table fell on his foot and he was out for over a year again.
I have huge respect for him that he IS playing the tournament again now,
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It is not like Maze tried to use his BH more, but IMO, Wang Hao played to his BH, a standard tactic for Chinese players against left-handed players... Maze is definitely one of the most talented European players but his shot selections is baffling at times. Seems like he mostly choose the hardest shot to make just to look spectacular. If he keeps it more simple and do what must be done, he'll get better result. He can showboat in friendly events or something...
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After being out so long, I just hope he can recover 100% and stay injury free for the next few years to give himself chances of more tournaments
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I still have a bad ankle from a football match I played like 15 years ago. So to hope he'll be back 100% is almost impossible, let's just hope he can stay match fit. I always like to watch him play. He needs to sort out his game though. He needs to play more like in the only European Championship he won. Closer to the table and use his FH more..
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