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no Chinese and Timo participating LOL
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Dima, baum, franziscka, joo, mizutani, groth, maze are in? XD
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Originally posted by TTNoobie TTNoobie wrote:

no Chinese and Timo participating LOL

It sounds silly, but if you removed the Chinese from a major tournament that featured all the other top players, you really have no idea who would win.  Timo Boll or JSH would be the obvious favorites, but any of the next 20 or so players in line would have a good chance of winning that tournament.

The Chinese are simply too good right now.  I think Japan, S. Korea and Germany have enough strong young players that they will keep solid spots in the top rankings, but they won't be serious challenges like they were in the past.  I think they're mostly going to disappear off the radar much as Sweden has in international events.
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Originally posted by bravefest bravefest wrote:

Originally posted by TTNoobie TTNoobie wrote:

no Chinese and Timo participating LOL

It sounds silly, but if you removed the Chinese from a major tournament that featured all the other top players, you really have no idea who would win.  Timo Boll or JSH would be the obvious favorites, but any of the next 20 or so players in line would have a good chance of winning that tournament.

The Chinese are simply too good right now.  I think Japan, S. Korea and Germany have enough strong young players that they will keep solid spots in the top rankings, but they won't be serious challenges like they were in the past.  I think they're mostly going to disappear off the radar much as Sweden has in international events.

It's always quite hard for one single country to maintain such dominance for a long time, sooner or later the Chinese techniques and training methods will be studied thoroughly and the world will eventually catch up. This, however is something that's probably 5-10 years into the future...
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Blahness, I hope that is the case.
In fact, I hope there is atleast 4 countries that can be number 1 at any given time
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why hasnt timo been competing at all this year?
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Originally posted by martian22 martian22 wrote:

why hasnt timo been competing at all this year?

avoiding back injuries for sure, this time will be the last chance for him
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Originally posted by martian22 martian22 wrote:

why hasnt timo been competing at all this year?


He has been competing, just not on the World Tour.

His main reason for playing in Japan is to secure a good seeding for the Olympics (since Mizutani, Chuang and Joo are getting closer), i.e. top 3 or 4 in singles and top 2 in the team event.
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Originally posted by martian22 martian22 wrote:

why hasnt timo been competing at all this year?


He has been competing, just not on the World Tour.

His main reason for playing in Japan is to secure a good seeding for the Olympics (since Mizutani, Chuang and Joo are getting closer), i.e. top 3 or 4 in singles and top 2 in the team event.

sorry thats what i meant, why hasnt he been playing on the pro tour?
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lol ittf and its umpires are a big joke.  Match between Ishikawa and Liu Jia,  Liu Jia up 3-2 in games,  and Ishikawa was issued a yellow card.  6th game and Ishikawa is up 11-10,  and the umpire issues Ishikawa a RED card for kicking the ball,  this gives Liu Jia the point and the service!  WOW  but Ishikawa starts crying(!) and since it's in Japan the crowd gets into it and some Japanese official gets called in to sort things out.   Unbelievable, the red card gets revoked and Ishikawa eventually ends up winning to tie the match at 3-3!

This is the pro leagues?  Start crying and a red card in a crucial moment can get revoked?  Ittf is a joke league
 
and Ishikawa wins the 7th game,  so unprofessional,  I wonder if Maze starts crying about a red card it'll get revokedLOL


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Is the iTV player not working at the moment... or is it just me?
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yay Timo Boll is out!! go joo se hyuk!! Joo will probably have to play Koki Niwa which should be interesting
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Timo Boll-Burov Viacheslav
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Too bad we cannot see how Timo lost to the young Korean player.
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Lots of exciting match-ups tomorrow, for example:

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• A. Shibaev Vs K. Niwa

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who beat timo?
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Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

who beat timo?

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Quote Back from the brink in the opening round, Korea’s 20 year old Jung Young Sik caused the sensation of the whole tournament and one of the biggest upsets of the year, on the evening of Friday 8th June, in the city of Kobe. In the second round of the Men’s Singles event at the GAC GROUP 2012 ITTF World Tour Japan Open, he beat top seed, Germany’s Timo Boll in a spell-binding duel. Jung Young Sik won in seven games (9-11, 12-10, 11-6, 3-11, 17-15, 9-11, 11-7) to record what is certainly the very best win of his young fledgling and undoubtedly exciting career. World Ranking Currently Jung Young Sik stands at no.120 on the Men’s World Rankings. Conversely Timo Boll, who has occupied the top spot, is at no.6; the statistics underline the magnitude of the victory. Downward Trend Furthermore, the win halts what has been a downward trend in recent times; in September 2010 Jung Young Sik stood at no.34 on the Men’s World Rankings; since that time a series of disappointing result has seen him consistently fall down the list. On the third day of play in Kobe he put matters to rights; it was a day that belonged to Jung Young Sik, a day when the crucial points went his way, something that had not been happening for some 18 months. Three Matches He played three matches in the day. In the second round of the Under 21 Men’s Singles event he beat Japan’s Yuto Muramatsu by the very narrowest of seven game margins (5-11, 16-14, 11-9, 11-4, 8-11, 10-12, 12-10); then in the first round of the Men’s Singles event, he recovered from a three games to nil deficit to beat a second Japanese player in the guise of Taku Takakiwa (2-11, 9-11, 8-11, 11-9, 11-6, 11-7, 11-6). Confidence Grew Win a close match and confidence grows; it was never more true than in the case of Jung Young Sik. “He was a little afraid before he played Timo Boll today”, said Kim Taek Soo who had side courtside in the role of coach. “I told him not to worry, just go out there and play; I told him it didn’t matter whether he won or lost.” Relaxed Player Certainly, the advice given by Kim Taek Soo paid dividends; it was a relaxed Jung Young Sik in action. “In the match, Jung Young Sik was able to read the reverse services of Timo Boll and he was able to become involved in the rallies”, added Kim Taek Soo. “The problem playing Timo Boll, and I’ve experienced the problem, is that there is such a lot of spin on his first three attacks; if you can counter topspin those attacks then you have a chance.” Jung Young Sik was able to counter top spin; not only counter top spin but counter top spin with aggression. First Win Over Top Ten Player “I played Timo in 2010 at the Polish Open and lost four-one”, said Jung Young Sik. “Today when it came to the seventh game, it was my third seventh game of the day I felt relaxed; it’s the first time I’ve beaten a top ten ranked player.” It could be the first of many; there is no place for Jung Young Sik in the Korean team for the London 2012 Olympic Games but sure Rio de Janeiro in 2016 beckons?


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Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

who beat timo?
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Timo Boll:   #4
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That's one hack of an upset.
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Jung Young Sik is ranked 120 in ITTF rankings
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Jung Young Sik is ranked 120 in ITTF rankings
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Timo Boll is ranked #6 in ITTF.
A huge upset.
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Originally posted by riker71 riker71 wrote:

Jung Young Sik is ranked 120 in ITTF rankings
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Timo Boll is ranked #6 in ITTF.
A huge upset.


Of course, was just pointing out the difference with ITTF and ratings Central - Korean had nothing to lose, as mentioned above has been ranked 34 not so long ago, great win for him and opens the tournament right up for the others
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Timo can't even win a competition when there are no Chinese there - doesn't bode well for the Olympics...
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nah, ma long losing to lee sang su and koki niwa were bigger upsets
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