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2012 Koltsovo Russia Open (ms-R32) XU Xin - VLASOV Grigory [Full/Short Form]



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Men QF

 1    XU Xin CHN    
 19:45 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 2    YAN An CHN    
 3    FANG Bo CHN    
 19:45 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 4    SKACHKOV Kirill RUS    
 5    KARAKASEVIC Aleksandar SRB    
 19:00 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 6    PAYKOV Mikhail RUS    
 7    MURAMATSU Yuto JPN    
 19:00 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 8    ZHOU Yu CHN    

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 1    FENG Yalan CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 2    NOSKOVA Yana RUS    
 3    WEN Jia CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 4    CHEN Meng CHN    
 5    ZHU Yuling CHN    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 6    CHANG Chenchen CHN    
 7    SILBEREISEN Kristin GER    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 8    PAVLOVICH Viktoria BLR  

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In all fairness, this is CNT junior team, and a pity that "rest of the worlds" best is not here.

I would love to see CNT junior team VS rest of the world. It is like seeing a young Ma Lin vs the world champ JO Waldner, one has youth, the other has experience.
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Xu Xin vs Aleksey Liventsov
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Sachie Shigemoto vs Polina Mikhailova
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Kinda sad that Hou Yingchao couldn't get out of the qualifiers - would have liked to see more of his matches.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Kinda sad that Hou Yingchao couldn't get out of the qualifiers - would have liked to see more of his matches.


Yes, but that is his own fault. It is ridiculous that the player of his level cannot advance out of the qualification group at such a low-level ProTour tournament.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:


Yes, but that is his own fault. It is ridiculous that the player of his level cannot advance out of the qualification group at such a low-level ProTour tournament.
 
Agreed, but unfortunately, his loss isn't posted so we can only speculate as to what happened.  He destroyed his opponent in the match he won.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Kinda sad that Hou Yingchao couldn't get out of the qualifiers - would have liked to see more of his matches.

Same here.  I guess there's a reason we don't see him play many international events.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Women QF

 1    FENG Yalan CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 2    NOSKOVA Yana RUS    
 3    WEN Jia CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 4    CHEN Meng CHN    
 5    ZHU Yuling CHN    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 6    CHANG Chenchen CHN    
 7    SILBEREISEN Kristin GER    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 8    PAVLOVICH Viktoria BLR  

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Let's say the match time is:  17:30 --- 15/9/2012 (The very first one, Feng Yalan.)
Question:  What will be the Date and Time, in terms of US east coast's time?
 
Thanks in advance.


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Women QF

 1    FENG Yalan CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 2    NOSKOVA Yana RUS    
 3    WEN Jia CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 4    CHEN Meng CHN    
 5    ZHU Yuling CHN    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 6    CHANG Chenchen CHN    
 7    SILBEREISEN Kristin GER    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 8    PAVLOVICH Viktoria BLR  

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Let's say the match time is:  17:30 --- 15/9/2012 (The very first one, Feng Yalan.)
Question:  What will be the Date and Time, in terms of US east coast's time?
 
Thanks in advance.


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Originally posted by thepongcast thepongcast wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Kinda sad that Hou Yingchao couldn't get out of the qualifiers - would have liked to see more of his matches.
 

Same here.  I guess there's a reason we don't see him play many international events.

This might be the reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UbuIwSXAn7U#t=555s Deciding championship match in the 2010 Chinese Super League. He had 4 match points against Joo Se Hyuk, but Joo won 6 points in a row, + the next set, and consequently the match and championship for his team. 



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Haven't seen this player, Zhou Yu, played in the international arena before.
Came out of nowhere, Zhou Yu beat the #2 seed (WR #37) Gacina Andrej  4 -- 0.
 
So, there are some unknown Chinese players not in the ITTF world top 100 but their playing skill is right up there.  Oh, btw, just found out that Zhou Yu is very young.


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Zhou Yu is one of the future talent of China.
Have been in CNT B team for some time and appearing more in the A team line up - ie Olympic close trainings as practice partners.

These are the future of CNT - so for the ones that think Ma Long and ZJK will last forever or win world titles for the next 8 years, please reconsider, it is not as easy as after these groups of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, Yang An, Shang Kun etc, in 2 years you will have another "list" of possible champions


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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Zhou Yu is one of the future talent of China.
Have been in CNT B team for some time and appearing more in the A team line up - ie Olympic close trainings as practice partners.

These are the future of CNT - so for the ones that think Ma Long and ZJK will last forever or win world titles for the next 8 years, please reconsider, it is not as easy as after these groups of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, Yang An, Shang Kun etc, in 2 years you will have another "list" of possible champions


I think he was in the semi-finals of the last Junior World Champs.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Zhou Yu is one of the future talent of China.
Have been in CNT B team for some time and appearing more in the A team line up - ie Olympic close trainings as practice partners.

These are the future of CNT - so for the ones that think Ma Long and ZJK will last forever or win world titles for the next 8 years, please reconsider, it is not as easy as after these groups of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, Yang An, Shang Kun etc, in 2 years you will have another "list" of possible champions


I think he was in the semi-finals of the last Junior World Champs.


Yeah, but somehow the best Chinese players either don't go to Junior events or don't perform well at they youth, tend to peak (males) after 20 yrs old to 22yrs old or so. Its like a super high jump from junior to mens in a matter of a few years. Some how the "Euro" juniors are not jumping that easily - I wonder why is the case.....
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Zhou Yu is one of the future talent of China.
Have been in CNT B team for some time and appearing more in the A team line up - ie Olympic close trainings as practice partners.

These are the future of CNT - so for the ones that think Ma Long and ZJK will last forever or win world titles for the next 8 years, please reconsider, it is not as easy as after these groups of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, Yang An, Shang Kun etc, in 2 years you will have another "list" of possible champions


I think he was in the semi-finals of the last Junior World Champs.


Yeah, but somehow the best Chinese players either don't go to Junior events or don't perform well at they youth, tend to peak (males) after 20 yrs old to 22yrs old or so. Its like a super high jump from junior to mens in a matter of a few years. Some how the "Euro" juniors are not jumping that easily - I wonder why is the case.....

i wonder where is yin han he was top cadet fomer number 1 and he defeated koki several times he must be in a long term training program, i ve seen many pics of him in the chinese magazine must be  very talented
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Tomorrow, Muramatsu Yuto will play Zhou Yu.  Should be an interesting match.
 
Muramatsu Yuto: The impressive young Japanese defensive player.
Zhou Yu:  The young Chinese player (an attacker) who just beat #2 seed (4:0).
 
(What is Muramatsu's backhand rubber, LP?  He gives attackers lots of headache.)
 
Hard to predict who is going to win.


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Yeah, but somehow the best Chinese players either don't go to Junior events or don't perform well at they youth, tend to peak (males) after 20 yrs old to 22yrs old or so. Its like a super high jump from junior to mens in a matter of a few years. Some how the "Euro" juniors are not jumping that easily - I wonder why is the case.....


I think you have it backwards.  What really happens is that the youngsters are good, but the national team is full, so they wait their turn.  Most of them play the junior events if they do when they are much younger than the competition.  Koki Niwa could likely be a has-been if he was on the Chinese national team.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Tomorrow, Muramatsu Yuto will play Zhou Yu.  Should be an interesting match.
 
Muramatsu Yuto: The impressive young Japanese defensive player.
Zhou Yu:  The young Chinese player (an attacker) who just beat #2 seed (4:0).
 
(What is Muramatsu's backhand rubber, LP?  He gives attackers lots of headache.)
 
Hard to predict who is going to win.

Yuto has a big advantage of experience in this, as it is Zhou Yu's first ever Pro Tour. Zhou is the better player though, I see him winning by 4-2 or 4-1 despite the nervousness.


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Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle
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Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.
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Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.


And the 2nd, this is what I expected except Zhou doesnt seem to have any nerves here
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Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:


Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.
And the 2nd, this is what I expected except Zhou doesnt seem to have any nerves here


And the 3rd as well.
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Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:


Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.
And the 2nd, this is what I expected except Zhou doesnt seem to have any nerves here


And the 3rd as well.
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Zhou Yu just pounded the ball harder - too much power for Muramatsu to handle,
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:


Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.
And the 2nd, this is what I expected except Zhou doesnt seem to have any nerves here


And the 3rd as well.
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Zhou Yu just pounded the ball harder - too much power for Muramatsu to handle,


zhous raw power is why i knew yuto would lose. i did think hed have a few tricks up his sleeve to steal a game but ZY dictated from the first to last point
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Skachkov lost to Fang Bo 1-4. He had 4 (!) setpoints in the 5th, lost them all and lost the set and match. Too bad.

So now it is

Xu Xin vs Fang Bo
Mikhail Paykov vs Zhou Yu

Final is going to be: Xu Xin vs Zhou Yu, I am pretty sure...
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