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I will never forget the 1st time I tried a Speed 90. It was metalone who let many members try his own around 2010. He put on a Tenergy 05 black 1.9mm on one side and the blade visited many members including myself. The pairing with that rubber was phenomenal. I like 1.8 or 1.9 on 1-ply blade since then, I feel like more sponge tames the blade's feel. The topsheet of 05 with thinner sponge than max is ideal on 1-ply. 

Did anybody try Dignics 09c 1.9mm on a 1-ply hinoki blade? it should be no less fantastic.


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Purchased Kokutaku Weizhou No. 1 Super 3008. Shake hand FL. 9mm. 109g! Only 2 left at the shop and the lighter one's grains were sloping. 109g had straight grains. Made a mistake with the rubbers, Victas Triple Double Extra max and Kokutaku G-10 red sponge max. Total weight 210g/210+g, heavy! However, didn't feel heavy when playing. Rather the issue was with the rubbers. Very controlled set-up; slow. No hinoki feel! However, I was able to return many balls back to the table but easier for opponent to block my smashes. I guess I'll use it to improve my techniques before replacing them with faster rubbers, maybe back to H3NPBS40 and D80 or D80 and O7. Else, back to T25, per my previous Nittaku Jpen. 
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

I will never forget the 1st time I tried a Speed 90. It was metalone who let many members try his own around 2010. He put on a Tenergy 05 black 1.9mm on one side and the blade visited many members including myself. The pairing with that rubber was phenomenal. I like 1.8 or 1.9 on 1-ply blade since then, I feel like more sponge tames the blade's feel. The topsheet of 05 with thinner sponge than max is ideal on 1-ply. 

Did anybody try Dignics 09c 1.9mm on a 1-ply hinoki blade? it should be no less fantastic.


Yes, I have D09c 1.9mm on one of my blades. Works great. I also use Globe 999 national (supposedly Smile). For my level the Speed 90 is so fast and direct that there's no need to boost any 'Chinese-type' rubbers.
I have tried H3, G999, T05, T05H, D80, D05, D09c. I found T05H the most fun and D09c the most reliable.
By reliable, I mean that it's the rubber that best allows me to get the ball on the table when making those awkward, difficult half-strokes when under pressure. That's probably why so many players have it on the backhand side.


Edited by Tinykin - 09/07/2021 at 7:32am
>65yo, presently overweight rather than obese.
Darker Speed 90 (x3) with various rubber combinations.
(Present favourite)- Darker 5p-2A, 5ply Hinoki blade with T05H/T05H

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Yes, I have D09c 1.9mm on one of my blades. Works great. I also use Globe 999 national (supposedly Smile). For my level the Speed 90 is so fast and direct that there's no need to boost any 'Chinese-type' rubbers.
I have tried H3, G999, T05, T05H, D80, D05, D09c. I found T05H the most fun and D09c the most reliable.
By reliable, I mean that it's the rubber that best allows me to get the ball on the table when making those awkward, difficult half-strokes when under pressure. That's probably why so many players have it on the backhand side.
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How is T05H most fun?

Rubbers in consideration for the Kokutaku 3008 are: 
FH: H3NPBS40, O7Guang/Ying, Aibiss, D80, T05H, R53, BlueGrip C1/C2
BH: H8-80, O7Guang/Ying/Tour, T25, R53/R48, PK50

I have not tried D09c but I heard that it is 'mushy' for a hard rubber?
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How do you put the quote in a box?

Between, my other blades are:
Septear: H3NPBS40 and O7Guang
Hibi-O Tour: O7Ying

Lessons learnt of the Hinoki:
- 7-ply ≠ 1-ply
- 1-ply Kokutaku ≠ 1-ply Nittaku ≠ 1-ply Xiom

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