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Yesterday with that setup I played with competitive people both better than me and of course it did not help grabbing the characteristics of the blade. Today I played for an hour with a clubmate a bit lower than me in matches but super consistent in practice as she gets coaching all the time; after that I spent 1.5 hours with a guy 300 rating points higher than me and we just hit, loop from both wings all the time. SWEET DAY!
The VC will work; there is nothing uncontrollable with that blade and it delivers quite linearly when hitting through. I am sold. It took time but tonight was the revelation: it really is good stuff.
I thought the blade favored 2.0 but with max on fh it was just finer than ever, nothing to say there, especially since it is new. The surprise came from a 1/2 dead Spinart on the bh: the sponge feels almost mushy on brush strokes but it really offers maximum control in return. I never tried a new Spinart and that should be explored more: 1.9 Spinart on the BH people? any out there?
The divine feel of the all wood Violin is gone but the solidness and rebound went up a notch or two; above all, from the typical 5-ply all wood, the transition won't be hard --> NOTE that I chose 90g for my VC but maybe a 83 to 85g one if available might offer an even easier transition.
more to come for sure in a more formal review.




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Sounds like you are trying hard to make it work, which is a good thing, it's how we reach a new height Smile.  From what described the blade seem to have similar characteristic as the Stiga Offensive Carbon,which I think works best when ream up with medium hard rubber like T05, BF M2, etc...
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Yes, I just can't believe it cannot work because the carbon is thin, the composition without it has proven right for a 5-ply and adding 2 plies composite only adds stability and a bit a rigidity/stiffness requiring more committed strokes; regular violin finesse will have to be even finer in exchange for some shots not coming back anymore-the reason I wanted the VC-  that's the deal.
I was a fool thinking I was good enough to use unboosted OVA max and I lost a night; then the 2nd night I practiced in a way even warm up shots were competitive; only yesterday could I really get a sense of the blade and I am finally happy with it.
I bought 2 brand new R47 2.0 from janekb and those will be my next setup, just like when I started my R47 adventure on a regular Violin.

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I am sure plenty of people go through the same kind of bumps with a new blade; they just do not report them, do not share their views in real time, only one formal review after several sessions. Maybe that's what I should do instead of VC blogging.
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I enjoy your live blogging :)
I see you _really_ want VC to work for you.

Personally, I lost a bit of interest in the blade when you wrote "The divine feel of the all wood Violin is gone". That was a hard hit, though it didn't come unexpected: quite the opposite, it's in line with similar impressions that people got from the Acoustic Carbon Outer.

Maybe I should wait a few more years for Nittaku to release Violin Carbon Inner LG (if they ever do), or a 7-ply version of Violin. Or maybe I should simply be happy with Nexy Arche, which is the blade that comes closest so far to a slightly stiffer and faster Violin. It doesn't have the same feeling or the same perfect handle, but somehow something just clicked when I played with it first, and I'm going back to it again and again after having tried other blades.
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be careful a few more dark thoughts like this one and next thing you know you'll play with an Apolonia lol.  
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

be careful a few more dark thoughts like this one and next thing you know you'll play with an Apolonia lol.  

No way: it's composite, it's Butterfly, it's expensive, and I don't like the idea of playing a blade named after someone because I'm still working towards having a blade named after me :o)

Seriously, I've got a gorgeous handmade blade that is built to be an improved Violin that I've played again and again over the last months, wanting to like it at all costs. The feeling is solid and inspires confidence, the control is great, the handle is close to perfect, just... it's a tad more head heavy than I like, and the feeling is more muted. In summary, it's closer to an Acoustic rather than Violin.
This is why, each time after a training session I'm convinced that I can keep it as my main blade, if I play one last set with Arche or Violin, the magic is gone again and I know it's time to sell it.
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Yesterday I received R47 bl and R42 red, both in 2.0 and glued them on today on the VC. Just bouncing the ball the R42 feels extremely good on that blade, like a perfect match for a not too soft not too hard feel; the R47 is no harder than expected. The good news is the weight: I have 6 grams worth of handle grip and the total weight is 186g, the blade being 90g so we are really good there weightwise with 2.0 on both sides. I am getting better at using the minimum amount of Tearmender, a very thin coat on sponge and blade is enough and total won't exceed 4gr. Needless to say I am very hopeful about that setup, especially the switch to R42 on the bh that I will try for the 1st time. Who knows, maybe I'll get even more insight down the road and end up with R42 max on the fh but I doubt it since R47 on the fh never let me down so far.
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I am done testing that beauty. I am going back to all wood Violin so I can play instead of trying to finish anything off in a hurry. Yes, that's what carbon blades makes me do: rush; then my game goes to limbo! Wink
I am selling one of my 2 VC right there and it comes with 2 almost new rubbers, R47 and R42, both in 2.0. Thumbs Up


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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I am done testing that beauty. I am going back to all wood Violin so I can play instead of trying to finish anything off in a hurry. Yes, that's what carbon blades makes me do: rush; then my game goes to limbo! Wink
I am selling one of my 2 VC right there and it comes with 2 almost new rubbers, R47 and R42, both in 2.0. Thumbs Up

If only it had the large handle and flared, I'd be all over it, like white on rice!
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Originally posted by clannewton clannewton wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I am done testing that beauty. I am going back to all wood Violin so I can play instead of trying to finish anything off in a hurry. Yes, that's what carbon blades makes me do: rush; then my game goes to limbo! Wink
I am selling one of my 2 VC right there and it comes with 2 almost new rubbers, R47 and R42, both in 2.0. Thumbs Up

If only it had the large handle and flared, I'd be all over it, like white on rice!
With the leatherette tennis grip the handle gets as fat as you want and the balance gets better. Really the ST handle with tennis grip is the best ever for me and I am coming from FL as well.

I use that one and I can send you a brand new never used roll that can take care of 2 handles with 2mm overlap; or just one if you really want to go for it and get a bulge close to the neck for example.

Come on get it now! Clap
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Fatt want to get back on the BBC trial train?
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no thanks; I need to get back at playing with what I know works great for me; no test for me for a while; thank you for thinking of me. 
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After initially really struggling with this blade (basically finding it amazing at looping from mid distance, but very unpredicatable for everything else), I have changed to lighter rubbers (Stiga Mantra S and Nexy Karis M in 2.0) and added a grip tape. The total weight is now 182g.
This has really transformed how it plays, it is now much better balanced, which seems to have sorted out the issues I was having and it now plays much more like how I imagined when I bought it.

I now have a dilemma, do stick with it, knowing that I am probably going to be limited to lighter rubbers in the future or look to sell or trade it whilst it is still like new?

With the current trend for thinner topsheets, I think I might be OK
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

OMG I've been waiting this for ages. Now my ej virus was healed :(

I bet in a year or so they will rename it Violin Outer Carbon and release an Inner Carbon.

This post of mine was from 9/9/17.
It seems I was right (or just lucky): Violin Inner Carbon was released in September 2018:
Anyone had a chance to test it?



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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

OMG I've been waiting this for ages. Now my ej virus was healed :(

I bet in a year or so they will rename it Violin Outer Carbon and release an Inner Carbon.

This post of mine was from 9/9/17.
It seems I was right (or just lucky): Violin Inner Carbon was released in September 2018:
Anyone had a chance to test it?


I also waiting for an online review since it released last year, i found none :( 
hoping they release a large handle version too.
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Originally posted by Halon X Halon X wrote:

I also waiting for an online review since it released last year, i found none :( 
hoping they release a large handle version too.

After the normal (aka small handle) is released it usually takes at least 2 years until they release the LG handle version. For a premium price you can ask for a Nittaku custom blade on iruiru. Or you can ask someone who knows how to do it to change the handle.
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i didnt find any reviews either. can someone send a link to a japanese forum maybe there we will read something with auto translate.
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