Robopong 3050xl vs BTY Amicus Pro robot

apex600 wrote: I have the robopong 2050 and was thinking to upgrade to the amicus prime. I just discovered the existance of the new robopong but these reviews were not really what i was hoping to read: https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=newgy-robopong-3050xl only thing that is keeping me from buying the amicus is actually that it is probably impossible to see the direction where the next ball will be shot because the head is not moving. in real game situation, you would also start moving towards the corrzct locstion when you see the movement of your opponent. can amicus users give me some feedback on that?

I have an amicus advantage that I bought after selling my 2050.  In my opinion  the 2050 is a much better robot.  I think the thing I dislike most about the amicus is that it's not designed to give serves.  There is not much I like about the amicus.  There isn't an on/off switch.  It has to be unplugged from the power supply.  The instruction book is very weak.  There are 3 head heights that can be used, but no information on what height is best for any shots.  Everything is trial by error.  If you set up certain shots you want to work on, you won't always get that shot.  The instruction book says they don't give you the same shot because you don't get the same shots in a match.  Sometimes the shot I get is more that a foot from what I programmed. 

I don't know about the other amicus robots, but the advantage is a bad robot.

Lol, that’s what I do. Use a spread sheet on my iPad and just go to that memory location.

By far the dumbest thing I’ve done with my new amicus is not throw enough balls in the catcher. I always used the one at the club and if you throw a couple of balls in the net a couple of balls come back out. Never thought about there being a stack on balls in the neck already. So I set up my new machine and threw 6 balls in to calibrate and no balls came out. I check the cables, the balls seemed to feed and couldn’t understand why they weren’t coming out. Thought it fed the balls all the way up. Wasn’t until I took the head off and ran it that I realized it was just pushing them from the bottom.

And to everyone, it does put a little side spin on wide balls. At first I use to add opposite spin on wide balls to counter it. But real life play, most wide shots do have side spin so now I just leave it.

I think it is best that you ask the manufacturer - they should remedy this for you.

Edited by reflecx - 05/17/2018 at 3:59am

Thanks everyone!

slevin wrote: I don't think that the head rotates.

I've seen a video on the Newgy website where the head rotates.

Regarding the precision that someone mentioned, I think the variation in balls has a lot to do with this, as no robot can be accurate with variations in ball size and shape. Balls used are only training balls, 3* balls may show some improvement.

Bilbo wrote: TTslurp wrote: Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls? I don't think it says that.  I think it says to only use recommended balls...which I would assume are just 40+ balls.   I will be in the market for a machine soon and this thread has been very useful.  Thanks to all who contributed so far!

I can confirm. The user manual says 40+ balls, which is basically what they recommend.

If 3050 really works as it's design to be, it is totally at a different level of 2050. But now with the bugs to be fixed, I suggest you wait a little longer.

Their customer services/technical support folks are quite responsive so far.

BTW: this shows the precision mode controls in the robot - see how you can even control (to some extent) the amount of randomness in the balls.

haggisv wrote: For anyone that has this robot, how long does it take to change from topspin to backspin? I can see that it can do this either by rotating the head, or by changing the relative speed of the wheels. I expect the rotating of the head will be quicker, but would like to know which method it uses, and how fast it can do this. None of the videos I've seen seem to illustrate this.

Edited by slevin - 05/16/2018 at 9:54am

TTslurp wrote: Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?

Not sure about that, since the robo balls coming with the robot are also 40+. Hope they are similar to the normal brands, for the sake of realistic practice. With that said, you'd get 144 so called top notch robo balls when purchasing the robot. I believe that's way more than enough, especially for a robot with recycling system.

Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?

Edited by TTslurp - 04/19/2018 at 2:30am

slevin wrote: wanchope wrote: I have a question. How do you pause or stop the robot during a drill? Your cell phone screen won't stay on the whole time and what if the phone battery dies? Is this an inconvenience in daily use? Thanks! I'm really thinking of buying it . You specify at the beginning how many minutes you want the drill to last. Your phone screen turns into a giant red STOP button. If you want to stop midway, press the button, that is all. If the phone battery dies, then you can't use the machine, I guess. Elementary to plan around.

Great! Sounds pretty easy to use. I guess if I set the minutes at the begining of the drill, it doesn't even matter if the phones dies? (I need to get a new phone, the current one shuts down randomly around 40%...)
I'm going to get one. It's expensive but hopefully it'd help me improve alot!

slevin wrote: dsc13 wrote: Can you comment on how the 3050XL performs when feeding balls at a higher rate of speed, like 80 balls/min, and changing from underspin to topspin?  For example, a deep underspin to the extreme BH corner, and then a deep topspin to the FH? Thanks I think that almost all 2 or 3 head robots should be able to do this well. 3050XL does as well.

I have a question. How do you pause or stop the robot during a drill? Your cell phone screen won't stay on the whole time and what if the phone battery dies? Is this an inconvenience in daily use?

Thanks! I'm really thinking of buying it .