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    Posted: 10/19/2018 at 6:34am
I assume these two rubbers are quite similar but have heard that G1 is essentially like an upgraded version of the Vega Pro. Can anyone compare these two rubbers?
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I´ve had both. In my opinion Vega Pro has a higher catapult effect while G1 gives more spin.
Both are medium-hard but I found Vega was heavier than G1.
I used both in my FH. Vega more difficult to control. Durability was not an issue, they last a long time.
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So Vega Pro slightly faster, G1 slightly spinnier would you say? Both similar high throw?
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I agree to this review or description. G1 has more spin (for me) and it is easier to generate the spin.
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I have G-1 on both sides of a 89g Hinoki ghost (oversized head, choose the compact or compact II to get it at 82/83g and it’s still super solid), total weight is 192g, a bit heavier than my ideal 185 but the balance is right anyway with quite thick ST handles. G-1 at $30 a piece from tt11 is the absolute best deal to generate spin if we want inexpensive AND high end. I bought 8 of them + accessories to hit the 30% discount and the characteristics from sheet to sheet are so stable.
Thanks to rocketman222 for steering me towards both the blade and the rubber, I knew he was onto something!!!

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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I have G-1 on both sides of a 89g Hinoki ghost, total weight is 192g, a bit heavier than my ideal 185 but the balance is right anyway with quite thick ST handles. G-1 at $30 a piece from tt11 is the absolute best deal to generate spin if we want inexpensive AND high end. I bought 8 of them + accessories to hit the 30% discount and the characteristics from sheet to sheet are so stable.
Thanks to rocketman222 for steering me towards both the blade and the rubber, I knew he was onto something!!!


Also one of my favourite rubbers all time. I use T05 and G1 on my BH. Although T05 is better, but it's pricey and loses its life pretty soon. G1 only costs less than half of T05 but lasts much much longer.
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Also my favorite rubber. C1 and S1 are pretty good as well, for the bh.
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Edited by wanchope - 10/19/2018 at 11:10am
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sounds like I should try the G1.  I like the aggressiveness of the the P1.  Didn't think the S1 is special.
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

sounds like I should try the G1.  I like the aggressiveness of the the P1.  Didn't think the S1 is special.


S1 is very light weighted and suits RPB BH
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Originally posted by wanchope wanchope wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

sounds like I should try the G1.  I like the aggressiveness of the the P1.  Didn't think the S1 is special.


S1 is very light weighted and suits RPB BH


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S1 is ok .  I played quite a few sheets and it is light but I have moved on.
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True. I have a fairly heavy blade. But I don't care about weight, I might put C1 or G1 on my BH.

Any one tried 1.8mm G1 on BH yet? I wonder how much weight is reduced from the 2.0mm and how well it plays.
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Originally posted by wanchope wanchope wrote:

True. I have a fairly heavy blade. But I don't care about weight, I might put C1 or G1 on my BH.

Any one tried 1.8mm G1 on BH yet? I wonder how much weight is reduced from the 2.0mm and how well it plays.


I am using it on my BH. It plays as well as a 2.0 but definitely lighter. I dont have the exact number in weight though.
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I'm using G1 on my FH and C1 on my BH. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe G1 and C1 share the same topsheet (unlike S1), but the sponge of the C1 is a little less dense, a little lighter, and a little softer.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I have G-1 on both sides of a 89g Hinoki ghost (oversized head, choose the compact or compact II to get it at 82/83g and it’s still super solid), total weight is 192g, a bit heavier than my ideal 185 but the balance is right anyway with quite thick ST handles. G-1 at $30 a piece from tt11 is the absolute best deal to generate spin if we want inexpensive AND high end. I bought 8 of them + accessories to hit the 30% discount and the characteristics from sheet to sheet are so stable.
Thanks to rocketman222 for steering me towards both the blade and the rubber, I knew he was onto something!!!

What thickness is ideal for 1 ply hinoki blades? 
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Originally posted by LOG1C1AN LOG1C1AN wrote:

I'm using G1 on my FH and C1 on my BH. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe G1 and C1 share the same topsheet (unlike S1), but the sponge of the C1 is a little less dense, a little lighter, and a little softer.


I believe C1 has G1's topsheet and S1's sponge.
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Vega pro for me much better, high throw compared to medium low of g1, with g1 you have to compress sponge to make ball not jump high during block, with vega pro not. Vega pro more linear rubber. Much harder to bh loop backspin with g1.
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Originally posted by garwor garwor wrote:

Vega pro for me much better, high throw compared to medium low of g1, with g1 you have to compress sponge to make ball not jump high during block, with vega pro not. Vega pro more linear rubber. Much harder to bh loop backspin with g1.


I'm not sure I understand your post. Is Vega Pro higher throw or more linear?
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Just curious which esn generation g1 belongs to, is it similar to rakza, aurus etc? Also, I'm assuming it is a esn rubber, or am i wrong?
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Originally posted by LOG1C1AN LOG1C1AN wrote:

Originally posted by garwor garwor wrote:

Vega pro for me much better, high throw compared to medium low of g1, with g1 you have to compress sponge to make ball not jump high during block, with vega pro not. Vega pro more linear rubber. Much harder to bh loop backspin with g1.


I'm not sure I understand your post. Is Vega Pro higher throw or more linear?

Both, in my opinion.
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It seems contradictory but I believe he means a high throw that is predictable, without any exponential output kicking in at an inflexion point.
Many like me (and log1c1an I suppose) define high throw as breaking from linear to give higher than proportional spin at those inflexion points, higher marginal spin = higher throw. It’s all about conventions I guess.
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it's not ESN, but it's at least 8 years old, so probably same gen as rakza.

i use C1 on both sides - so predictable, consistent in quality, durable and light (this has to be emphasised - 45g cut on my std 157x150 blade - in their thickest version - superthick 2mm). am tempted to upgrade to G1 next year. i might get a heavier virtuoso instead though.
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Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

Also one of my favourite rubbers all time. I use T05 and G1 on my BH. Although T05 is better, but it's pricey and loses its life pretty soon. G1 only costs less than half of T05 but lasts much much longer.

Does G1 last much longer than T05 ?
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Originally posted by Tyler45 Tyler45 wrote:

it's not ESN, but it's at least 8 years old, so probably same gen as rakza.

i use C1 on both sides - so predictable, consistent in quality, durable and light (this has to be emphasised - 45g cut on my std 157x150 blade - in their thickest version - superthick 2mm). am tempted to upgrade to G1 next year. i might get a heavier virtuoso instead though.


It is ESN.
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i stand corrected :)
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Originally posted by Tyler45 Tyler45 wrote:

it's not ESN, but it's at least 8 years old, so probably same gen as rakza.

i use C1 on both sides - so predictable, consistent in quality, durable and light (this has to be emphasised - 45g cut on my std 157x150 blade - in their thickest version - superthick 2mm). am tempted to upgrade to G1 next year. i might get a heavier virtuoso instead though.


Is there anything more durable than vega pro little more spinny?
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Does fastarc g-1 in any way resemble T80 in terms of playing feel?
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No, it resembles T80 not at all.  But g1 is quite good.  I'd much rather have it than tenergy.

And I used Tenergy both sides for 5+ years 


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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by Tyler45 Tyler45 wrote:

it's not ESN, but it's at least 8 years old, so probably same gen as rakza.

i use C1 on both sides - so predictable, consistent in quality, durable and light (this has to be emphasised - 45g cut on my std 157x150 blade - in their thickest version - superthick 2mm). am tempted to upgrade to G1 next year. i might get a heavier virtuoso instead though.


Is there anything more durable than vega pro little more spinny?

Donic Baracuda isn't so different from those rubbers and the most spin between G1, Vega Pro, and Baracuda. Also, I've played with T80 and Baracuda on my main blade for the last 6 months. Baracuda doesn't feel quite like T80, but I can play either rubber on either wing without much adjustment. 


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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by Tyler45 Tyler45 wrote:

it's not ESN, but it's at least 8 years old, so probably same gen as rakza.

i use C1 on both sides - so predictable, consistent in quality, durable and light (this has to be emphasised - 45g cut on my std 157x150 blade - in their thickest version - superthick 2mm). am tempted to upgrade to G1 next year. i might get a heavier virtuoso instead though.


Is there anything more durable than vega pro little more spinny?

Donic Baracuda isn't so different from those rubbers and the most spin between G1, Vega Pro, and Baracuda. Also, I've played with T80 and Baracuda on my main blade for the last 6 months. Baracuda doesn't feel quite like T80, but I can play either rubber on either wing without much adjustment. 

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