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I'm sure Japanese audiences will come around when he starts winning big titles and maybe not cho-ing so much 😊
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Originally posted by mickd mickd wrote:

I forgot what day Harimoto played, but being on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights probably help too.

Both were on 25th(Thu). Niwa(6PM Tokyo time) played before Harimoto(6:50PM) on the same table. BS TV Tokyo broadcast them live. TV Tokyo broadcast the recordings roughly at 9PM(stats shown is for this one).

Edited by zeio - 05/09/2019 at 8:57am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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I forgot what day Harimoto played, but being on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights probably help too.
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Harimoto's match was also in prime time as the others. So ya, they like Niwa more.
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They must dislike Harimoto screaming as much as many of us do....
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TV ratings for WTTC in Japan for the week from 4/22-28. Occupying 6 of the top 10 for sports, with the WD final at the top. XD final 3rd, Niwa vs LJK 5th, Ito vs SYS 6th, WD SF 7th, Niwa vs Pucar 9th.

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Edited by zeio - 05/09/2019 at 12:14am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

I think ITTF wanted to have a Swede-China final to draw more viewer.  The bottom half was all fixed.  Xu Xin loosing to Gauzy (unbelievable!), Timo withdraw, when he is the strongest player in the half, after Xu Xin and Ovtcharov are gone (common now!), and then Gauzy, the man of the hour, lost rather easily to Falck.


You are forgetting the ITTF also needed to pay off An (to lose to Falck), Harimoto  (to lose to An) and a few other players to get out of the way - just in case. Then similar things in WS, WD (to make sure that Japanese pair is in the final) etc. Damn those deep ITTF coffers! who knew they have so much money!



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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

I think ITTF wanted to have a Swede-China final to draw more viewer.  The bottom half was all fixed.  Xu Xin loosing to Gauzy (unbelievable!), Timo withdraw, when he is the strongest player in the half, after Xu Xin and Ovtcharov are gone (common now!), and then Gauzy, the man of the hour, lost rather easily to Falck.


You are forgetting the ITTF also needed to pay off An (to lose to Falck), Harimoto  (to lose to An) and a few other players to get out of the way - just in case. Then similar things in WS, WD (to make sure that Japanese pair is in the final) etc. Damn those deep ITTF coffers! who knew they have so much money!


LOL. "Yeah, Timo, we're going to need you to withdraw from the World Championships because we're rigging it for viewers. Don't tell anyone, okay? Oh yeah, just say you got the fever".

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Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

I think ITTF wanted to have a Swede-China final to draw more viewer.  The bottom half was all fixed.  Xu Xin loosing to Gauzy (unbelievable!), Timo withdraw, when he is the strongest player in the half, after Xu Xin and Ovtcharov are gone (common now!), and then Gauzy, the man of the hour, lost rather easily to Falck.


You are forgetting the ITTF also needed to pay off An (to lose to Falck), Harimoto  (to lose to An) and a few other players to get out of the way - just in case. Then similar things in WS, WD (to make sure that Japanese pair is in the final) etc. Damn those deep ITTF coffers! who knew they have so much money!
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Edited by zeio - 05/06/2019 at 2:19am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Catching up on the overdramatic TV Tokyo cut-ins.






Edited by zeio - 05/04/2019 at 10:09am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

I think mykonos is bbkon.

That should explain a lot.

It is too obvious.

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I am not sure if he could balance between school and table tennis down the road while most of the top players become a pro at this age. I don’t remember who was the last world champion that did not go pro in modern TT. I am afraid the gap between him and the top Chinese players will not shrink but actually increase. History will tell.
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Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

Wow, harimoto saying that he only played 10%. I hope he's just exaggerating, because if he really thinks that is the case, then he must be delusional. Even so, I think that is a pretty jerky move of him towards AN. 
 
He's not even 16 yet, so he doesn't have the EQ to understand saying something like that (even if it were true, which it is not) after losing a match is disrespectful to the opponent. It prolly also has something to do with the fact he was still pretty emotional in the post-match interview.
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Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

I think mykonos is bbkon.

That should explain a lot.

It is too obvious.
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

When Harimoto lost to Koki Niwa in the Asian cup, did he mention that he played bad as well?

Obviously, everyone is exploiting his weakness. And true or not, everyone is exploiting his forehand. Many have said that Harimoto can not improve his forehand much at this stage, then everyone is still going to exploit it in the future.



He's a kid, come on....he hasn't learnt to speak with tact like adults. Saying Harimoto can't improve his FH is ridiculous, considering that he has the most powerful FH among his peers. If you watch the match against An, he hit many very high quality powerful FH loops, one of the most powerful in the competition.

He lost due to not reading the An serve well...the receive game was poor from start to end...

Well Liu said HT forehand is amateurish and weak. What opinion we should take? And well I think harimoto.plays poor at big events and I know people will gonna say he s 15 but are you gonna argue that until  he s 20 for defending him? 

I think he cant deal with the pressure and he played 10% because AN doesnt let him play and at some points HT blocked very weakly and when he plays olympics there will be more pressure. The reign of harimoto are protours

I remember about decade ago when there was a lot of discussion about mental weakness of one player from China. I think that most of us sg era players remember those discussions. Well in Harimoto case time will tell but I think that right now it seems quite ridiculous that some of os tought that THE GOAT was mentally weak. He might have been at some point but things can change and to me saying that 15 years old is mentally weak can´t be true. If 15 year old boy can play at the top level in one of the biggest sport in a world he must be very very strong both mentally and physically.
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I think mykonos is bbkon.

That should explain a lot.


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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

When Harimoto lost to Koki Niwa in the Asian cup, did he mention that he played bad as well?

Obviously, everyone is exploiting his weakness. And true or not, everyone is exploiting his forehand. Many have said that Harimoto can not improve his forehand much at this stage, then everyone is still going to exploit it in the future.



He's a kid, come on....he hasn't learnt to speak with tact like adults. Saying Harimoto can't improve his FH is ridiculous, considering that he has the most powerful FH among his peers. If you watch the match against An, he hit many very high quality powerful FH loops, one of the most powerful in the competition.

He lost due to not reading the An serve well...the receive game was poor from start to end...

Well Liu said HT forehand is amateurish and weak. What opinion we should take? And well I think harimoto.plays poor at big events and I know people will gonna say he s 15 but are you gonna argue that until  he s 20 for defending him? 

I think he cant deal with the pressure and he played 10% because AN doesnt let him play and at some points HT blocked very weakly and when he plays olympics there will be more pressure. The reign of harimoto are protours

If you said his receive on the short FH is poor then you might have a point (he did lose most points there). But if you wanna argue that his FH loop is weak, just count how many FH loopkills vs unforced errors he's made in the match he lost against An....

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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

When Harimoto lost to Koki Niwa in the Asian cup, did he mention that he played bad as well?

Obviously, everyone is exploiting his weakness. And true or not, everyone is exploiting his forehand. Many have said that Harimoto can not improve his forehand much at this stage, then everyone is still going to exploit it in the future.



He's a kid, come on....he hasn't learnt to speak with tact like adults. Saying Harimoto can't improve his FH is ridiculous, considering that he has the most powerful FH among his peers. If you watch the match against An, he hit many very high quality powerful FH loops, one of the most powerful in the competition.

He lost due to not reading the An serve well...the receive game was poor from start to end...

Well Liu said HT forehand is amateurish and weak. What opinion we should take? And well I think harimoto.plays poor at big events and I know people will gonna say he s 15 but are you gonna argue that until  he s 20 for defending him? 

I think he cant deal with the pressure and he played 10% because AN doesnt let him play and at some points HT blocked very weakly and when he plays olympics there will be more pressure. The reign of harimoto are protours
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

When Harimoto lost to Koki Niwa in the Asian cup, did he mention that he played bad as well?

Obviously, everyone is exploiting his weakness. And true or not, everyone is exploiting his forehand. Many have said that Harimoto can not improve his forehand much at this stage, then everyone is still going to exploit it in the future.



He's a kid, come on....he hasn't learnt to speak with tact like adults. Saying Harimoto can't improve his FH is ridiculous, considering that he has the most powerful FH among his peers. If you watch the match against An, he hit many very high quality powerful FH loops, one of the most powerful in the competition.

He lost due to not reading the An serve well...the receive game was poor from start to end...
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When Harimoto lost to Koki Niwa in the Asian cup, did he mention that he played bad as well?

Obviously, everyone is exploiting his weakness. And true or not, everyone is exploiting his forehand. Many have said that Harimoto can not improve his forehand much at this stage, then everyone is still going to exploit it in the future.


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Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:



Wow, harimoto saying that he only played 10%. I hope he's just exaggerating, because if he really thinks that is the case, then he must be delusional. Even so, I think that is a pretty jerky move of him towards AN. 

It is, but it is another example of what happens when you are the younger Ma Long, Harimoto or even Fan Zhendong and the pressure is on you to play well and you don't learn to enjoy battle as being something other than you playing like crap. The pressure makes you play worse.   He was probably focused on An's ranking and status on the Korean team rather than treating him as a top 10 quality player without the experience.  The nerves kick in when you have set expectations out of whack with reality.

BTW he did play worse and nervously.   But whether that was why he lost is another story.  The JNT has admitted there is a drop in level when Harimoto is playing his fellow juniors and they should have exposed him more to these challenges (rather than having him skip the WJTTC after he won it). While they might not make him play WJTTC this year,  they realize that any future prodigy they get should develop the right competitive attitude towards his peers by competing against them as much as he does vs adults.


Edited by NextLevel - 05/02/2019 at 11:18am
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Wow, harimoto saying that he only played 10%. I hope he's just exaggerating, because if he really thinks that is the case, then he must be delusional. Even so, I think that is a pretty jerky move of him towards AN. 
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Edited by zeio - 05/02/2019 at 5:03am
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+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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