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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Regenkurt Hans Regenkurt wrote:

I tested it for 1.5 hours this evening on a Gewo Robles 7 ply OFF blade. It was mainly forehand looping and 2 backhands and then two forehands diagonally into my practice partner's backhand from my BH side of the table.

All in all, it is quite a step up from regular MXP and I am convinced that a lot of people who like the regular will not like the 50 degree version. But at the same time, it will be a redemption for those who found the plain version to be lacking something when it came to overpowering the opponent.

Hardness: it is noticeably harder than the regular. A comparison that comes to my mind is the Joola Rhyzer Pro 50. The MXP Hard feels just a little more flexible and the topsheet bites the ball better but as I recall, they share similarities.

Spin: it comes out differently compared to the regular. Due to the hardness it lifts the ball earlier and does not hold it for so long. Therefore, on slow loops it is enough to do a shorter / more economic stroke and the result will be just as spinny, if not spinnier. So it gains you a little time when playing close to the table.

Speed: it is faster than the regular for sure.

One of my practice partners described the difference between the regular and the "hard" version as follows:
The loops from MXP 50 land a bit closer to the middle of the table  and after the bounce they tend to continue downwards while from the regular they bounce sort of upwards and they land closer to the table's end.

What I did not like comes from its hardness: it does not bite the ball identically in every situation. In this rescpect, Tenergy is still king. The other is that when at least at 2.5 meters off the table I had to adjust my stroke to avoid the white  of the net.

To illustrate its hardness / speed: I gave it to somebody who does not have too solid looping technique - plays with Bluefire 2.0 on a Stiga Infinity. He did not manage to hit the ball back with it.He gave it back to my after 1 minute saying that it is good but too hard and fast for him.

So to summarise: MXP Hard a good rubber but obviously for those who can handle the increase speed and hardness and the reduced dwell. Those who like the relatively long dwell of the regular MXP and enjoy playing arching loops will probably stay with the regular.

The big question is durability, in other words, how long ill it be before the booster goes out and it becomes too hard to use.

These are my preliminary thoughts, I will be doing more testing over the weekend and will come back with my new experiences.




How does it compare to Hurricane 3?


It has been several years since I last held a H3 in my hand but  they do not seem to have much in common.  The MXP Hard behaves like a european rubber. As I recall, I had a few knocks with a H3 Prov 39 degrees sponge. The MXPH would be 37 degrees compared to that.

I am playing with it again tomorrow.


Edited by Hans Regenkurt - 04/19/2019 at 10:29am
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MX-P 50 has nothing in common with Hurricane 3, absolutely.

Tibhar K1/K2 is hybrid chinese style rubber from Tibhar that has.
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Anyone else tried it recently?
Here is a nice review with english subtitles .. the person reviewing the rubber has an okay technique.. he is probably 2100 on a good day, we should all listen to his feedback Wink  

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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Anyone else tried it recently?
Here is a nice review with english subtitles .. the person reviewing the rubber has an okay technique.. he is probably 2100 on a good day, we should all listen to his feedback Wink  

thanks for the find - you were kidding about the 2100 right, LOL, he is at least 2150
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I can tell just by the sound of it that I wouldn't like it. 
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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Anyone else tried it recently?
Here is a nice review with english subtitles .. the person reviewing the rubber has an okay technique.. he is probably 2100 on a good day, we should all listen to his feedback Wink  


I hope you're joking about 2100... That's not very nice to joke about the first ever Olympic gold medalist in table tennis (and current Korean national coach)...

Edited by psongjh - 05/11/2019 at 1:06pm
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Originally posted by psongjh psongjh wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Anyone else tried it recently?
Here is a nice review with english subtitles .. the person reviewing the rubber has an okay technique.. he is probably 2100 on a good day, we should all listen to his feedback Wink  


I hope you're joking about 2100... That's not very nice to joke about the first ever Olympic gold medalist in table tennis (and current Korean national coach)...

Your feedback on this rubber is extremely helpful. Thanks for posting. And thanks for clarifying on the  Olympic gold medalist part. Because the translator said the same thing @0:23 and you know I was still not 100% certain LOL 
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Tibhar Evolution MX-P 52.5° and MX-S 52.5° are also readily available.
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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by psongjh psongjh wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Anyone else tried it recently?
Here is a nice review with english subtitles .. the person reviewing the rubber has an okay technique.. he is probably 2100 on a good day, we should all listen to his feedback Wink  


I hope you're joking about 2100... That's not very nice to joke about the first ever Olympic gold medalist in table tennis (and current Korean national coach)...

Your feedback on this rubber is extremely helpful. Thanks for posting. And thanks for clarifying on the  Olympic gold medalist part. Because the translator said the same thing @0:23 and you know I was still not 100% certain LOL 
so you were serious.  you could easily find the dude's Olympic gold medal match on youtube
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Can anyone comment on durability yet?
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I have played 25 hours with mine and so far it is as good as new.
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Originally posted by Hans Regenkurt Hans Regenkurt wrote:

I have played 25 hours with mine and so far it is as good as new.

It should have the topsheet of the original MXP..  does it look like it is different?
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by psongjh psongjh wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Anyone else tried it recently?
Here is a nice review with english subtitles .. the person reviewing the rubber has an okay technique.. he is probably 2100 on a good day, we should all listen to his feedback Wink  


I hope you're joking about 2100... That's not very nice to joke about the first ever Olympic gold medalist in table tennis (and current Korean national coach)...

Your feedback on this rubber is extremely helpful. Thanks for posting. And thanks for clarifying on the  Olympic gold medalist part. Because the translator said the same thing @0:23 and you know I was still not 100% certain LOL 
so you were serious.  you could easily find the dude's Olympic gold medal match on youtube

No i was NOT serious. gosh... it's so obvious. and the video says it too.
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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Regenkurt Hans Regenkurt wrote:

I have played 25 hours with mine and so far it is as good as new.

It should have the topsheet of the original MXP..  does it look like it is different?

Also, another question, did mxp50 lose any booster effect after 25 hours? People claim mxp comes boosted from the factory.
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I have not noticed any drop in performance but it is too early to tell. I will report back later. So far I like it very much and now I am using the Hard on both sides. As to the topsheet, I have never examined it.


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Originally posted by Hans Regenkurt Hans Regenkurt wrote:

I have not noticed any drop in performance but it is too early to tell. I will report back later. So far I like it very much and now I am using the Hard on both sides. As to the topsheet, I have never examined it.

Keep us posted...  I will likely purchase one to test once I use up a couple of leftover sheets of regular mxp.
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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by psongjh psongjh wrote:

Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Anyone else tried it recently?
Here is a nice review with english subtitles .. the person reviewing the rubber has an okay technique.. he is probably 2100 on a good day, we should all listen to his feedback Wink  


I hope you're joking about 2100... That's not very nice to joke about the first ever Olympic gold medalist in table tennis (and current Korean national coach)...

Your feedback on this rubber is extremely helpful. Thanks for posting. And thanks for clarifying on the  Olympic gold medalist part. Because the translator said the same thing @0:23 and you know I was still not 100% certain LOL 

Ah, my apologies for not catching the humor. I didn’t realize the video introduced his background. Being a native Korean, I sorta skipped the intro and jumped to the review. That said, my MX-P 50 sheet is on its way and hope to try it out soon. Not sure how useful my feedback would be, though.
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will put in my two cents soon, mounted my sheet yesterday when I had 30 minutes to burn
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keep them coming guys... If anyone can compare to the original MXP, it would be super helpful.
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haven't played MXP for quite a while, I might still have a sheet or 2 mounted -will see.  by itself -on a H301-you definitly have to fully engage the sponge to get speed, spin and power otherwise you might dump the ball into the net on a loop drive and lack of power (ball bouncing off rubber before power can be transferred to ball) on flat hits.  Probably less bouncy than the regular but is still somewhat bouncy, more than T05H and H3 (39).  Initial impression, good rubber but a bit harder to play than the regular.  I like the feel of Xiom OAV better, but that might change after break in .
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I tryed mxp50 on forehand for few weeks. Compared to normal mxp, the mxp50 has lower throw and more aggressive trajectory, perfect for new balls. Flat hits are incredibly good and easier, forehand flip too. Spin seems the same to me. Opening loops are not very easy, it’s better if you catch the ball over the table, if the ball during the loop comes down the net line it’s hard to bring up the ball. You must be well placed in every top spin, the rubber is not forgiving at all. In 3 weeks I couldn’t manage to play with mxp50 very good, so I came back to normal mxp, maybe I’ll try again the mxp50 this summer. It’s not easy to handle imo if you are not used to play with 50º+ rubbers
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So it's been about a week testing out MX-P 50 on my TSP Special Dynam 10.5 jpen. Both my friend (who also was trying out the MX-P 50) and I had a huge grin on our faces when warming up just because of the sheer ease at looping and blocking. This rubber is a looping machine, and the distinct *clicks* we heard from the rubber from effortless swings were refreshing. Smashes catapulted like a bullet, too. As far as spin goes, it felt similar to regular MX-Ps. But lifting underspin with a flick felt much easier as I felt the rubber eating up spin upon contact. The downside of this rubber is probably control - since the dwell time on the rubber is less than regular MX-Ps, I felt that short games needed more time to adjust, and precise placement took more effort. So far, I'm liking the rubber a lot more than the T05 that I was using on my blade, but I'll need more play time to compare against regular MX-P (that I used to have on my Darker Speed 90 jpen).
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