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Originally posted by Lula Lula wrote:

How was it not like you expected?


I expected more power from this blade.  It's mostly my fault.  I knew that the Viscaria is a 25+ years design for 38mm ball, but I expected too much from it.  It plays well near the table, but it doesn't have the power at 5 feet (~1.5m) away from the table.
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it doesnt have power because its 84 grams. 
I play with a 94 gr viscaria and its a rocket
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/05/2019 at 1:39pm
Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

it doesnt have power because its 84 grams. 
I play with a 94 gr viscaria and its a rocket

The new model with 94 grams?
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no its a 2nd serie
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How was the blade overall?  How was the control?  Topspin of underspin balls?   Also, as for the speed, what other blade is the speed similar to?

I mostly play close to the table, so speed and power from away from the table does not matter as much to me.

I am looking for a blade that is good for close to the table, has a ST handle and weighs between 84-86gr.

Thank you...


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Originally posted by symbat symbat wrote:

How was the blade overall?  How was the control?  Topspin of underspin balls?   Also, as for the speed, what other blade is the speed similar to?

I mostly play close to the table, so speed and power from away from the table does not matter as much to me.

I am looking for a blade that is good for close to the table, has a ST handle and weighs between 84-86gr.

Thank you...

If you play mostly close to the table, then this blade is still good.  It starts losing power when you are moving out.  Viscaria is really good for all types of topspin games, especially close to the table.
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Thanks Speedy.  

I have an 84gr ST on the way and I will see how she plays.  I have an 82gr Liu Shiwen ST and the weight works well for me, especially with the larger head size and more weight in the rubbers.   I hope the ST handles are the same on these two blades.   From what I have found online, the dimensions should be the same.
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I guess that’s why nobody is selling their vis st cause everyone is liking and keeping theirs 
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I think anyone who thinks a Viscaria is too slow for play with the current ball just needs to use it a bit longer.  There is no universe in which this blade is too anemic away from the table.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I think anyone who thinks a Viscaria is too slow for play with the current ball just needs to use it a bit longer.  There is no universe in which this blade is too anemic away from the table.

Playing styles are different.  If you see the player who made that statement's playing style, his statement might make sense.  In general, since the whole CNT is using Viscarias, you are obviously right.
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Any blade that light would feel slow...
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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No offense to anyone, but I used over 300 different blades.  I can tell if they are slow or not.  If you take times to use a blade, meaning you are adapting to it.  The blade doesn't change.  You will change your strokes and angle of impacts to make the ball go as fast as possible.

CNT is using Viscarias.  Ok, I got it.  So, I have three questions (1) are we 100% sure that they are using exactly what we are buying on the market? (2) Do we/they boost their rubbers? (3) Do you think that we have the same ability to do what CNT is doing?

Again, no offense to anyone, I tested the blade with Tenergy 64 and H3 "National" without boosting the rubbers.  So, when I said "slow", I am comparing to other blades (i.e. MJ ZLC, TB ZLC, etc...)

Having said that, I am keeping my Viscarias LOL  They are beautiful.
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Originally posted by speedy speedy wrote:

No offense to anyone, but I used over 300 different blades.  I can tell if they are slow or not.  If you take times to use a blade, meaning you are adapting to it.  The blade doesn't change.  You will change your strokes and angle of impacts to make the ball go as fast as possible.

CNT is using Viscarias.  Ok, I got it.  So, I have three questions (1) are we 100% sure that they are using exactly what we are buying on the market? (2) Do we/they boost their rubbers? (3) Do you think that we have the same ability to do what CNT is doing?

Again, no offense to anyone, I tested the blade with Tenergy 64 and H3 "National" without boosting the rubbers.  So, when I said "slow", I am comparing to other blades (i.e. MJ ZLC, TB ZLC, etc...)

Having said that, I am keeping my Viscarias LOL  They are beautiful.
I am with Speedy on this one.
I've tried so many viscarias and always wondered why this blade is liked so much.
Recently a club mate purchased a "$2000"-25 year old -first generation viscaria that was allegedly verified by butterfly that it was the first gen of viscaria made. Feels good, sure. It feels slow to me LOL
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