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Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

We joined both US open and US NA team. The differences are not only concrete and flooring. US open has a great playing hall in Orlando. But most of tables are empty on Friday and Saturday. Only 1/4 of table is active used. It is clearly waste of money. For US NA team event, almost all tables available has been used. By the way, US NA team event also have little or none cash reward. Is it possible to restrict US National and US open from one week to three or four days? It will save USATT a lot of money and save player money for hotel also.
NA Teams can use tables more efficiently because every participant competes in only one event. A tournament like US Nationals or US Open has players in multiple events which create conflicts. The schedule has to be spread out in an attempt to minimize conflicts. 


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For US open (possibly in future US national) , there are multiple events with only less than 5 people or only less than 5 people shown up. For example in one event, 8 people only 3 people shows up and everyone can get a medal. I do think they need to minimize events to save the cost in the future. If any event with less than 20 (arbitrary number) people, this event is meaningless. 

I also don't understand why low rating events (for example below 2000) cannot be finished in the same day. For a good player, they have a good day, but they need to wait for second day to see playoff. Their luck might be totally changed in the next day. It really hurts.

US has so many good mathematician and world-class talented students. How to utilize the current available players and lowest number of tables to generate best results with minimum cost? This is very good math modeling problems. Since USATT cannot get more money from outside, they need to think how to save costs.


Originally posted by heavyspin heavyspin wrote:

NA Teams can use tables more efficiently because every participant competes in only one event. A tournament like US Nationals or US Open has players in multiple events which create conflicts. The schedule has to be spread out in an attempt to minimize conflicts. 


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Up to 143 entries from 25 states. Early bird deadline is May 6th. Final deadline is May 20th.
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Up to 209 entries from 30 states. Now the bad news, currently it appears the online entry isn't working. When you click on the online entry tab is brings up the entry prospectus instead. 
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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Up to 209 entries from 30 states. Now the bad news, currently it appears the online entry isn't working. When you click on the online entry tab is brings up the entry prospectus instead. 
It figures, right after I say online entry isn't working I just went and checked and now it appears to be working now. LOL
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Today is the deadline to get the early bird entry fee. Currently there are 518 entries from 32 states.
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Curious why there is no Over 20 event? Event managers don't want the extra work?
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wow. 234 person for U2200 and 203 person for U2300, 180 person for U2200 tiered Super RR so far.

Those rating events are so popular. It will be a fun event.


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Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

wow. 234 person for U2200 and 203 person for U2300, 180 person for U2200 tiered Super RR so far.

Those rating events are so popular. It will be a fun event.

When you add the 2200's to the super tiered 2200's there are 415 entrants.  
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Currently 686 entries. Last day too enter is Monday 5/20. 
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Have hit the 700 mark for entries. Who from here is going? I know mts388, heavyspin, Schen, Benb, Danseemiller, and I will be there plus some others who’s member names i don’t know the spelling of.

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Anyone know what the current U.S. Women's National Champion is doing?  Juan Liu's name is not listed.
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emihet, James, and a host of other Sacramento based players are a goin'...
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

emihet, James, and a host of other Sacramento based players are a goin'...
James is going but only after really debating not going due massive cut of prize money in events that have long traditionally paid cash. Why is BH-Man going? It's just a short drive for you.
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The massive cut in prize money- $8,000. for the winner last year for the Men's and Women's and only $3,000. this year. What happened? No prize for Men's and Women's doubles? 
USATT is going backward once again.

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Why does the USOC force us to have 4 of their reps on our board?It's not like they have been keeping a clean house themselves what with all the gymnastic and Volleyball problems they have.
It's also irritating to me to have the board chairperson  a USOC rep for the last many years. 

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Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

The massive cut in prize money- $8,000. for the winner last year for the Men's and Women's and only $3,000. this year. What happened? No prize for Men's and Women's doubles? 
USATT is going backward once again.

It sure is. Especially compared to pickleball, which had 2,100 participants in its US Open last year. There is now a pro-circuit with TV contracts! There are over 1800 pickleball ambassadors, spreading the word, according to the USAPA. (Obviously one advantage pickleball has is it can use existing tennis courts and gyms.)

When I told a podiatrist I played table tennis, he enthusiastically recommended his new-found passion, pickleball.Unhappy

One article described pickleball as table tennis on steroids... *SIGH*


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Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

The massive cut in prize money- $8,000. for the winner last year for the Men's and Women's and only $3,000. this year. What happened? No prize for Men's and Women's doubles? 
USATT is going backward once again.

Croatia open had the same prize money 
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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

emihet, James, and a host of other Sacramento based players are a goin'...
James is going but only after really debating not going due massive cut of prize money in events that have long traditionally paid cash. Why is BH-Man not going? It's just a short drive for you.


I can only attend so many tourneys out of town before my head becomes the shape of inside of frypan.

I DID choose a mission to go to Meiklejohn... so it isn't a total wipeout.

LV is a short 10 road hours sure. Difficult to do in one stretch and you gotta do it on way back. 7-8 hours is about the comfortable limit to do 2 of such drives withon a few days.
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

emihet, James, and a host of other Sacramento based players are a goin'...
James is going but only after really debating not going due massive cut of prize money in events that have long traditionally paid cash. Why is BH-Man not going? It's just a short drive for you.


I can only attend so many tourneys out of town before my head becomes the shape of inside of frypan.

I DID choose a mission to go to Meiklejohn... so it isn't a total wipeout.

LV is a short 10 road hours sure. Difficult to do in one stretch and you gotta do it on way back. 7-8 hours is about the comfortable limit to do 2 of such drives withon a few days.
 I hope you are prepared for the conditions at the playing site for the Meiklejohn tournament! LOL
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Up to 715 entries. Final deadline is tomorrow 5/20 9:00pm PST.
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Originally posted by Ieyasu Ieyasu wrote:

Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

The massive cut in prize money- $8,000. for the winner last year for the Men's and Women's and only $3,000. this year. What happened? No prize for Men's and Women's doubles? 
USATT is going backward once again.

It sure is. Especially compared to pickleball, which had 2,100 participants in its US Open last year. There is now a pro-circuit with TV contracts! There are over 1800 pickleball ambassadors, spreading the word, according to the USAPA. (Obviously one advantage pickleball has is it can use existing tennis courts and gyms.)

When I told a podiatrist I played table tennis, he enthusiastically recommended his new-found passion, pickleball.Unhappy

One article described pickleball as table tennis on steroids... *SIGH*

Kind of standard for newer sports though. Paintball, roller blading, skateboarding etc. all hit huge peaks and then died off away from the public eye soon afterward.

Will pickleball become a huge, sustaining sensation? I doubt it... but I can see it becoming a mainstay in senior homes for years to come! Less strain than tennis, less thinking than table tennis, and still gets the body moving
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Good points. Racquetball comes to mind as well. Its popularity has dropped considerably since the 80's. 

Unfortunately for table tennis, in recent history, it never had a significant plateau to decline from (but as you allude to it wasn't new).
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Not going this year.

Good luck and keep us posted with your results at the tourney!
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So 745 entries.  Not bad and a sigh of relief.  Hopefully, 2018 US Nationals entry count of 646 was just an aberration.
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I'm just getting around to making a hotel reservation.  What did people find for good rates? I almost always stay at the Westgae, and right now that looks to be $55/night + resort fee.

We had another thread discussing this stuff but I can't located it.
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Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

I'm just getting around to making a hotel reservation.  What did people find for good rates? I almost always stay at the Westgae, and right now that looks to be $55/night + resort fee.

We had another thread discussing this stuff but I can't located it.
Even with the resort fee the westgate would still be almost 20 night cheaper than the official tournament hotel.
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Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

I'm just getting around to making a hotel reservation.  What did people find for good rates? I almost always stay at the Westgae, and right now that looks to be $55/night + resort fee.

We had another thread discussing this stuff but I can't located it.

They sent me an email a couple of weeks ago with a table tennis rate of $69 without a resort fee.
You might call them and ask them about the table tennis rate.
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Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

I'm just getting around to making a hotel reservation.  What did people find for good rates? I almost always stay at the Westgae, and right now that looks to be $55/night + resort fee.

We had another thread discussing this stuff but I can't located it.
Registered at $55/night through Hotels.com, which works out to $62/night with taxes.  Then there is $33/night resort fee, to make the total $95/night.
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