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Originally posted by YoAss YoAss wrote:

I'd say sticky and tacky are synonyms.

Sticky and Tacky mean almost the same thing; however, I would say sticky is stickier. Yet, with regard to top sheets, I think the terms Tacky (sticky) and Grippy make more sense . . .

TACKY:  I began my table tennis career playing with DHS P4. I could pick up a ball and hold it upside down indefinitely. In fact, it actually worked as flypaper . . . while in Guangdong where it's hot and humid . . . mosquitos would often get stuck to it. I needed to keep a towel nearby to wipe wipe wipe. THAT IS STICKY!!

GRIPPY:  From Mark V/Sriver to Bryce to Tenergy . . . most Euro/Jap rubbers won't catch bugs. They are more like automobile tires that have traction. They can grip, but won't hold on.


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Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

Originally posted by YoAss YoAss wrote:

I'd say sticky and tacky are synonyms.

Sticky and Tacky mean almost the same thing; however, I would say sticky is stickier. Yet, with regard to top sheets, I think the terms Tacky (sticky) and Grippy make more sense . . .

TACKY:  I began my table tennis career playing with DHS P4. I could pick up a ball and hold it upside down indefinitely. In fact, it actually worked as flypaper . . . while in Guangdong where it's hot and humid . . . mosquitos would often get stuck to it. I needed to keep a towel nearby to wipe wipe wipe. THAT IS STICKY!!

GRIPPY:  Since Mark V/Sriver to Bryce to Tenergy . . . most Euro/Jap rubbers won't catch bugs. They are more like automobile tires that have traction. They can grab, but won't hold on.
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I agree tommyzai. Tacky is a term that's often mixed up with grippy... even some of the manufacturers use the term tacky when in fact it's really only grippy. So I tend to use only the terms grippy or sticky, so there is no confusion.

Going back to the question of spinny rubbers for serves, I tend to get significantly more spin if the topsheet is relatively soft. That's why I get more spin from Golden Tango or Victas 401, compared to Hurricane 3, whose topsheet is harder. For loops h3 gets tons of spin though, but it's not as spinny for serves (for my technique).


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I used to play with the Rasant Beat and thought I won’t be able to find anything better for serves. I was wrong. Yasaka Shining Dragon. This thing is really good. Japanese sponge with the Chinese top. Not fast and incredibly spinny.
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Three Sword Leap is the tackiest rubber I've tried.  And according to the ads, it's better than H3 National Blue Sponge Wink. It is very hard though, and requires more effort than H3 to land a winner.  Might be useful for training your strength, and very cheap.
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Tommyzai, instead of going through my memories as a server , I am mentioning my experiences as a receiver when I was surprised with the amount of spin on the serves,  so much so, that I had urge to ask my opponents afterwards what rubber they were using. To avoid redundancy I am skipping some already mentioned rubbers and new to list, are:
-R47 UltraMax -though served by former pro, January 2019 made it in Japan top 16 
-Acuda S2 - couldn't believe when I was told, so I asked, if I could have a look, and got explanation that his forearms were strong and used wrist snap while serving 
-Genesis II M
-Mark V - after my disbelief, I asked the guy, if he boosted, treated or if any SpeedGlue used, he said: "Actually it is factory pre assembled, Ma Lin Carbon, racquet by Yasaka", Whaaat!!!, and he handed it to me if I wanna look. 
-Vega Pro
-MX-P
-Nittaku H3 Turbo Orange, when served fast diagonally with sidespin, it was crazy curving in the air



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Originally posted by KomiTTa KomiTTa wrote:

Tommyzai, instead of going through my memories as a succesful server , I am mentioning my experiences as a receiver when I was surprised so much wiith the amount of spin on serves, that I had urge to ask my oponents afterwards what rubber they were using. Well, to avoid redundancy I am skipping some well known and already mentioned. New additions to the list, in order of surprise effect on me are,
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-Mark V, after my disbelief, I asked the guy, if he boosted, treated or any SpeedGlue used, he said: "Actually it is factory preassembled Ma Lin Carbon, racquet by Yasaka", Whaaat!!!, and he handed it to me if I wanna look. 
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These stories are my favorite. There’s a guy at my club with what is probably a 20 year old 1.8 rubber and his serves are nasty. 
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