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    Posted: 05/10/2019 at 9:05pm
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I’m 220 lbs very fit guy. However, since I did a lot of karate for many years, my knees are bad and so are the calves. I’m playing TT about 8-10 hrs a week on a vinyl over cement floor. I can’t seem to find a right pair of shoes to make it easier on my legs. TT shoes with gum soles are especially bad! Any ideas would be appreciated.

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TT shoes are horrible for your knees, they have low cushion to absorb impact. I am also a big guy and now I play with volleyball shoes as they provide a thicker sole to absorb the shock from impact. 

I think basketball shoes may also be an option but I find they sometimes provide too much grip....
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I'm 220 as well. I just wear bball shoes like Under Armour Curry 1 (Anafoam) or Nike or Jordan's. The cushion on these shoes are much better than what you get from cheap tt shoes
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I switch between these three shoes. 
Under Armour Curey 1 Low (Anafoam)
Nike PG 2.5 (zoom air)
Jordan 32 Lows (zoom air)

Make sure you get the low top to allow easier ankle movements.  I have no desire to going back to tt shoes even if I were to lose weights. I have been wearing these pairs on tt floors for more than a year. So I dont see any problems of switching back to tt shoes.
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I have seen ASICS Mens Gel-Rocket Volleyball shoes recommended.
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Gel Rockets really stick to the floor which seriously complicates the lateral movements. In fact, I tore my calf wearing them. I’ve come to grips with an idea that I would rather slip than get stuck...
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asics netburner are much more cushioned than gel rocket. They will work for you.
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You can have a look at my other thread on barefoot shoes. In my opinion after changing to them and retraining my movements, I felt way less stress on my hips and knees....The human foot, in fact is the best shock absorber imo...
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Just ordered a pair of Reebok Hexagons. Tried them in a store, really thick and soft sole, memory foam insoles, decent lateral support and comes in Extra Wide. $39 on Amazon. Will try them out Tuesday. Thanks for all the recommendations!
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Originally posted by Ieyasu Ieyasu wrote:

I have seen ASICS Mens Gel-Rocket Volleyball shoes recommended.

Asics Gel-Rockets are very good shoes. 

Also, some people had mentioned basketball shoes. In my opinion, basketball shoes are too bulky for table tennis. Also basketball shoes have too much rise from toe to heel. Flatter shoes are better for table tennis in my opinion. 

Another problem for big guys is finding the size in table tennis shoes. I wear a US13. Its quite hard to find those. TT11 usually has a few pairs or you could try Contra. 
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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Another problem for big guys is finding the size in table tennis shoes. I wear a US13. Its quite hard to find those. TT11 usually has a few pairs or you could try Contra. 

I belong to the same club.  I need a size 14 which rules out all TT shoes as far as I know.
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Speaking as a large guy myself with bad knees, I currently wear New Balance Men's 796v1 Hard Court Tennis Shoe (https://www.amazon.com/New-Balance-796v1-Court-Tennis/dp/B07BL2YK5J?th=1&psc=1) and it provides support for my knees while offering a wide size. Hope this helps.
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Originally posted by NotRob NotRob wrote:

Speaking as a large guy myself with bad knees, I currently wear New Balance Men's 796v1 Hard Court Tennis Shoe (https://www.amazon.com/New-Balance-796v1-Court-Tennis/dp/B07BL2YK5J?th=1&psc=1) and it provides support for my knees while offering a wide size. Hope this helps.

I'm no expert on shoe design, but this poster from several years ago claims tennis shoes are not so great for TT:
"I play tennis too, and can tell you that tennis shoes are designed to slide under heavy lateral movement so that you can slide into a shot and not roll your ankle.  They do not have enough grip for TT.  Stick with gum rubber soles for TT."

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I think it's really subjective on shoes. What I liked about this particular new balance is it had a wide size and it had gum sole which offers me a good grip for indoor courts. I have flat feet as well so this provided with the support I needed. I think people should buy multiple shoes to try.
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Originally posted by NotRob NotRob wrote:

I think it's really subjective on shoes. What I liked about this particular new balance is it had a wide size and it had gum sole which offers me a good grip for indoor courts. I have flat feet as well so this provided with the support I needed. I think people should buy multiple shoes to try.

Totally agree one shoe-type will not be suitable for everyone and it's a good idea to try many shoes.

Out of curiosity did you try any volleyball shoes?
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I have searched but have not tried any volleyball shoes because they didn't make them in wide sizes. I think comfort is probably the most important part for me. Have you seen any wide sized volleyball shoes?
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Originally posted by NotRob NotRob wrote:

I have searched but have not tried any volleyball shoes because they didn't make them in wide sizes. I think comfort is probably the most important part for me. Have you seen any wide sized volleyball shoes?

Ha! Good point. I assumed they came in wide since I knew they ran up to size 15. But after looking at the full selection, I see no wide sizes.

Interesting how some of us are forced into certain types of shoes. 
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I just got the Reebok Hexagon training 4E shoes. I like them. They aren’t as sticky as the volleyball ones but not slippery either. Good cushioning and memory foam insoles. Also, they’re very light. I’ll stick with them for a while.
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