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Does anyone know how to determine by serial number or whatever where the rubber was manufactured, that is, in Europe or Japan
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[QUOTE=osmar92]Does anyone know how to determine by serial number or whatever where the rubber was manufactured, that is, in Europe or Japan[/QUOTE

Do you believe that Tenergy might be produced in Germany? Pretty much all Butterfly rubbers including Tenergy (exept maybe the rubbers they put on premade-bats) are being produced in Japan exclusively.
Besides, all of the rubbers I bought so far (aside from the Evolutions!) had a stamp on it (i. e. on the topsheet) saying either "Made in Japan", "Made in Germany" or "Made in China"... so you wouldn't really need some sort of a serial number or what is the purpose of your question?


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There are many blades have "made in Sweden" but actually made in China (Stiga)
There are many blades have "made in Germany" but actually made in China (Donic)
There are many rubbers have "made in Japan" but actually made in China (BTY, Yasaka)
There are many Japanese blades and rubbers are made in Germany (Nittaku, Yasaka)
But if they have marked "made in China" then it is true!

BTY has branches in China, Korea, Thailand, Germany, USA,...not sure what are they making.


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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

There are many blades have "made in Sweden" but actually made in China (Stiga)
There are many blades have "made in Germany" but actually made in China (Donic)
There are many rubbers have "made in Japan" but actually made in China (BTY, Yasaka)
There are many Japanese blades and rubbers are made in Germany (Nittaku, Yasaka)
But if they have marked "made in China" then it is true!

BTY has branches in China, Korea, Thailand, Germany, USA,...not sure what are they making.



can you show me an example: take Donic - which of their blades on which they explicitly write 'Made in Germany' are made in China?

Which 'Made in Japan' BTY rubbers are made in China? From what I know, Tenergy is made by Asahi in Japan.

Nittaku rubbers (like Fastarc series) can of course be made by ESN in Germany. Do they state on them that they are 'Made in Japan'?
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Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

[QUOTE=osmar92]Does anyone know how to determine by serial number or whatever where the rubber was manufactured, that is, in Europe or Japan[/QUOTE

Do you believe that Tenergy might be produced in Germany? Pretty much all Butterfly rubbers including Tenergy (exept maybe the rubbers they put on premade-bats) are being produced in Japan exclusively.
Besides, all of the rubbers I bought so far (aside from the Evolutions!) had a stamp on it (i. e. on the topsheet) saying either "Made in Japan", "Made in Germany" or "Made in China"... so you wouldn't really need some sort of a serial number or what is the purpose of your question?

I know for sure that some Tenergy rubber manufactured in Europe 
But I found that by bar code one can determine the country of manufacturer.
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Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:


I know for sure that some Tenergy rubber manufactured in Europe 
But I found that by bar code one can determine the country of manufacturer.


Google the numbers on the bar codes which shows the origin of product. You will find out easily.

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Tenergys are made exclusively in Japan. 
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Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Tenergys are made exclusively in Japan. 

If there is a code TBE that means manufactured in Europe. 
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Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:

Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

[QUOTE=osmar92]Does anyone know how to determine by serial number or whatever where the rubber was manufactured, that is, in Europe or Japan[/QUOTE

Do you believe that Tenergy might be produced in Germany? Pretty much all Butterfly rubbers including Tenergy (exept maybe the rubbers they put on premade-bats) are being produced in Japan exclusively.
Besides, all of the rubbers I bought so far (aside from the Evolutions!) had a stamp on it (i. e. on the topsheet) saying either "Made in Japan", "Made in Germany" or "Made in China"... so you wouldn't really need some sort of a serial number or what is the purpose of your question?

I know for sure that some Tenergy rubber manufactured in Europe 
But I found that by bar code one can determine the country of manufacturer.


What does "for sure" mean in that context. I for myself would rule out completely that any Tenergys are being manufactured outside of Japan. Some of Butterflys cheaper blades (in the 40 - 60 € range) are manufactured in Hungary, but that's about it (if we exclude pre-made stuff completely).
In order to avoid confusion, what kind of bar code are you referring to? That 13-digit code on the package of a rubber / blade? Or the code that is either stamped or engraved on the sponge of a rubber?
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:


I know for sure that some Tenergy rubber manufactured in Europe 
But I found that by bar code one can determine the country of manufacturer.


Google the numbers on the bar codes which shows the origin of product. You will find out easily.


thx I found out 
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Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:

Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

[QUOTE=osmar92]Does anyone know how to determine by serial number or whatever where the rubber was manufactured, that is, in Europe or Japan[/QUOTE

Do you believe that Tenergy might be produced in Germany? Pretty much all Butterfly rubbers including Tenergy (exept maybe the rubbers they put on premade-bats) are being produced in Japan exclusively.
Besides, all of the rubbers I bought so far (aside from the Evolutions!) had a stamp on it (i. e. on the topsheet) saying either "Made in Japan", "Made in Germany" or "Made in China"... so you wouldn't really need some sort of a serial number or what is the purpose of your question?

I know for sure that some Tenergy rubber manufactured in Europe 
But I found that by bar code one can determine the country of manufacturer.


What does "for sure" mean in that context. I for myself would rule out completely that any Tenergys are being manufactured outside of Japan. Some of Butterflys cheaper blades (in the 40 - 60 € range) are manufactured in Hungary, but that's about it (if we exclude pre-made stuff completely).
In order to avoid confusion, what kind of bar code are you referring to? That 13-digit code on the package of a rubber / blade? Or the code that is either stamped or engraved on the sponge of a rubber?

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For example Butterfly Bryce speed made in Austria
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Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:

Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:

Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

[QUOTE=osmar92]Does anyone know how to determine by serial number or whatever where the rubber was manufactured, that is, in Europe or Japan[/QUOTE

Do you believe that Tenergy might be produced in Germany? Pretty much all Butterfly rubbers including Tenergy (exept maybe the rubbers they put on premade-bats) are being produced in Japan exclusively.
Besides, all of the rubbers I bought so far (aside from the Evolutions!) had a stamp on it (i. e. on the topsheet) saying either "Made in Japan", "Made in Germany" or "Made in China"... so you wouldn't really need some sort of a serial number or what is the purpose of your question?

I know for sure that some Tenergy rubber manufactured in Europe 
But I found that by bar code one can determine the country of manufacturer.


What does "for sure" mean in that context. I for myself would rule out completely that any Tenergys are being manufactured outside of Japan. Some of Butterflys cheaper blades (in the 40 - 60 € range) are manufactured in Hungary, but that's about it (if we exclude pre-made stuff completely).
In order to avoid confusion, what kind of bar code are you referring to? That 13-digit code on the package of a rubber / blade? Or the code that is either stamped or engraved on the sponge of a rubber?

EAN


OK. EAN is now called GTIN (since 2009). I have a package of a T05 Hard here in front of me as well as the package for the Harimoto ALC. Both codes start with 490 which means it is a product of Japan (EAN/GTIN codes starting with either 450 - 459 or 490 - 499 is the country of origin, in this case Japan)...


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I even found Tenergy 80 made in US and Canada

Butterfly table tennis rubber Tenergy 80,1.9 mm,2.1mm, Red,Black (BLACK, 1.9mm)

UPC720265150417
EAN0720265150417
ASINB01I4Y2NJY
CountryU.S. and Canada
CategoryTable Tennis
Last ScanJun 5 2019 at 2:28 PM
GS1 NameCook Bros. Popcorn Co.
GS1 Address1350 STATE ROUTE 1272 PRINCETON KY 42445-6501 US
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I guess if there were any factories in Austria or the US producing high quality tt rubbers, we would already know by now, through tt forums / word of mouth etc. pp.


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Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

I guess if there were any factories in Austria or the US producing high quality tt rubbers, we would already know by now, through tt forums / word of mouth etc. pp.

EAN tells the story, not this forum.
You can easily find it yourself by checking EAN
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Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:

Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

I guess if there were any factories in Austria or the US producing high quality tt rubbers, we would already know by now, through tt forums / word of mouth etc. pp.

EAN tells the story, not this forum.
You can easily find it yourself by checking EAN


Well, it seems you have missed one of my previous comments where I was referring to the EAN code, now called GTIN. If EAN / GTIN tells the story, as you said so yourself, then the code on my T05 Hard package and the Harimoto ALC package says 490 in the first three digits (450 - 459 and 490 - 499 means "Made in Japan"), don't know what else to say.


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Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:

Originally posted by Nightsky Nightsky wrote:

I guess if there were any factories in Austria or the US producing high quality tt rubbers, we would already know by now, through tt forums / word of mouth etc. pp.

EAN tells the story, not this forum.
You can easily find it yourself by checking EAN


Well, it seems you have missed one of my previous comments where I was referring to the EAN code, now called GTIN. If EAN / GTIN tells the story, as you said so yourself, then the code on my T05 Hard package and the Harimoto ALC package says 490 in the first three digits (450 - 459 and 490 - 499 means "Made in Japan"), don't know what else to say.

it is just confirming that it is made by Japan, but as I said earlier some could be made in Europe and therefore , code is the only way to know.
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just bought an apolonia zlc. In the box i read tbe, where is it produced?
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Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

just bought an apolonia zlc. In the box i read tbe, where is it produced?

Europe, most likely Austria, look for barcode number, first numbers ( 2 or 3)tell about country of manufacturer


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if they are made in eu...isn’t it misleading for us? We buy made in japan quality...
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Originally posted by osmar92 osmar92 wrote:

Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

just bought an apolonia zlc. In the box i read tbe, where is it produced?

Europe, most likely Austria, look for barcode number, first numbers ( 2 or 3)tell about country of manufacturer

this in the blade itself or in the package?
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