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support/respect/like is not the same as sugar coating something , mixing the two is being subjective
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Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

US team's games all end today with mixed double losing as expected. 
If Kanak can win, why we are not supporting him? This is not disrespect. By instinct, people always like the winner. 

Kanak was probably very tired from just finishing a tournament in the U.S.  
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Has anyone been watching Table 4? 
Table 4 stopped working at this moment.

An unknown (to me at least) young female player (THA) is very impressive.


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Has anyone been watching Table 4? 
Table 4 stopped working at this moment.
An unknown (to me at least) young female player (THA) is very impressive.
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Mittelham Nina vs Paranang Orawan (THA)
(Mittelham Nina, WR 44, is widely known.)

I discovered late, watched only a little bit, then Table 4 quit working.
But I know the result now. 
(I only watched about 4 or 5 minutes of only 1 game. Forgot which game.)

I will watch the replay when available. Highly recommend to you.

Please post your opinion about this young player (she is very young, don't know her age), thanks.


Edited by skip3119 - 10/09/2019 at 1:18pm
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

US team's games all end today with mixed double losing as expected. 
If Kanak can win, why we are not supporting him? This is not disrespect. By instinct, people always like the winner. 

Kanak was probably very tired from just finishing a tournament in the U.S.  

Yeah, I'm curious if that affected his performance.  On a side note, he pays for all his travel expenses right? (any sponsors)?  He's literally all over the place.  
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Has anyone been watching Table 4? 
Table 4 stopped working at this moment.
An unknown (to me at least) young female player (THA) is very impressive.
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Mittelham Nina vs Paranang Orawan (THA)
(Mittelham Nina, WR 44, is widely known.)

I discovered late, watched only a little bit, then Table 4 quit working.
But I know the result now. 
(I only watched about 4 or 5 minutes of only 1 game. Forgot which game.)

I will watch the replay when available. Highly recommend to you.

Please post your opinion about this young player (she is very young, don't know her age), thanks.
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Sorry, she looked young, but not young anymore:  DOB, 7-9-1997  (she is 22 years old.)


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Paranang Orawan (THA) advances to the "Main Draw."
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Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

US team's games all end today with mixed double losing as expected. 
If Kanak can win, why we are not supporting him? This is not disrespect. By instinct, people always like the winner. 

I suspect some posters would support Kanak if he was Chinese.
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Ni XiaLian is amazing for her age.  I used to put too much stock into her use of the funny rubbers, but being able to make a competitive match with a CNT player is not to be trivialized.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Has anyone been watching Table 4? 
Table 4 stopped working at this moment.
An unknown (to me at least) young female player (THA) is very impressive.
==============
Mittelham Nina vs Paranang Orawan (THA)
(Mittelham Nina, WR 44, is widely known.)

I discovered late, watched only a little bit, then Table 4 quit working.
But I know the result now. 
(I only watched about 4 or 5 minutes of only 1 game. Forgot which game.)

I will watch the replay when available. Highly recommend to you.

Please post your opinion about this young player (she is very young, don't know her age), thanks.
======================

Sorry, she looked young, but not young anymore:  DOB, 7-9-1997  (she is 22 years old.)

She beat two of the top two Hong Kong players in the Asian Games recently in the team event.  Very strong.
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Mittelham Nina vs Paranang Orawan (THA)

The match video is now available on ITTF/itTV.
Very impressive.

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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

US team's games all end today with mixed double losing as expected. 
If Kanak can win, why we are not supporting him? This is not disrespect. By instinct, people always like the winner. 

I suspect some posters would support Kanak if he was Chinese.
 
Nah he'd be completely unknown if he were Chinese.
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Nextlevel:  

Looks like Paranang Orawan (THA) has been on your radar for quite some time.
She has not been on my radar until today.

If she were 16/17 years old, she should have a great future.
At the age of 22, she may not be able to go far.
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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

US team's games all end today with mixed double losing as expected. 
If Kanak can win, why we are not supporting him? This is not disrespect. By instinct, people always like the winner. 

I suspect some posters would support Kanak if he was Chinese.
 
Nah he'd be completely unknown if he were Chinese.

Not as a US national team member.
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Nextlevel:  

Looks like Paranang Orawan (THA) has been on your radar for quite some time.
She has not been on my radar until today.

If she were 16/17 years old, she should have a great future.
At the age of 22, she may not be able to go far.

Not on radar, I just follow the sport a lot obviously.  At 17 she would have more potential sure, but at 22, we have to remember that everyone matures differently and gets opportunities differently - who knows where Paranang is playing now or what training environment she has.  Quadri became a world class player on everyone's radar well after the age of 22 and it partly came with success in Portugal, then the French league, then world tournaments.  Freitas gained most of his rating after the age 22.  No reason it can't be the same for Paranang.
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18 year old Yukiya Uda of Japan beat 19 year old Xu Haidong of China 4-1.
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WS Main Draw

Very tough draw for MH and HH. 
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Yes ... It’s a pity ... Hayata in the November ITTF ranking may concede Ekholm and Adriana Diaz ....
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

US team's games all end today with mixed double losing as expected. 
If Kanak can win, why we are not supporting him? This is not disrespect. By instinct, people always like the winner. 

I suspect some posters would support Kanak if he was Chinese.
 
Nah he'd be completely unknown if he were Chinese.

Not as a US national team member.
 
Oh I see. You're saying if he were someone like Feng Yijun. You might be right. I would of treated him the same but not sure most people would.
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Men's singles drawing is out.
Wang Chuqin is in position 30.
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Harimoto's first match will be against Kallberg Anton.
They haven't played each other for a long time, last they played was in 2016 and prior.


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XX will play against Simon tomorrow. Revenge time?
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Some bold and not so bold Mens Ro32 predcitions:

  • Xu Xin gets revenge on Gauzy, wins easily
  • WCT > Yan An
  • JYS > LYJ
  • Dima > Yu Ziyang
  • Uda gives Lin trouble, but ultimately won't be enough. I had Uda over Xu Haidong.
  • Kallberg gives Harimoto trouble, but probably falls short
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Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

Some bold and not so bold Mens Ro32 predcitions:

  • Xu Xin gets revenge on Gauzy, wins easily
  • WCT > Yan An
  • JYS > LYJ
  • Dima > Yu Ziyang
  • Uda gives Lin trouble, but ultimately won't be enough. I had Uda over Xu Haidong.
  • Kallberg gives Harimoto trouble, but probably falls short
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I think Lin Yun-Ju will be able to beat Jeoung Youngsik,
and Kallberg Anton will be able to beat Harimoto Tomokazu.

Please don't get me wrong:  JYS is a great player, but LYJ has improved so much in the past 12 months.
Harimoto was invincible when he was at his peak, but not anymore these days.

It is just my opinion, I could be wrong.


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Right like I said a year ago by the time harimoto style is known to people many will offset him lin is way dangerous he s the real top 10
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My money would be on Hayata beating chen xintong.
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The video is not that good:  Camera too high and too far away. Light reflection from the table makes it hard to see the ball.

They could have done it better.

It is just my opinion.
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Apparently an enormous mistake was made in selecting the videography staff for the live streaming feature of the tournament in the four table setup.  Table tennis people should have been involved in the technical structure of the cameras' placement and the lighting support.  Often I literally cannot see the ball in play.  It is unwatchable.
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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Apparently an enormous mistake was made in selecting the videography staff for the live streaming feature of the tournament in the four table setup.  Table tennis people should have been involved in the technical structure of the cameras' placement and the lighting support.  Often I literally cannot see the ball in play.  It is unwatchable.
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Me too.

In Swedish Open (just concluded before this one), I could see the ball easily.
This German Open, I have problems to see the ball. (Light reflection from the table surface is the problem.)

Heard that this streaming depends on local technical expertise.  ITTF does not fly their equipment and personnel around the world to do this.


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Mystery:

Swedish Open:  No light reflection from the table top.
German Open:  Light reflection from the table top.  (Hard to see the ball.)
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