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    Posted: 12/01/2019 at 8:48pm
Hi my current setup is HRT Clipper with Dawei 388D-1 ox BH and GoldArc 8 Max FH. My game is mostly chopping with long pips and offensive looping with FH. My USATT rating is ~1700. I am looking for a blade that can make my setup a bit faster and spinnier on FH and increase deception on BH. Any suggestions. Looking for any blades less than 50 bucks.
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Giant Dragon balsa lite offensive +
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Will I still be able to generate same amounts of spin with inverted rubbers with this blade. I hear balsa blades are stiff and not great for looping?
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I used thick balsa blades (Dr. N. Firewall + FW+) and had good results at my low-intermediate level due to the high reversal of the pips on FW+. But disliked doing FH drives as the ball just bounces too fast (FW+ is stiff as well). Thin balsa blades may be different. I'm back to Stiga Allround NCT at this moment.

As for the original question, my guess is that it is impossible: spinnier, more deceptive (even ignoring speed and price).
Right hand: Stiga Allround NCT (74g) /Rasant Grip max/Talon OX red (total 135g)
Left hand: Stiga Allround WRB (71g)/Vega Europe max/Innova Ultra Light max (total 153g)
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Stiga Allround NCT looks like a flexible blade how do pips perform on it? I am thinking of an OFF - that may have better flex than a clipper to help get more spin on my FH something like a Galaxy M201, Nittaku Septear Lead or Adidas Challenge Force.
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I have faced similar issue, issue is how much funk you want to keep. These are just my experiences.

Firewall blade with dtecs ox - love it, but I cannot loop with it, you can generate up to moderate strength and be able to loop, once you try to loop kill, it becomes a rocket and smashes.  But although I choose not to loop with it, I have seen one person who loops with it really well - up to 1600 usatt

I experimented with Dr N Matador and Matador Texa, you can loop with these, and slow enough for ox lp. see Luka Mladenovic on youtube.

I tried Garaydia alc with ELS and OX dtecs, you can loop awesome with this and still have some funk and spin reversal.

Tried Garaydia alc with Rhyser 50 pro boosted 0.5 OX dtec, lots of loop power but too catapulty against top loopers.  I think because rhyser 50 is very hard on the fh definitely impacts the bh.

Garaydia zlc with rhyser 50 pro and DMS Diabolic Extra slow, you can loop normally crazily with these and anti is slow enuf for strong loopers.  (still experimenting with this).

I tried many blades on the journey to find a looping blade for pips, none worked for me except what I described above; I have tried;  combi alligator, immune ox, spinlord def ultra carbon, FW+,  Dr N Jackpot, Senso, 3 ply gambler, 5 ply gambler, cos3, reimpact tachi, Dr. N Grand Master (so slow) and off off+ blades also.

Have fun in your search!
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Originally posted by pacificspice pacificspice wrote:

<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Stiga Allround NCT looks like a flexible blade how do pips perform on it? I am thinking of an OFF - that may have better flex than a clipper to help get more spin on my FH something like a Galaxy M201, Nittaku Septear Lead or Adidas Challenge Force.</span>


I play close to the table, and long pips on Allround NCT are rather harmless, unless I manage to chop-block or side-block (Koki Niwa style) against topspin and sidesweep against backspin (I should train to do more of these). Better players said that their long serves to my pips are returned with no spin. So I aim to return long and low and hope for the best.

I should check out Eric's suggestion for blades. I am also considering trying anti-spin.
Right hand: Stiga Allround NCT (74g) /Rasant Grip max/Talon OX red (total 135g)
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Hi Pitogoi 
I think the reason why chop blocks and side blocks work for u when done fast enough is cos pips get bent.   long pips are dangerous when strokes are fast, i learned and am learning about long pips from ooak.forum.  

See coach li sun on lp video. https://youtu.be/1HD5VTQpFcU 

When they serve fast long to pips either with no spin or top spin, i find to be a difficult return for pips, stepping back and doing a regular fast defensive chop will return funky backspin, quick short chop block with good placement should give enough backspin to stop your opponent from teeing off, u must usually chop block and not just block to get underspin from lp, if u do not have quick chop on blocks the ball sunbaths and begs to be smashed.  
Got to 1600 with long pips Sept 2019;

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I used Firewall blade with 05 on FH, and I am ok with it, I can loop close or far table without any problem. I THINK to increase deception on BH depends on your Technic more than keep looking for another brand of long pip. As same to rubber, you need to loop with the right stroke (Leg, Waist, Hand, wrist, and Movement before the ball touch the rubber).
I learn the lesson; as long as you keep the blade and rubber the same for years, your level will moving up (of course, your stroke should be correct also.)
My 2 cents opinion.
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