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People getting testy during lockdown.  

No doubt it is stressful time for everyone, but let's all play nice on the internet anyway.
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I hided all non relevant to topic posts until moderator of this section will make decision
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Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

People getting testy during lockdown.  

No doubt it is stressful time for everyone, but let's all play nice on the internet anyway.


i'd vote to bring it back, whatever it was. got my popcorn out and could use some lockdown entertainment.
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Maybe you peeps missed my picture above with the blue arrow? I see no more comment about the Revoldia core...Cry

I used to like playing lego so much when I was a kid and I am thinking of a mashup of that and table tennis blade core manufacturing, starting there:
https://www.123rf.com/visual/search/9853691.

Not only will I save money in production costs but the core integrity of the blade will be strengthened for an harmonious dispersion of the ball impact between the pieces via the nano glue.


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Looking at the picture Magic_M posted it looked like a one piece core, but it doesn't show the whole blade so it might not be. Looking at the picture you posted it looks like a multi piece core but it doesn't show the whole blade and the image quality isn't the best, so it might also not be. 

I share the opinion that the blade is outrageously expensive, and that is coming from a blade maker point of view. But I'm also of the opinion that I shouldn't pass judgment on those who can afford and will buy the blade. It's their money and they can do as they please.

Regarding the one piece or multi piece core, Butterfly never claimed they only make one piece cores, so you can't really judge them for something that's your expectation. I think it's much worse to announce the weight range of a blade and then having blades out there that are 10g over weight, like what happened with the Hariomoto ALC.

A multi piece core (2,3 pieces) doesn't affect performance. In fact, it can be better than a 1 piece core for several reasons:
-  Glue is stronger than wood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f90QoWOs9TE
- Wood is not homogeneous so it's easier to select similar pieces (density, grain direction)
- Paulownia (Kiri) is a relatively small tree, so bigger pieces are more likely to have more discontinuities
- Less waste


Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Maybe you peeps missed my picture above with the blue arrow? I see no more comment about the Revoldia core...Cry
I used to like playing lego so much when I was a kid and I am thinking of a mashup of that and table tennis blade core manufacturing, starting there:
https://www.123rf.com/visual/search/9853691.

Not only will I save money in production costs but the core integrity of the blade will be strengthened for an harmonious dispersion of the ball impact between the pieces via the nano glue.


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Yes, zeio said the same and I am sure you are both right about not losing anything re. structural integrity with a core made out of multiple pieces.

The picture I posted is a zoom on the picture I found on Butterfly's website, you can see that vertical cut without zooming:

It's really no big deal. It's just better when people know though, they can make themselves an opinion.

I'll stop now as I am aware I might be borderline annoying.

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I have played one hour with it. If it is too early to sum up all its characteristics, I can already say that it is a unique blade in a sense I have never played with anything like that before.
It's koto outer but feels more like anigre or even hinoki because it's soft and tender touch. If you play next with viscaria you will see what I mean even though it's koto outer as well.
Next discovery is that it is not a speed monster. A solid Off blade, no more. Very controllable in short game. But definitely enough power when rally begins to end it off.
Then comes throw angle which is high. Better stick some low throw rubbers on it or you will suffer.
Finally comes the touch feel which makes it very unique. It is not woody, not carbon/composite, not in between. Something new. It's plain, soft, steady with lots of feedback and no parasite vibration.
The flared handle is a little bit too thin to my taste but still very comfy.
Balance is top notch.
A very good blade altogether.
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I like to make blades and keep ahead of the curve on new materials or ways to enhance the way the ball behaves.

I've had  the Cellulose nano-fiber for about 4 months and made 2 paddles with it.

With only a limited amount of play with it, I would agree it does play different that a normal paddle.
More power and better feel. I also have Tenergy 80 and Dignics 05 on it.

I am now starting to work with Airblades on a new paddle using this material.

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I had mixed feelings with the Revoldia. 

On the positive side I liked the over-all-feeling and the playing-skills when I played active. For example looping is very easy with this blade. I really enjoyed this part of the game.

But besides the fact, that the Revoldia is only available with FL handle (which is too thin in the middle - especially for everyone who is used to ST handles) there is another point, which I did not like. In the passive game (for example if you react and try to block a fast topspin and don't have enough time to play the block active) the control is not very high. In this point it behaves like a 5-ply all-wood-blade. It is not as direct as a composite blade. It felt, as if the blade is very sensitive to the opponents spin and speed.

My conclusion is, that the Revoldia is somewhere between composite and all-wood blades, but more on the all-wood-side. The feeling is definitely nice and if you are always playing active, especially with topspin-variations, don't hesitate to test the Revoldia. You will like it very much. For blocking and smashing there are much better (and cheaper) blades in the market.

Personally I need a blade which is nearly as good in the passive as in the active game.
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