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Hi all,

I'm currently struggling with blade choice as due to my big hands all I've tried feel uncomfortable and leave me with a painful middle middle finger - I'd prefer to have that part under the wings at the top of the handle wider so I can hold the bat more securely. I quite like Butterfly ALC blades, have tried a few but none was acceptable (Playing with Tenergy 05 on FH and Spectol on BH):

1) Timo Boll Spirit Anatomic (too narrow at the top of the handle)
2) Viscaria Flared (same, and not a fan of Viscaria though, way too soft)
3) Zhang Jike ALC Anatomic (too narrow at the top)

The ones remaining are:

1) Timo Boll Spirit - A) Flared B) Straight (Hard to come by though)

2) Timo Boll ALC - A) Flared B) Straight (ST looks quite bulky but I'm concerned about the bat slipping out especially in powerful FH strokes, never played with a straight handle before and I am a FH dominant player - would that be a concern? )

3) Zhang Jike ALC - A) Flared B) Straight

Which one of the above would be best suited for big hands? I'd prefer something from the Butterfly ALC range as I enjoy the hardness and crispiness, which suits my aggressive power-spin game close to the table supported by classic pimples (TSP Spectol) from the BH. Thanks

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Check legend handle from Stiga. This is best for big hands
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Butterfly Omar Assar is Kevlar Carbon blade that comes with FL Large handle, not only with regular FL.

From my personal experience, Tibhar blades have big handles. If you prefer ALC blades, take VS Unlimited or Samsonov Stratus CB into consideration. Stratus Power Wood has those wider wings at the top of the handle/bottom of the head and ST handle so large that it was almost uncomfortable for me. And Samsonov Force Pro Black Edition has large handle, too.


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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

Butterfly Omar Assar is Kevlar Carbon blade that comes with FL Large handle, not only with regular FL.

From my personal experience, Tibhar blades have big handles. If you prefer ALC blades, take VS Unlimited or Samsonov Stratus CB into consideration. Stratus Power Wood has those wider wings at the top of the handle/bottom of the head and ST handle so large that it was almost uncomfortable for me. And Samsonov Force Pro Black Edition has large handle, too.

I second the Tibhar recommendation.  
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I am going to suggest something that might work for you.  If you have bigger hands, choke down on the racket.  You can see how Bojan Tokic holds the paddle.  If you do this, your grip won't be as dependent on the handle as when you have a more conventional grip where you choke up on the bat.  It might take some getting used to but it might help out a lot with grip issues. 


If you don't want to change your grip, the ZJK alc is good or you can also try the viscaria. 
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I’ve hade similar issues. Tried TB ALC flared - way too small, and ZJK ALC straight which works much better for me. In general straight handles works better for me from a ”big hands perspective”. The handles still tend to be too short.

Some people suggested ordering from a blade builder which is what I’ve done. Hipnotic (who has a thread here) has built me a Maze-like blade with a bulky handle (112x31x27). It still in shipping but I can report back when I have it.
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Hi Antanlan,

I've had a chance to hold Zhang Jike ALC in Straight handle and it felt quite nice and solid. I haven't played with it though. 

The only thing that I'm concerned about is whether the handle won't get too slippery and unstable? I like to play aggressively with my FH as well with BH (classic short pips attacks) - would it be more difficult to keep the bat in hand on explosive shots?

Timo Boll ALC seems to have an even thicker handle, any experience with that? There's a theory that Chinese players' strokes are more explosive because they use flared handles which lock their grip in place. Can I still play explosively with a steaight handle? 


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I have a friend with really huge hands.  He just buys whatever blade he wants and then takes off the original handle and makes his own, bigger one.
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I haven’t had any any issues with ZJK ALC being slippery. I haven’t played with TB ALC straight so can’t comment on that.

My problem would be that even if it is possible to get a thicker commercial handle it would very likely still be to short...
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Hi Rollko,

I had a similar debate recently. I am a little over 6 ft 4 inches tall and have large hands. I had been using a Stiga Clipper Classic with Legend Flared (the larger of their two) handles. The handle was still thin in comparison to my hand and short, and as a result the handle moved around in my hand throughout the course of a volley and in particular when transiting between my FH and BH.

After doing some research on the topic, I came across a few custom table tennis blade makers that could make a custom sized handle. After reaching out to a couple of them, I ended up working with BladesByCharlie.com (BBC). He is based in California, USA.

I received my custom sized straight handle (longer and thicker) early last week. I was also a little nervous switching to a straight handle as I've never used one prior except for holding a fellow club members handle for a minute, but I had the chance to use it once last week and I'm loving it so far. It was so much more comfortable and natural feeling in my hand and I no longer felt like I had to make adjustments to how I held the blade when transitioning between my FH and BH.

I am planning on doing a more thorough review of the blade (Hinoki Ghost) after I get to use it a few more times, though with the current health concerns going around, I may do it sooner than later as it may be a bit before our club resumes its normal meetups. But in short, I'm very impressed with the blade thus far.
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Originally posted by Rollko Rollko wrote:

Hi all,

I'm currently struggling with blade choice as due to my big hands all I've tried feel uncomfortable and leave me with a painful middle middle finger - I'd prefer to have that part under the wings at the top of the handle wider so I can hold the bat more securely. I quite like Butterfly ALC blades, have tried a few but none was acceptable (Playing with Tenergy 05 on FH and Spectol on BH):

1) Timo Boll Spirit Anatomic (too narrow at the top of the handle)
2) Viscaria Flared (same, and not a fan of Viscaria though, way too soft)
3) Zhang Jike ALC Anatomic (too narrow at the top)

The ones remaining are:

1) Timo Boll Spirit - A) Flared B) Straight (Hard to come by though)

2) Timo Boll ALC - A) Flared B) Straight (ST looks quite bulky but I'm concerned about the bat slipping out especially in powerful FH strokes, never played with a straight handle before and I am a FH dominant player - would that be a concern? )

3) Zhang Jike ALC - A) Flared B) Straight

Which one of the above would be best suited for big hands? I'd prefer something from the Butterfly ALC range as I enjoy the hardness and crispiness, which suits my aggressive power-spin game close to the table supported by classic pimples (TSP Spectol) from the BH. Thanks

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Doesn't it get slippery/unstable on power forehand shots? Isn't Timo Boll ALC too handle heavy? (I prefer head have as with TBS)
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Get a handle grip for tt companies or go to sporting goods store (like Dick's or other) and buy a Tennis Racket grip, simply put it as much to as you feel comfortable with your big hand. Stick to FL Handle if that is what you played for many years. Simillar to Samsonov, he always used Grip and sort of put a lot of it in the middle of the Handle. Picking a blade by Handle is not the way to go, you want the blade that you like to play with the most.

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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Check legend handle from Stiga. This is best for big hands
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Donic concave shape is made for big hands
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Wrap some tennis grip tape around the handle to make it more comfortable.  I do that to all my blades now and it feels so much better.

I used to play with a Donic Burn blade and that was probably the largest handle I've ever played with.  I also have large hands.  This is a good Off- blade that only costs about $50.  If you don't like that then as someone has already mentioned, any of the Stiga blades with a Legend handle would be fine.  Make sure you get the "Legend" handle and not the "Master" handle.  The Legend is made for larger hands.
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I prefer larger handle myself and I found that Tibhar Stratus Power Wood, Tibhar Stratus Samsonov Carbon, and Tibhar Force Pro Black have large handle which I believe can satisfy your need.   I am talking about ST handle though, but their FL handles are large as well.  However, playing characteristics of those blades would be different to your ALC blades.

TSP Swat is OK, their ST is quite large and comfy.


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Charlie from BBC made a ST handled blade for James Therriault recently. I held it in my hands an KNEW it was the largest, most fitting ST handle on a TT blade I have ever held in my hands... and that handle was longer than average... which made it right easy to whip the ball at the end of a stroke.

Sight unseen, I had a few FH with that one and it was massive spin.

That handle was a real good lever, might have to hunt Charlie down for a similar ST handle with a different composition, I do not like Balsa.
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Can I add a bit of my own observation here?

I know that it feels better to hold a handle that fit your hand like a glove.

However, I was curious, knowing that Wang Li Qin and Oh Sang Eun who are tall and I assume have large hands chose to play (in the past) with OC-CR master handle and Korbel FL/ST respectively.   I know those have small handles.

Ma Long also used to play with Violin and Acoustic which have very thin handle.

I tried several blades with small handles, while they are not comfy but I found that it is better to maneuver the blade when you use small handle, which let your wrist doing full motion when necessary.

And one more thing:  Same handle type will feel different with different thickness of the blade.   Legend handle on OC-CR (5.5 mm thickness blade) felt much smaller compared to Legend handle on Clipper (6.9 mm thickness blade).

I think the golden middle is blade with 6.0 mm in thickness.



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There's one more that may have effect in an uncomfortable grip - using a non-spinny rubber on BH.

Interestingly, I've noticed that every single bat I hold (borrowed from a friend, almost always with spinny pimples-in rubbers on) feels very stable in the grip regardless of the handle. This could be thanks to the index finger resting on a spinny BH rubber, and creating a strong grip with the thumb and index finger pressing against each other and thus supporting much of the weight of the bat.

In my case, using a non-spinny rubber on BH (classic short pips) results in the index finger merely resting on the BH side with the weight of the bat being supported mainly by the bottom of the middle finger holding the weight just below the head - and this is where the problems arise when that part at the top of the handle is too thin.

What are your opinions?


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