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Alex Li (AlexTT) vs Thor J Truelson (USA), Men's Singles O-40 QF, 2010 US Open

Event: ITTF World Tour - 2010 US Open
Location: Grand Rapids, USA  
Date: 2010-03-02 - 2010-03-07
Round: Men's Singles O-40 QF
Players: Alex Li (AlexTT), Thor J Truelson (USA)
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Wow. Thor played a match with no audible F bombs. I didn't think that was even possible! 
Last time played Thor before the lock down there were at least 6-8 F bombs while beating him. LOL
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I met Thor in Korea not so long after this vid I think.

Sounds like Thor keeps it real.
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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Wow. Thor played a match with no audible F bombs. I didn't think that was even possible! 
Last time played Thor before the lock down there were at least 6-8 F bombs while beating him. LOL


Vince,

When you defeated me in a Sac tourney a couple years back, did the vid tape catch me 6-8 times a point with some compliments to you?
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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Wow. Thor played a match with no audible F bombs. I didn't think that was even possible! 
Last time played Thor before the lock down there were at least 6-8 F bombs while beating him. LOL


Vince,

When you defeated me in a Sac tourney a couple years back, did the vid tape catch me 6-8 times a point with some compliments to you?
LOL. Was our match on video? I remember some comments of you pumping your self up during the match after some good shots. Other than I just remember being able to pull out the match in game 5. I can't believe that match is almost from 2 years ago.

Thor would fly to Seattle quite often to play at the club. After his first outburst (which is always at himself not the opponent) I would point to all the kids to him saying he can't use those type of words. It was quite amusing listening to him come up with alternate choices of words. He's a good guy. 



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I was too scare-die-cat to step into the ball on your serve with confidence and I paid for it. That, and you were better I believe were two big reasons you won.
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Thor raised a boy who became a man who broke 2100 with a very fluid euro style on both wings, you know, that slow/fast commitment. Studies took over as it is the norm in the USA. His son carries table tennis as a tool that was given by his dad for the rest of their life, I salute them for what the did together whatever that was because the son delivered an expert level. 
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[QUOTE=Vince64]Wow. Thor played a match with no audible F bombs. I didn't think that was even possible! 
Last time played Thor before the lock down there were at least 6-8 F bombs while beating him. LOL
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is he still playing with short pips? last time I saw him losing a match  he destroyed a rubbber a threw away his blade 
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

[QUOTE=Vince64]Wow. Thor played a match with no audible F bombs. I didn't think that was even possible! 
Last time played Thor before the lock down there were at least 6-8 F bombs while beating him. LOL
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is he still playing with short pips? last time I saw him losing a match  he destroyed a rubbber a threw away his blade 
He was using inverted on both sides this match. Previous time we played he was using his SP on his BH.
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Pretty sure that Thor is still using SP on backhand in this match.  That SP backhand gets him a lot of points up to a certain level, and then I think it becomes a liability against better players.  I've seen him try out inverted on backhand too, but I've never seen the experiment last too long (Yes, and sometimes the result was him ripping the rubber off the bat immediately after a loss Smile ).

I've played Thor back in 38mm ball days when I think he was playing at his best level (he was about 2300 at one point).  Back then it seemed his FH loop was a bigger part of his game.  It was a pretty powerful force to try to control way back when.
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I wish i could meet Alex Li and play against him. He sparked my interest back in tt almost 17 yrs ago by putting up this site. 

Yes, your coming back in tt values a lot to the your students and our forum. I missed meeting you last time when I visited Philippines a few years back, and also missed meeting Haggisv in Australia one year ago when I was there. I hope I can play with our mods and members around the world in my future travelsTongue
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POUND the Damn LIKE BUTTON on Alexli's post above or my Chihuahua is gunna get rough with your tootsie toes if you be wearing Birkenstocks.
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Seeing Thor’s name brings back memories. I can say I beat him in the finals at the Nationals a long, long time ago. 😅
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QF in an open and they umpire themselves ?
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QF in an open and they umpire themselves ?

It is in Over-40 category. 
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OMG!  What a cool video and what nice, gracious comments.  : )

I remember this match well.  Alex beat Michael Hyatt in the round of 16.  Hyatt beat the crap out of me earlier in the day, so I was excited to see someone other than him walk up for the match.  

It was a pretty tight match.  It could have went either way.  My backhand was humming along pretty well, but he hit some really hard forehands.  I remember before Alex served the last point that I told myself I would loop that serve.  I played pretty passively against his serve for the whole match and he hadn't felt enough of my loops to really have a good blocking feel, I figured.  It worked, and he blocked long.

And yes, I did play with pips here.  801 pips, with a really thick and very soft sponge.  In 2015, my well-meaning buddy thought I should try smooth and play backhand topspin.  I had played with pips since 1986.  For all of the drawbacks pips has with the plastic ball (which are numerous), I never really had a good handle on how to play points as a smooth rubber player.  For the last 6 months I've been playing pips again and have just decided to accept my lot as a pips player.  I like winning matches more than just swatting balls.  Some adjustments were what I really needed.  Not a new style.

Anyways, I remember the 1550 final in 1984, as well, John.  Most people, not least of all Vince, wouldn't be shocked to learn that after losing I kicked the adjacent chair and said some good words.  I still have that silver medal... : )

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Originally posted by TViking TViking wrote:

OMG!  What a cool video and what nice, gracious comments.  : )

I remember this match well.  Alex beat Michael Hyatt in the round of 16.  Hyatt beat the crap out of me earlier in the day, so I was excited to see someone other than him walk up for the match.  

It was a pretty tight match.  It could have went either way.  My backhand was humming along pretty well, but he hit some really hard forehands.  I remember before Alex served the last point that I told myself I would loop that serve.  I played pretty passively against his serve for the whole match and he hadn't felt enough of my loops to really have a good blocking feel, I figured.  It worked, and he blocked long.

And yes, I did play with pips here.  801 pips, with a really thick and very soft sponge.  In 2015, my well-meaning buddy thought I should try smooth and play backhand topspin.  I had played with pips since 1986.  For all of the drawbacks pips has with the plastic ball (which are numerous), I never really had a good handle on how to play points as a smooth rubber player.  For the last 6 months I've been playing pips again and have just decided to accept my lot as a pips player.  I like winning matches more than just swatting balls.  Some adjustments were what I really needed.  Not a new style.

Anyways, I remember the 1550 final in 1984, as well, John.  Most people, not least of all Vince, wouldn't be shocked to learn that after losing I kicked the adjacent chair and said some good words.  I still have that silver medal... : )

I saw that 1984 result while I was doing research on a TT history project I'm working on.
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Originally posted by TViking TViking wrote:

OMG!  What a cool video and what nice, gracious comments.  : )

I remember this match well.  Alex beat Michael Hyatt in the round of 16.  Hyatt beat the crap out of me earlier in the day, so I was excited to see someone other than him walk up for the match.  

It was a pretty tight match.  It could have went either way.  My backhand was humming along pretty well, but he hit some really hard forehands.  I remember before Alex served the last point that I told myself I would loop that serve.  I played pretty passively against his serve for the whole match and he hadn't felt enough of my loops to really have a good blocking feel, I figured.  It worked, and he blocked long.

And yes, I did play with pips here.  801 pips, with a really thick and very soft sponge.  In 2015, my well-meaning buddy thought I should try smooth and play backhand topspin.  I had played with pips since 1986.  For all of the drawbacks pips has with the plastic ball (which are numerous), I never really had a good handle on how to play points as a smooth rubber player.  For the last 6 months I've been playing pips again and have just decided to accept my lot as a pips player.  I like winning matches more than just swatting balls.  Some adjustments were what I really needed.  Not a new style.

Anyways, I remember the 1550 final in 1984, as well, John.  Most people, not least of all Vince, wouldn't be shocked to learn that after losing I kicked the adjacent chair and said some good words.  I still have that silver medal... : )


I still have the match sheet from that year.  Win or lose, table tennis always brings back good memories. Perhaps we can do a rematch. LOL
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You still have the slip?  Really??  Hoarder...  ; )

That was a great match we played.  It was 3 sets.  You won the first.  I won the second.  After that, I thought I sort of had you since you were kind of working me around with your anti and I had adjusted a little.  It wasn't to be though.  I think I got to 18 in the third.  Good match though.  I enjoyed playing it, regardless of the result.

But sure.  I'll take a revancha, if you're offering.  Alex would probably like a revancha, as well, at some point for this.

And Vince, you must really be beating the bushes for information to have stumbled upon such an obscure result.  I am doing a history project myself, just for fun.  I have also been meaning to call/text you and will do so shortly.  : )
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Originally posted by TViking TViking wrote:

You still have the slip?  Really??  Hoarder...  ; )

That was a great match we played.  It was 3 sets.  You won the first.  I won the second.  After that, I thought I sort of had you since you were kind of working me around with your anti and I had adjusted a little.  It wasn't to be though.  I think I got to 18 in the third.  Good match though.  I enjoyed playing it, regardless of the result.

But sure.  I'll take a revancha, if you're offering.  Alex would probably like a revancha, as well, at some point for this.

And Vince, you must really be beating the bushes for information to have stumbled upon such an obscure result.  I am doing a history project myself, just for fun.  I have also been meaning to call/text you and will do so shortly.  : )
Results from 1984 Nationals rated events. The photo isn't from 1984 though! LOL Oops guess it didn't work.





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Good memories for me because that was the year I won the 1550 and the 1650. Big smile

I have the photo from the award stand. LOL


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I thought a guy named Evans won 1650 and you got 2nd.  Did I get that wrong?

Evans kicked my butt in the 1650.  I couldn't return his serve.  He was a short, ripped guy, with a nice tomahawk serve and spinny loop.  Anyways, I had to play Evans then in the 1550 semi and somehow managed to control his serve and won 2-0.  I got lucky.

Then I ran up against you... Ouch
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Originally posted by TViking TViking wrote:

I thought a guy named Evans won 1650 and you got 2nd.  Did I get that wrong?

Evans kicked my butt in the 1650.  I couldn't return his serve.  He was a short, ripped guy, with a nice tomahawk serve and spinny loop.  Anyways, I had to play Evans then in the 1550 semi and somehow managed to control his serve and won 2-0.  I got lucky.

Then I ran up against you... Ouch

I managed to win 2 events. But the details are a little blurry, must be getting old. Big smile
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Originally posted by TViking TViking wrote:

I thought a guy named Evans won 1650 and you got 2nd.  Did I get that wrong?

Evans kicked my butt in the 1650.  I couldn't return his serve.  He was a short, ripped guy, with a nice tomahawk serve and spinny loop.  Anyways, I had to play Evans then in the 1550 semi and somehow managed to control his serve and won 2-0.  I got lucky.

Then I ran up against you... Ouch

I managed to win 2 events. But the details are a little blurry, must be getting old. Big smile
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Huh.  That's the tournament.

But, I remember for sure that my match with John was 3 sets.
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Originally posted by TViking TViking wrote:

Huh.  That's the tournament.

But, I remember for sure that my match with John was 3 sets.
I just looked at the results again and it (Don’t be kicking any random furniture at home now) shows just the two scores (I’m ducking now incase you’re throwing something now) Lol

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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Originally posted by TViking TViking wrote:

Huh.  That's the tournament.

But, I remember for sure that my match with John was 3 sets.
I just looked at the results again and it (Don’t be kicking any random furniture at home now) shows just the two scores (I’m ducking now incase you’re throwing something now) Lol

I only remember the last game, it was a nail biter. Embarrassed
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No worries Vince.  I am calmly sitting and smiling.  The furniture is upright and undisturbed.  : )

I am thinking they may have flipped the scores for the semis and the finals.  That would sound about right in terms of what the scores of the games were.

The last set was very close.  I remember it being rather point-for-point.  Neither player was ever up by very much.  I remember not being nervous.  I typically got nervous, but I had already won a prize so there wasn't much to get nervous about.  Despite losing, it was match I enjoyed playing.  My loop was going well (for 1500-level play), but my own serve was neutralized by John's receive with his anti.  The booting of the chair at the end was largely just kabuki for my little cheering section (Tryg, Keri Herman, Scott Bakke).  If my mom was there, I wouldn't have done that.  But, mother was likely parked at a slot machine or a roulette game.

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Alex Li (AlexTT) vs Thor J Truelson (USA), Men's Singles O-40 QF, 2010 US Open

Event: ITTF World Tour - 2010 US Open
Location: Grand Rapids, USA  
Date: 2010-03-02 - 2010-03-07
Round: Men's Singles O-40 QF
Players: Alex Li (AlexTT), Thor J Truelson (USA)

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