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    Posted: 09/02/2020 at 3:21pm
Question, I've got a rubber saying "Haifu Whale Power" (the package is long lost), which of those whales might that be? Has someone of you insight into the differences between those many Whale rubbers out there (I, II, III, blue whale, normal whale, national, training, factory tuned, and whatnot) and how to spot them?

Oh, and the sponge is red, like that of the Evolution series.

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The red sponged ones are called "training rubbers". They are literally $2 rubbers on Chinese Taobao.

Think a harder, heavier, less tacky, H3.
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lasta, are you sure? This site https://revspin.net/rubber/haifu-whale-ii-national-red-sponge.html indicates, that the Whale II national has a red sponge too?
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I suspect now that the original BW2 commercial (tacky, long throw, boosted sponge, softer than hurricane III commercial) were just the Tibhar Grip S that did not pass QC. There was a bit of variation between sheets. But they were faster and less spinny than DHS H3 Neo of the same 2010-2011 vintage. In fact, it played more like a tuned H2, TBH. Very fast. Not as tacky or spinny though, and with fewer gears. 

As hybrid rubbers improved, the BW2 commercial disappeared, replaced by the "training versions" which were 3rd or 4th rate.

If you can get a new sheet of Tibhar Grip S (not Europe), I'd be curious to check the manufacturing dates. If it's been sitting in a warehouse for a decade, and it probably as close to an original BW2 with the tuner worn out as you will find. If it's newer, I'd be curious how it plays with the ABS ball.

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icontek, I know what you're saying. Guess I'm having some kind of BW2 red sponge then. Just ordered a Grip-S to see if it's really the same! And do you by chance know about Hurricane 8, is it worth a try as replacement for a BW2 too?



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Original BW2 sponge were black. Original Grip-S sponges from the 2010/11 era were black as well.
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That info makes me a bit uncomfortable, Grip-S is said to be the BWII with QC, and it changed color just as the BWII? Did the color change have any influence on how well it plays?

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Originally posted by abissl78 abissl78 wrote:

That info makes me a bit uncomfortable, Grip-S is said to be the BWII with QC, and it changed color just as the BWII? Did the color change have any influence on how well it plays?

I can't say that I played with BWII past the original black sponge. Nor did I play with Grip-S.
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whatever you buy I would just make sure I can use it by March 20th
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