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Why does ITTF keep using this dam white ball?  You can hardly see the ball when there is any white light reflecting up.  It is a similar experience playing on shinier tables at the club too...  

Table 8 looks badly angled for recording too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJTJGf4rkxg
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Wow so many upsets already hahah
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Despite the 0-4 loss to Hirano, Bruna Takahashi was impressive.  When the rallies got faster, Bruna had the advantage.  
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Boy did I call them wrong.  Both Lee Sangsu and Harimoto lost.  This is excellent news for Kanak. 
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Tally:
Uda R128
Morizono R64
Niwa R64
Togami
Harimoto

JWJ R128
AJH R128
Hwang Minha R128
Lim Jonghoon
LSS

Harimoto R64(bye in R128), botched G6.
Only Togami left.

LSS forfeited after 0-3? R64
Only Lim Jonghoon left.

ZQH R64
WCQ
LJK
LGY
FZD

Lee Zion R64
CHJ R64
SYB R64
SHW
JJH
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Falck is out.
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his short pips didn't work much magic.
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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

Why does ITTF keep using this dam white ball?  You can hardly see the ball when there is any white light reflecting up.  It is a similar experience playing on shinier tables at the club too...  

Table 8 looks badly angled for recording too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJTJGf4rkxg
few tables were like table8. It was only little better when you watched them at FHD DeadDeadDead
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A. Kallberg R64
Falck R64
Persson R64
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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

Why does ITTF keep using this dam white ball?  You can hardly see the ball when there is any white light reflecting up.  It is a similar experience playing on shinier tables at the club too...  

Table 8 looks badly angled for recording too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJTJGf4rkxg
few tables were like table8. It was only little better when you watched them at FHD DeadDeadDead

I don't want to sidetrack this thread but as a player coming back to the game and seeing so many changes and some to do with colours, they could get at least the ball colour right.  Nobody in there right mind that understands colour, would have white lines on the table and net tops and white balls to top it off.  

I want to start a pettition to ITTF to put at least orange ball for contrast.  And no dam rubbers with orange in future... 




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what happened to harimoto in the last set? he went to the referee to complain about something
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pls, Can you provide a link to watch it. 
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There you go:


Situation is around 39:20
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https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/14215
Sports Federations with the most association members:
Table tennis 227
Volleyball 222
Athletics 212
Soccer 211

https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/14178
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Quote   赛后,张本智和在接受采访时表示:“尽管是本届世乒赛首战,对手也是有实力的,回顾比赛,我想这就是我现在的实力体现吧。”

  谈到东京奥运会的状态对比时,他£释说:“与奥运会前状态一样,只是东京奥运会团体赛表现很好,其实最近自己状态一直不好,因此在奥运会单打失败的时候并没有非常惊讶,现在也是同样心情。”

  他一再表示并不是身体出了问题,但确实就是自身问题:“在我看来不是对手怎么样,而是自己的问题,不管对手是谁,今天可能是这样的结果,明天可能也是,与其纠结于对方,不如关注自己。”

  对于接下来的男双比赛,张本表示:“为了不给搭£添麻烦,所以从明天开始要专心备战,努力做功课,因为这不仅仅是自己的比赛。”

After the game, Harimoto said in an interview: "Even though it is the first match of this WTTC, the opponent is still strong. Looking back at the game, I think this is the embodiment of my current strength."

When talking about the comparison of his form during the Tokyo Olympics, he explained: "Same form as before the Olympics, it's just that I played very well in the team event at the Tokyo Olympics. In fact, I have been in bad condition recently, so I was not very surprised when I failed in the Olympic singles. It’s the same mood right now."

He has repeatedly stated that it is not a physical problem, but it is indeed his own problem: "In my opinion, it is not how the opponent is, but my own problem. No matter who the opponent is, this may be the result today, and it may be the same tomorrow, so I'd rather pay attention to myself than worry about my opponent."

   For the next men's doubles match, Harimoto said: "In order not to cause trouble for the partner, I must concentrate on preparing for the match from tomorrow and do my homework, because this is not just my own match."
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2021-11-25/doc-ikyakumx0160225.shtml
Quote   赛后,张本智和在接受采访时表示:“尽管是本届世乒赛首战,对手也是有实力的,回顾比赛,我想这就是我现在的实力体现吧。”

  谈到东京奥运会的状态对比时,他�£释说:“与奥运会前状态一样,只是东京奥运会团体赛表现很好,其实最近自己状态一直不好,因此在奥运会单打失败的时候并没有非常惊讶,现在也是同样心情。”

  他一再表示并不是身体出了问题,但确实就是自身问题:“在我看来不是对手怎么样,而是自己的问题,不管对手是谁,今天可能是这样的结果,明天可能也是,与其纠结于对方,不如关注自己。”

  对于接下来的男双比赛,张本表示:“为了不给搭�£添麻烦,所以从明天开始要专心备战,努力做功课,因为这不仅仅是自己的比赛。”

After the game, Harimoto said in an interview: "Even though it is the first match of this WTTC, the opponent is still strong. Looking back at the game, I think this is the embodiment of my current strength."

When talking about the comparison of his form during the Tokyo Olympics, he explained: "Same form as before the Olympics, it's just that I played very well in the team event at the Tokyo Olympics. In fact, I have been in bad condition recently, so I was not very surprised when I failed in the Olympic singles. It’s the same mood right now."

He has repeatedly stated that it is not a physical problem, but it is indeed his own problem: "In my opinion, it is not how the opponent is, but my own problem. No matter who the opponent is, this may be the result today, and it may be the same tomorrow, so I'd rather pay attention to myself than worry about my opponent."

   For the next men's doubles match, Harimoto said: "In order not to cause trouble for the partner, I must concentrate on preparing for the match from tomorrow and do my homework, because this is not just my own match."
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Quote  「納得のいくプレーもあ£たけど、3-0でリードした時に自分の弱さが出てしまい、相手がつないでいるにもかかわらず、積極的に行きすぎてミスが出てしま£た。それでも最後のゲームは良いプレーが出せた。ガルドス選手はサービス・レシーブがうまくて、そこでミスをしないようにプレーしていました。バック対バックは世界でも通用するなと感じました」(戸上)

 3回戦の相手は同年£でもある王楚欽(中国)。優勝候£のひとりが相手となるが「(王楚欽は)ラリーでのパワー、サービス・レシーブが武器だと思うで、自分はそのパワーを上回£ていけたらチ£ンスはあると思う」と抱負を述べた。戸上は明日から宇田幸矢との男子ダブルスでの戦いもスタートする。こちらもメダル候£として活躍に期待がかかる。

"I was satisfied with the play, but when I led 3-0, my weakness came out, and despite the fact that my opponent was connected, I went too aggressively and made mistakes. I played well the last game. Gardos had a good service and receive and was playing without making mistakes. I felt that backhand to backhand was world-class. "(Togami)

The opponent of the third round is Wang Chuqin (China), who is also of the same age. With one of the title contenders as the opponent, he said, "I think (Wang Chuqin's) power in the rally, service and receive are his weapons, and if I can exceed that power, I think there is a chance." Togami will also start the men's doubles battle with Yukiya Uda from tomorrow. This is also expected to play an active role as a medal candidate.
Viscaria FL - 91g
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Quote   记者:你前面提到“中国乒乓·世界共享”,你在就任WTT理事会主席的时候也同样谈到这样的一个理念,�£么在落实的过程当中,你遇到最大的困难是什么?

  刘国梁:如果没有疫情的话,我相信WTT这种赛事体系应该已经有很好的体现了。疫情对于体育的影响太大了,完全打破了以往的备战和参赛的格局,所以我们随时要做很多的应变,但是我们相信疫情终将过去,我们会把这个体系做得更好。

  以前世锦赛最多的时候可以有9个单打,后来限制到7个、6个、5个,中国很多优秀的选手没有机会展现自己,所以WTT推的是职业化,慢慢淡化国家和地区协会,让球员以职业的身份去参加。每个球员的付出和努力是一样的,只不过有的球员天赋好,他能得冠军,但其他球员也应该得以展现。我相信这会让更多的孩子看到希望,看到未来。

  疫情期间,有一些比赛中国队没有参加,球迷可能会问为什么不参加?一个是我们的护照签证需要时间,另外每个国家的防疫标准也不一样。另外现在的赛事随着疫情也是随时在调整,可能原本你准备的比赛取消了,也可能突然增加一个比赛,就像这次我们世乒赛打完之后,增加了一个新加坡的WTT世界杯决赛,这种情况下我们怎么去参赛,怎么去买机票,怎么去防疫,怎么去办签证,都是非常大的挑战。

  记者:这次世乒赛你对中国队有什么期待?

  刘国梁:其实什么样的结果我都可以接受,因为在东京奥运会结束之后,我们的目标马上就锁定了巴黎奥运会,一切都是为巴黎做准备的。当然世乒赛我们是需要拿成绩的,但锻炼队伍和拿成绩不矛盾,锻炼不是为了输球,是要在锻炼当中让他们赢球,让他们获得冠军,这样才能够双丰收。比赛一定会有人赢有人输,不管输输赢赢,收获是最重要的。

Reporter: You mentioned "China Table Tennis · Sharing with the World". When you became the chairman of the WTT Council, you also talked about such a concept. So in the process of implementation, what was the biggest difficulty you encountered?

Liu Guoliang: If there were no pandemic, I believe that the WTT competition system should have been well reflected. The impact of the pandemic on sports is too great, completely breaking the previous pattern of preparations and competitions, so we have to do a lot of response at any time, but we believe that the pandemic will eventually pass, and we will make this system better.

In the past, for the World Championships, there were 9 singles entries, but later it was reduced to 7, then 6, and now 5. Many outstanding Chinese players did not have the opportunity to show themselves. Therefore, WTT promotes professionalism and slowly dilutes national and regional associations. Let the players participate as professionals. The effort and hard work of each player is the same, but some players have great talents, and he can win the championship, but other players should also be able to show themselves. I believe this will allow more kids to see hope and see the future.

During the pandemic, there were some competitions where the CNT did not participate. Fans may wonder why they did not participate? One is that it takes time for our passport visas, and the COVID-19 protocols of each country are different. In addition, the current tournaments are being adjusted at any time due to the pandemic. It may be that the match you were preparing for was cancelled, or a competition may be added suddenly. Just like this time after our WTTC, we added the WTT World Cup final in Singapore. Under this circumstance, how to participate in the competition, how to buy air tickets, how to quarantine, and how to apply for visas are all very big challenges.

Reporter: What do you expect from the CNT in this WTTC?

Liu Guoliang: In fact, I can accept any result, because after the Tokyo Olympics, our goal is immediately locked on the Paris Olympics, and everything is prepared for Paris. Of course, we need to get results in the WTTC, but there is no contradiction between training teams and getting results. Training is not to lose, but to make them win in the middle of training, and to win the championships, so that we can have a double harvest. There will always be a winner and a loser. Regardless of winning or losing, to gain something is the most important thing.

Edited by zeio - 11/25/2021 at 7:34am
Viscaria FL - 91g
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Recent Harimoto losses ( to Jorgic and Dyjas) have something in common: in both cases the opponent played an incredible match. I wonder if there's something about Harimoto's play style that makes the opponent play very well...
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I'm disappointed Yubin Shin led 9-7 in the 7th and then lost 4 points in a row.


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Originally posted by seguso seguso wrote:

Recent Harimoto losses ( to Jorgic and Dyjas) have something in common: in both cases the opponent played an incredible match. I wonder if there's something about Harimoto's play style that makes the opponent play very well...
maybe Harimoto is just not as good as people believe. 
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Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

Why does ITTF keep using this dam white ball?  You can hardly see the ball when there is any white light reflecting up.  It is a similar experience playing on shinier tables at the club too...  

Table 8 looks badly angled for recording too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJTJGf4rkxg
few tables were like table8. It was only little better when you watched them at FHD DeadDeadDead

I don't want to sidetrack this thread but as a player coming back to the game and seeing so many changes and some to do with colours, they could get at least the ball colour right.  Nobody in there right mind that understands colour, would have white lines on the table and net tops and white balls to top it off.  

I want to start a pettition to ITTF to put at least orange ball for contrast.  And no dam rubbers with orange in future... 
No way, we should ask for white rubber only and all players should wear white too. 
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Green or blue balls would be cool....
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Coming up, men's double, FZD/WCQ Vs Boll/Franziska 
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Ni Xia Lian and Sarah De Nutte are having a blast!
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Kanak makes it to round of 16...

Edited by Tiggs_1 - 11/25/2021 at 4:29pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote blahness Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/25/2021 at 4:15pm
Watched the Harimoto match and he choked hard... He was leading in most of the 6th and 7th set and then got conservative, started pushing and blocking and playing safe, which was then duly punished by Dyjas....you can't afford to lower shot quality at the highest levels.....
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Originally posted by Tiggs_1 Tiggs_1 wrote:

Kanak makes it to round of 16...
good for him, the low half is so wide open now (LIN Yun-Ju is in trouble too.)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Egghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/25/2021 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Watched the Harimoto match and he choked hard... He was leading in most of the 6th and 7th set and then got conservative, started pushing and blocking and playing safe, which was then duly punished by Dyjas....you can't afford to lower shot quality at the highest levels.....
Do you have the link? 
I watched the first part of the match at WTT website. Then, could not get the "watch live" worked after I reopen my browser.Dead


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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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