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    Posted: 11/20/2021 at 8:27pm
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It has been announced that in the highly heralded North American Teams Table Tennis Championships - 2021, held in Maryland, USA, and the largest table tennis tournament in North America, all participants will be required to wear masks at all times, including when playing.  This is per the local governmental regulations.

Increased CO2 levels in the brain, increased CO2 levels and corresponding reduced oxygen levels in the blood, shortness of breath, headaches, dizziness, difficulty breathing, and fainting will not be honored as justifications for lets during play.  

White masks will be considered infractions of the standard clothing rules.  The always-desirable face shields and goggles accompanying masks will not be considered infractions of the clothing rules. 

As points of clarification, the ball need not be sanitized after every point; you are allowed to touch your face with your own hands during the tournament; you will not be required to wash your hands seven times per day during the tournament; and the restrooms may be used in a customary manner and are not restricted to only when it is "absolutely necessary."

In the spirit of equality, all the above applies to the fully vaccinated with booster, the fully vaccinated without booster,  the single-injected of a two shot dosage, and the unvaccinated.

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i wish municipalities would realize that masks aren’t effective when wet (sweat) or during strenuous activities . It’s in the CDC guidelines ….
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I had to check if it was April.  I'd be spitting chips if I had registered to play and then found out it's masked sports.  If I hadn't registered I would sit it out.  Masks are too much for cardio sports like TT.


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There is a local senior event that, because it's being played in a County facility, required masks this year, even while playing. Masks and glasses do not go together, so I played without my glasses. At the table, no real issues. Backing up was..... an adventure. I stayed close.
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Hi,

Wait! Wait!  There may be a loophole!  Here is the latest from the Maryland county in question:

October 6, 2021

Indoor Mask Mandate Update

Prince George’s County has expanded its indoor mask mandate to include children ages 2-5, effective immediately. Previously, that mandate only included anyone over the age of 5 in the County. Now, residents and visitors over the age of 2 are required to wear masks in all indoor public venues and businesses in Prince George’s County. Similar to past mandates, exceptions exist for eating and drinking, or those with a bona fide disability that prevents mask wearing.

See the loophole?  All the teams with one year old players are gonna rock this tournament!

Thanks.
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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Hi,

Wait! Wait!  There may be a loophole!  Here is the latest from the Maryland county in question:

October 6, 2021

Indoor Mask Mandate Update

Prince George’s County has expanded its indoor mask mandate to include children ages 2-5, effective immediately. Previously, that mandate only included anyone over the age of 5 in the County. Now, residents and visitors over the age of 2 are required to wear masks in all indoor public venues and businesses in Prince George’s County. Similar to past mandates, exceptions exist for eating and drinking, or those with a bona fide disability that prevents mask wearing.

See the loophole?  All the teams with one year old players are gonna rock this tournament!

Thanks.
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We have to wait and see how this unfolds. Our team actually had a player quit over this masking rule as he couldn't just wear contact lenses for his eyesight issue. And frankly many people prefer glasses over contacts... and contacts require a different exam/prescription anyway. 

If this regulation is enforced I am sure players will be absolutely furious and people may not come back next year.   
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I can't wait to see Sharath Kamal and Kou Lei, both world class players, play in masks. I hope they have been informed about what's coming. 
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Hi,

I'm just happy I'm not going to be infected by those two year olds.  For almost two years now I've dreaded their presence around me, for the obvious reasons.  Now, thank goodness, I'm finally safe.  

When I found out the initial mask mandate for this county only started at age five, I was inflamed with anger at the negligence of the officials in leaving us all at the mercy of the two year olds and all the threat that they impose.  Sanity has finally reigned strong!

I can now, with some assurance, no longer associate my continuing lightheadedness and breathing discomfort when wearing a mask to the fault of the infection I was experiencing from the two year olds.  The lightheadedness and breathing discomfort must be from another cause.  I will keep searching.

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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Hi,

Wait! Wait!  There may be a loophole!  Here is the latest from the Maryland county in question:

October 6, 2021

Indoor Mask Mandate Update

Prince George’s County has expanded its indoor mask mandate to include children ages 2-5, effective immediately. Previously, that mandate only included anyone over the age of 5 in the County. Now, residents and visitors over the age of 2 are required to wear masks in all indoor public venues and businesses in Prince George’s County. Similar to past mandates, exceptions exist for eating and drinking, or those with a bona fide disability that prevents mask wearing.

See the loophole?  All the teams with one year old players are gonna rock this tournament!

Thanks.

The loophole is clearly to just carry a half eaten tuna sandwich with you wherever you go.
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As you know, I am a big advocate of masks and vaccines (including boosters).  But I ust wouldn't play if that was required.  The entire situation is difficult for tournament directors.  

I think one solution is to require a negative test result or up to date vaccine status, a bit like professional sports.  No guarantees in life but that would help.

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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

As you know, I am a big advocate of masks and vaccines (including boosters).  But I ust wouldn't play if that was required.  The entire situation is difficult for tournament directors.  

I think one solution is to require a negative test result or up to date vaccine status, a bit like professional sports.  No guarantees in life but that would help.


The real issue is the county where the event is taking place. Neighboring counties have a detailed list of exceptions to the "masks on" rule. Washington DC is removing the mandate altogether as of November 22nd.   

Joola's stance has been "we will comply with whatever mandates county issues" -- certainly one way of handling it. But I still think someone could have done something in this regard. I guarantee high school or college basketball is not played with masks on in PG County (any UMD College Park/Terps fans here?) I am sure there is a waiver of sort that can be obtained in special circumstances for players/participants. Spectators would obviously continue wearing masks as per the mandate.


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Surely the table length is social distancing enough during the game for singles at least.

The UFC fighters don't wear masks!


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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

Surely the table length is social distancing enough during the game for singles at least.

The UFC fighters don't wear masks!

Actually it wouldn't be enough.  But there is an easy solution:  Everybody shows a recent negative test, no exceptions. Problem solved about as well as can be.  

The next step down in security is to make an exception for fully vaccinated people..  

Compared to those two things,, making people where masks when they play is way down the list,, especially since the best ones are often white, and people are about 100%certain to not wear them properly while they play.  I guarantee, a significant number of people will have their nose uncovered, at which point the whole thing is just theater, not a real public health measure.

As for UFC fighters,  they don't immediately  come to mind as a group who would  be concerned about their own health,  at least when it comes to a virus.
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the loophole is clearly to just carry a half eaten tuna sandwich with you wherever you go.

Are you nuts? Carrying a half eaten tuna sandwich 
while playing?  Really?  What hand would you hold it in, 
the racket hand or the free hand?  Or was it your 
thought to hold it in your mouth?  You have not been clear here, and we 
NEED clarity!  We require an umpire's opinion on this.  What do the rules 
say about tuna sandwiches during play?  I really don't know the answer.


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Hi,

It could just be that this topic is a harbinger of the future.  Well behaved, orthodox epidemiologists from the finest institutions the U.S. has to offer have informed the public on an increasingly regular basis that the Covid-19 pandemic will "never end."  That every other infectious pandemic in human history has ended is not typically part of the discussion of this exceptionalism.  Why this particular pandemic is the first pandemic to not end ever is also not clarified.

Also, for a period approaching two years now, the U.S. public has been cautioned that "this will not be the last pandemic we will face."  This projection serves a number of objectives, including the promotion of a psychological acceptance of some pandemic constancy in our lives forever.

Even those of us slow on the uptake can quickly see the ground that has been laid for the future.  The permanent Covid-19 pandemic will be accompanied by future pandemics that may or may not end.  This uncertainly as to the longevity of the future certain pandemics seems not to have been publicly addressed.  We do know now that future pandemics have the potential of never ending, as a role model is upon us.

This, therefore, calls for adaptation.  Here in the U.S. I propose an extension of the USATT rating system.  With close to unanimity, we participants can agree that wearing a mask during play will have a detrimental affect on the playing standard of the typical player.  This harmful affect will be variable player-to-player, resulting in different degrees of otherwise substandard performance.  I propose that a separate rating system be developed and supported by the USATT for all masked competitions, separate from the current system that makes no accountability for the mask status of a competition.  From this, the players that elect to play in both unmasked and masked tournaments will have two USATT ratings.  

The USATT would rename the current system the UNMASKED Rating System and the new system the MASKED Rating System.  Readily one may see some of the possibilities, including MASKED specialists.

This idea is far from novel, as there is today a separate rating system for the Hardbatters.  Everybody seems to like that arrangement, so why not this proposal?

Thanks.



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Sorry guys I forgot the topic is not Houston.  That is why I was so confused...

Houston had a full arena of unmasked fans if they so chose.

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