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troubadour 
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They should just let it go, no need to force it.
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I'd put stock in merit-based team composition, with the underlying selection mechanism being JOW and LGL themselves. indigo card
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Who knows right now? WTT has no schedule after Feb 2024 other than youth and feeders. Based on 2023, there was 4 star contender 12 contender 1 smash and finals x 1 or 2. They need to squeeze in all these star contenders, champions and smash and finals and cups and glasses and there is basically 3 to 4 weeks of unusable time due to the OG - or maybe they will do a Star contender a day after OG ends.... who knows. Edited by ZApenholder - 11/08/2023 at 9:03am |
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zeio
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Posted: 11/08/2023 at 7:44am |
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Plenty of party time after Paris 2024. |
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Posted: 11/08/2023 at 6:40am |
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So a 2022 event, that is postponed for 2 years...
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Posted: 11/07/2023 at 4:10pm |
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in an Olympic year?
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Waldner Cup 2023 Postponed to 2024 with Exciting Developments
Dear Athletes, Supporters, and Media, We share a pivotal decision today; the Waldner Cup 2023 is postponed to 2024. Our commitment to athlete well-being and global excellence is unwavering, and this shift offers a brighter future. Exciting dialogues with World Table Tennis (WTT) promise to elevate the event. We thank all who've been our cornerstone and beacon of hope. While the Legends Cup and Summit are rescheduled, we apologize for any inconvenience and invite your continued support as we work toward a reimagined Waldner Cup in 2024. Warm regards and an optimistic horizon ahead https://www.facebook.com/waldnercup |
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zeio
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Posted: 11/07/2023 at 10:50am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Posted: 09/13/2023 at 4:58pm |
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My money is on Team Asia.
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zeio
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Yeah, it's funny how they got both names "wrong" for the German players. I would've expected that to happen for the Asian players.
Find the difference in 10s. 
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Who is Tim ? Never heard of him
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Maybe there is a DHS Hurricane thing going on with Team Long. The teams are unlikely to be complete but if they are, this is a job half done.
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troubadour
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They should have picked only one player from each country, that way Japan, Taiwan, Portugal would have representatives. And what is Ishikawa doing there exactly? Some WTT gimmick?
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zeio
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More like it than just Boll and Ovtcharov, but no Harimoto and LYJ?
 这个真的不是Tomokazu HARIMOTO吗[笑cry]�£服上有旗的吧 (Is this really not Harimoto? LOL There is the flag on the jersey) https://weibo.com/7360795486/NiWM4uPvu Edited by zeio - 09/12/2023 at 10:02am |
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Posted: 09/12/2023 at 6:03am |
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Waldner Cup, second try:
November 24-25 in Stockholm.
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Its postponed due to the covid situation in China. Edited by magnuseffect - 07/06/2022 at 8:55am |
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zeio
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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magnuseffect
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Yeah, the covid situation in Norway right now is not great but last two years its been almost nothing in Summer.
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It's in Norway in like July next year???
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Covid is still playing havoc with this. I mean HT and LYJ are not going to travel to Sweden right now for a made-up event.
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The format, number of players and the selection is not ready. There will be changes from this preliminary information.
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It would be fun if one match is LGL Vs Waldner.
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Big let down yano, I was thinking at least 5 male players at least since that is where the world is more competitive against China. Boll and Ovtcharov have too much influence in Europe, things can be done differently, Where are the youngers?? World does not mean "Europe". Better to Just clarify this cup as China vs Europe
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Hi, The concept of the Waldner Cup is excellent, exactly the correct thinking for our sport. From the link above: The preliminary and incomplete selection of players shown in the link is not in the correct spirit of the event. Aida is a good selection as she is at the top of the world in her class. However, having two players from the same country on a very limited team roster is not world-representing. It is China versus The World (which is a big place.) It being held in Europe, with a World Team Captain being European, the commercial value of Germany is too much to resist. Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/14/2021 at 5:13am |
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Team World = Great Disappointment.
https://www.liuguolianglao-wacup.com/cup Edited by zeio - 12/14/2021 at 5:14am |
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I'd put stock in merit-based team composition, with the underlying selection mechanism being JOW and LGL themselves.
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Hi,
The problem with "merit based" in our sport is that we only have the ITTF World Rankings as a centralized performance representation. Golf has their tour rankings which work very well for them as they do reflect recent performances accurately because of the consistency of participation of the top golfers. In tennis, they also are well positioned to employ merit, for the same reason. For our sport, we would need a sophisticated algorithm using selected tournaments and a points system to derive something systematically. It sounds as if Waldner is thinking "coach's selection" to compose his team. That would then apply to the Chinese side. Our sport doesn't have "majors" as golf and tennis do, so we are left with the ITTF system of competition categorization which is not too helpful as the participation is very arbitrary. Thanks.
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zeio
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In the interview published on Nov 25, LGL mentioned that Waldner approached LGL with the idea at the Swedish Open 2019. He told LGL if he had Harimoto and LYJ on the team along with European players, he could beat China. LGL said let's do it. They will come up with their own rules and picks.
https://sports.cctv.com/2021/11/25/VIDEn0nf38SQ7FvrpEefnjL9211125.shtml https://w.yangshipin.cn/video?type=0&vid=b000031ywov https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11Q4y1v7vb Waldner approached LGL with an idea at the Swedish Open 2019. Waldner wanted to hold a table tennis version of Ryder Cup. One year in Europe called Waldner Cup; one year in China called LGL Cup. Waldner and LGL as the team leaders, respectively. Waldner will pick the best players from around the world; LGL will pick th best players from China. 1-year home game. They will decide on the number of players and format of competition. LGL said why not, even better, use it to rebuild the Swedish TT, even the European TT with the pull of Waldner. LGL says every player who beats a CNT player is a hero. Waldner is the biggest hero. LGL asked why he doesn't coach the Swedish team, understands that he has his reasons but Waldner still has that spirit in his heart. Waldner said if he has Harimoto and LYJ on the team along with European players, there's a chance he could beat China. Edited by zeio - 12/10/2021 at 4:50am |
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Ryder Cup is merit based. Never asked for 100%. But in many years when they did Asia vs Europe, it was largely by invitation. And China could send the unknown champion to beat Europeans.
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If they are copying Ryder Cup here (not sure), then it's not a 100% merit-based there and it did not hurt its popularity. Captain picks exist there. TT is not golf, of course, but I think there has to be some wiggle room. Ryder Cup is a pretty big thing (despite no prize money involved, AFAIK) , so if they manage to reproduce the excitement and prestige, more power to them.
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