2023 ZENNOH CUP Osaka, 11/25-26

Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic

   Tieba users react after Ito's ugly defeat.  I took the time to translate the majority of the comments since we may not see Ito for much longer like one user says.

【伊藤美诚】这下是真的可以退役了
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8692608134

 hasta
凌晨熬夜看了伊藤美诚和王艺迪的比赛 赛前也知道她赢不了，但是没想到输的这么干脆！最后一局1-11差点被剃光头！心气掉了，就什么都没了！
怎么说呢？还是太惋惜她了！从17年她还没�£�名大噪开始关注她，一路见证伊藤“抛物线式”的发展。
这个周期前半段她还是有心气的，一直在技改练相持。但是后面越输越多，比赛输多了自信也就没了，自信没了，人身上�£股冲劲就没了。
原以为伊藤一个月不打国际赛是闭关修炼去了，现在仔细想想一个月又能修炼成什么样子呢？最多练一两套发球，比赛还不一定敢用。后来才发现，伊藤这一个月出去玩儿了！
IP属地:四川来自iPhone客户端1楼2023-11-04 09:57
(I stayed up late in the morning to watch the match between Ito Mima and Wang Yidi. I knew before the match that she couldn't win, but I didn't expect her to lose that easily! 1-11 in the last game and almost got bageled! Once the fight in you is gone, nothing will be left!
How to put it? I still feel so sorry for her! I started following her in 2017 before she became famous, and witnessed Ito's "parabolic" development along the way.
In the first half of this cycle, she still had fight and kept improving her skills and working on her rallies. But then she lost more and more, and once you lose too much, your confidence will be gone. When your confidence is gone, the momentum in you will be gone as well.
I originally thought that Ito was going into seclusion to practice without playing in international competitions for a month. Now that I think about it carefully, what can a month of practice achieve? You can practice one or two sets of serves at most, but you may not dare to use them in competitions. Later, I discovered that Ito had been out having fun this month!)

hasta
关于伊藤美诚，想说的话 太多了。 (There is so much I want to say about Ito Mima.)
IP属地:四川来自iPhone客户端2楼2023-11-04 09:59

�£�林阳光🍃
一届奥运金银铜都集齐了，外协会能有几个集齐的，某种程度上已经很圆满了 (The gold, silver and bronze medals have all been collected in one Olympic Games. How many foreign associations can collect them all [TL's note: Gotta catch 'em all!]? To a certain extent, it is already very complete)
IP属地:江苏来自iPhone客户端3楼2023-11-04 10:12

78纳
原地退役也是日乒GOAT了 人家可是高贵的奥运冠军 (Retiring on the spot, Ito is still the GOAT of Japanese table tennis. She is a noble Olympic Champion)
IP属地:宁夏来自iPhone客户端4楼2023-11-04 10:57
lijun猛: 单打还是没有突破 (Still no breakthrough in singles)
2023-11-4 11:17
78纳: 回复 lijun猛 :已经奥运铜牌了 还要啥突破啊 (Already has an Olympic bronze, what more breakthrough is needed?)
2023-11-4 11:45
lijun猛: 回复 78纳 :还没有平野，小苹果的单打强 (Still not as strong as Hirano, Little Apple [Hayata] in singles)
2023-11-4 11:46
78纳: 回复 lijun猛 :奥运铜牌秒了 (Olympic bronze rules)
2023-11-4 11:48
lijun猛: 回复 78纳 :平野有单打世界冠军，苹果有亚运会，世乒赛赢主力球员，不同的 (Hirano has the World Champion [World Cup holder is also considered World Champion in China, both considered as World Titles by ITTF], Apple has the Asian Games, and beating a core CNT player at the WTTC, it's different)
2023-11-4 11:50
78纳: 回复 lijun猛 :平野和苹果加在一起都没上过一次奥运单打 拿什么碰瓷奥运冠军 (Hirano and Apple combined has never played in Olympic singles. How can they be compared to Olympic champion?)
2023-11-4 12:13

中国小排骨
奥运一金一银两铜，和水鸟并且日本乒协第一，还是一届实现金银铜，单打也有奥运奖牌，这已经是日本女队其他人几乎达不到的高度了，这一届坚持一下女团银也很稳定，再拿一块奖牌就是日乒协史上第一，18-20凭借一己之力让国乒女队更新换�£，还是混双奥运首金，史书工笔都会有浓墨重彩一笔，是王艺迪陈幸同等人达不到的高度 (One gold, one silver and two bronze in the Olympic Games. First in JTTA along with Mizutani, also the first time to achieve gold, silver and bronze, and Olympic WS medal. This is a height that almost no other JNT players can reach. If she gets a hold this time, the WT silver is also very secure. Winning another medal will be the first in the history of JTTA. She single-handedly forced the renewal of the women's CNT between 2018-2020. It is also the first Olympic gold medal in XD. It will be a highlight in the history books. It is a height not reachable for WYD, CXT and others)
IP属地:山东来自iPhone客户端5楼2023-11-04 11:01
月火つきひ: 这一届上不了，国内输太多，积分不够了 (She can’t make it for this edition. Has lost too much domestically and doesn’t have enough points.)
2023-11-4 12:11
中国小排骨: 回复 月火つきひ :目前积分还差二十，后面还有两站日本国内赛100分的，还有国际比赛奖励分，伊藤还有希望反超，最后平野要真领先25分以内上了奥运得感谢孙颖莎和王艺迪，给她贡献了25分 (At present, the gap is still 20 points. There are still two Japanese domestic competitions with 100 points, and international competition bonus points. There is still hope for Ito to overtake. If in the end Hirano really leads by 25 points or less and goes to the Olympics, she has SYS and WYD to thank for contributing 25 points)
2023-11-4 12:34

中国小排骨
迷马如果打奥运女单铜牌概率很大，她面对早田上�£�，对非国乒之外的其他人比平野稳定的多，这一届伊藤如果上女单和女团基本女单铜女团银，如果平野上奥运女单，要么前面被野鸡扫，能走到国乒面前威胁比伊藤大，平野上限高下限低，看日乒协怎么抉择了 (Mima has a high chance of getting the Olympic WS bronze medal. She has the upper hand against Hayata and is much more stable than Hirano against others outside the non-CNT. If Ito plays the WS and WT this year, she will basically get the WS bronze and WT silver, if Hirano plays WS in the Olympics, she will either be swept away by a nobody, or if she can run into the CNT then she will be a greater threat than Ito. Hirano's upper limit is higher and lower limit is lower. It depends on what the JTTA decides)
IP属地:山东来自iPhone客户端7楼2023-11-04 11:04

陌栓
她还是想想怎么和平野竞争拿到单打名额比较现实吧.我看她打日本对内都难了 (It would be more realistic for her to think about how to compete with Hirano to get the singles spot. I think it will be difficult for her to win in Japan)
IP属地:福建来自Android客户端8楼2023-11-04 11:13
ok遇见你刚好: 回复 lijun猛 :就是她俩的对决，感觉早田已经摸清了伊藤的套路，以后伊藤会越打越难 (It’s a duel between the two of them. I feel that Hayata has figured out Ito’s tricks, and Ito will have it more and more difficult in the future)
2023-11-4 11:54

lijun猛
生胶球员怕研究，塑料球拯救了她，不过现在没啥神秘感觉了，以前生胶克星就是旋转和力量，现在大家都知道打她就是发长球调动，目前日本危险的还是早田，纠缠比分很强，有春秋的味道 (Raw pips players are afraid of being studied, and the plastic ball saved her, but now there is no mystery. In the past, the nemesis of raw pips was spin and power. Now everyone knows that playing her is all about serving deep balls to move her around. The most dangerous in Japan at the moment is Hayata, who is strong in holding onto the score, with a flavor of spring and autumn)
IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端9楼2023-11-04 11:16
修罗♑️: 早田就是日本丁宁，除了不会砍式发球。打球�£�格，被动防守东奔西跑，意志品质一模一样。 (Hayata is the Japanese Ding Ning, but without the tomahawk serve. The playing style, passive defense and running around, and the quality of will are exactly the same.)
2023-11-4 11:50

爱吃鱼饼的羊
手牵手跟我梦梦姐一起上第三人 (Go as the 3rd member with my sister Mengmeng hand in hand)
IP属地:江苏来自iPhone客户端10楼2023-11-04 11:35

哎呦嘿嘿嘿
感觉伊藤被团队放弃了，比赛都是她妈妈在跟和陪练 (It feels like Ito has been abandoned by the team, now it's her mother who is always following and training her in competitions.)
IP属地:吉林来自iPhone客户端11楼2023-11-04 11:38
修罗♑️: 日本应该没有适合她的教练了，或者说看不上，她们都是自己请的教练，跟咱们不一样。 (There probably isn’t a suitable coach for her in Japan, or she looks down on them. They hire their own coaches, unlike us.)
2023-11-4 11:51

Molly
奥运史上第一块奥运混双金牌，团体银单打铜，她在日本地位很高（现役没人能比的）。放松时候就去玩玩，心态轻松压力小点 (First Olympic XD gold medal in Olympic history, WT silver and WS bronze, she has a very high status in Japan (no one in active service can match it). Go and have fun when relaxing. Be relaxed and less stressed.)
IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端12楼2023-11-04 12:21

为了金牌怎么能说是遮
唉，连王艺迪都打不过 (Sigh, can't even beat WYD)
IP属地:山东来自Android客户端13楼2023-11-04 12:34
icefishcat: 何止王艺迪，只要是中国队一队的一个都打不过，之前输给钱天一 还有几个。 连华�£�袁嘉楠都打不过。 (Not only WYD, she can't beat anyone from the A team of the CNT. She has lost to QTY before and there were several others. Couldn't even beat ethnic Chinese Yuan Jia Nan.)
2023-11-4 13:28
海外�£修韩跑跑: 回复 icefishcat :赢蒯曼 (Kuai Man)
2023-11-4 13:40

为了金牌怎么能说是遮
确实可以退了，平野，早田，还有�£个不知道名字的日女都赢了王艺迪 (She can indeed quit. Hirano, Hayata, and the Japanese girl whose name I don’t know [Kihara] all defeated WYD.)
IP属地:山东来自Android客户端14楼2023-11-04 12:34

fatfatfat
要么换胶皮，要么退役，二选一 (Either change rubber or retire, choose one)
IP属地:河南来自Android客户端15楼2023-11-04 12:46
哎呦嘿嘿嘿: 换胶片如同退役 (Changing rubber is effectively retiring)
2023-11-4 13:17

霸气拽爷
伊藤美诚的高度未来十年日女都不一定有能达到的，现在一边享受生活，一边参加一些比赛，完美，干嘛苦苦和自己�£扎，伊藤真是个聪明人。 (Ito Mima's height may not be reached by Japanese women in the next ten years. Now she is enjoying life while participating in competitions. Perfect, why bother struggling with herself? Ito is really a smart person.)
IP属地:山东来自iPhone客户端16楼2023-11-04 12:47
icefishcat: �£可未必，感觉早田 美和这些都有可能冲奥冠。 混双也不保险。 (That's not necessarily the case. I feel that Hayata, Miwa and the likes all have a chance at cracking the Olympic gold. XD is not safe either.)
2023-11-4 13:16

咒術少校
迷馬….唉 想不到是直接跪0:3 (Mima....Sigh, didn't expect her to kneel down directly 0-3)
IP属地:中国香港来自iPhone客户端17楼2023-11-04 12:53

一场秋凉雨
历史地位已经可以压死我�£了 (Her historical status can crush my Jujube [LSW] to death)
IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端18楼2023-11-04 13:23

花小贝
尖叫🐔都能焕发第二春，迷马也可以，只要心中有热爱，乒乓球每场都是新的开始 (EVen screaming chick [Szocs] can have a second spring, Mima can as well, as long as the passion is there in her heart, )
IP属地:辽宁来自iPhone客户端19楼2023-11-04 13:32

ubidge
有点唏嘘的，不知道巴黎后还能不能看到了 (It’s a bit sad, don’t know if I’ll be able to see her again after Paris)
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端20楼2023-11-04 13:35

Edited by zeio - 11/04/2023 at 7:12am