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    Posted: 05/23/2022 at 11:16am
FZD series should be coming soon.


https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7837665340
37221/37224/24180 FZD ALC FL/ST/CS
37231/37234/24190 FZD CNF FL/ST/CS
37241/37244/24200 FZD Super ALC FL/ST/CS
37251/37254/24210 FZD Super ZLC FL/ST/CS
37261/37264/24220 FZD ZLC FL/ST/CS

Not buying Butterfly? No matter, rubber sales are expected to keep going up for 2022. A new rubber will also enter production later this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvZTWif9LOo


Last but not least, TIL they also use Asker C.


Edited by zeio - 05/24/2022 at 8:33am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hleett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/24/2022 at 11:16am
Missing the FZD GOLDEN SZLC!!!
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Disappointed, where is the 5ply and 7ply wood FZD? Where is the def FZD blade? BtY not taking this seriously enough.
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Is this for real confirmed? That's a lot of FZD blades, and a huge windfall for Butterfly. 
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Butterfly must be licking their chops right now with all the money they are making.  All they had to do was exploit three rules: 40mm in 2000 creating more demand for composite blades and faster rubbers like Bryce, speed glue ban in 2008 making Tenergy the go-to rubber with more composite blades, and the plastic ball in 2014 paving the way for the Dignics line and even fancier composites.  But, these profits are going to stop because it has been eight years without a new rule to exploit.  What is next? 

Let me tell you - multiple rackets.  Yes, just like tennis players walking to a match with nine rackets! Each one with just slightly different properties, tension, weight, etc.  Now you might think "That's dumb.  They need to maintain the feel for return of serves, touch shots, etc." Well, those other past rules were dumb too but we're all following them.  Once the pros start doing them, we'll all follow.  That's how it is.  So that's the next new rule that ITTF will introduce and Butterfly et al. will exploit.  Wait for it.
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Originally posted by BeaverMD BeaverMD wrote:

Butterfly must be licking their chops right now with all the money they are making.  All they had to do was exploit three rules: 40mm in 2000 creating more demand for composite blades and faster rubbers like Bryce, speed glue ban in 2008 making Tenergy the go-to rubber with more composite blades, and the plastic ball in 2014 paving the way for the Dignics line and even fancier composites.  But, these profits are going to stop because it has been eight years without a new rule to exploit.  What is next? 

Let me tell you - multiple rackets.  Yes, just like tennis players walking to a match with nine rackets! Each one with just slightly different properties, tension, weight, etc.  Now you might think "That's dumb.  They need to maintain the feel for return of serves, touch shots, etc." Well, those other past rules were dumb too but we're all following them.  Once the pros start doing them, we'll all follow.  That's how it is.  So that's the next new rule that ITTF will introduce and Butterfly et al. will exploit.  Wait for it.

Multiple rackets???? What took you all so long?
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Originally posted by zhuangcorp7 zhuangcorp7 wrote:

Is this for real confirmed? That's a lot of FZD blades, and a huge windfall for Butterfly. 


Remove any FZD coming out, BTY only have how many hundred blades?
If it wasn't for some markets performance on some of the "stars", those blades with also become 5 to 10 model options lol
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And so how does this reconcile with the Super Viscaria still hot off the grill?
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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

And so how does this reconcile with the Super Viscaria still hot off the grill?


Having 300 models in the same time is part of the company policy.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Humble Bear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/21/2022 at 3:22am
FZD ALCblade thickness to be 5.8mm vs 5.7mm of all the other Butterfly outer ALC blades.  I own Viscaria and ZJK ALC and have played Spirit, TB ALC & LGY and even though they have the basic same design but each played & feel somewhat different than the other.  I am very curious to see how the new FZD ALC plays...
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sorry...it's a viscaria as claimed by butterfly in the very same page where they show the FZD alc.

the differences you find in every blade are because each blade is different in the weight, age of wood, moisture, glue between layers, handle shape etc...

viscaria, lin gao, zhang jike, fzd, boll spirit, boll alc are the same blade
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I used to believe that they all play the same like you because the specs are exactly the same on the Butterfly website regarding reaction & vibration.  However, after I actually played & tried many different Butterfly ALC blades myself, my opinion changed. Of course no 2 wood blades are identical and are subject to differences however, here is what my own experience and findings which are backed up by my extensive research of reviews over the internet:

Speed (faster to slower): Timo Boll>Viscaria>ZJK>Lin GaoYuan & Spirit

Hardness (harder to softer): Timo Boll>Spirit>Viscaria>LGY & ZJK

Control(better to worse): LGY>ZJK & Spirit>Timo Boll & Viscaria

Balance: ZJK has the most weight bias towards handle than Viscaria; not sure about the others.


There is also some differences between ZJK Super ZLC vs Lin Yun Ju SZLC even though both have the same specs & maybe even the same shape of handle: ZJK is faster but Lin Yun Ju has better control.



Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

sorry...it's a viscaria as claimed by butterfly in the very same page where they show the FZD alc.

the differences you find in every blade are because each blade is different in the weight, age of wood, moisture, glue between layers, handle shape etc...

viscaria, lin gao, zhang jike, fzd, boll spirit, boll alc are the same blade
ZJK ALC, MJ SZLC, Viscaria
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Some reviews came up in chinese forums.  Hot sale in China right now. 

FZD alc is similar to LGY alc? softer and better feel than Viscaria?

Viscaria with a Stiga VPS handle? (a lot of people said the handle is thicker than viscaria's)
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I'll speculate that the new FZD and Viscaria Super ALC blades will become very popular, because they're BOTH a little more flexible, AND a little faster than the TB ALC and Viscaria.  Both characteristics are helpful with the slower, less spin friendly plastic ball, and the trend towards harder (less spinney) rubber.  
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