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troubadour ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2018 Location: Ryazan Status: Offline Points: 563 |
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In my opinion, at this point, both of them have won too many doubles titles for their abilities to still be doubted. All the championship they won they played as well as their partners. Everyone is not gonna be 100% all the time.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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Tieba users are left wondering if ML's back really hurts. LOL
亚锦赛未�£之谜 (The unsolved mystery of ATTC) https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8593954807 |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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Speak of the devil. Tieba users are fighting over this. LOL 经过世锦赛和亚锦赛 陈梦是女双能力最强的了吧? (After WTTC and ATTC, isn't CM the strongest in doubles?) https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8594212477 今天,就让本鹅放肆一回 (Today, allow yours goosely go wild once) https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8592585093 Edited by zeio - 09/11/2023 at 2:53am |
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tom ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 11/18/2013 Location: canada Status: Offline Points: 3004 |
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best of 5 (even) for the finals? Why don't they make it best of 3 or more extreme best of 1
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Changing topic somewhat, Wang Manyu and Fan Zhendong are often called players not respected for their doubles play, despite being World Championship winners in doubles (the titles are often attributed to the impact of their great partners). Do their titles here affect that assessment or is it still unchallenged?
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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樊振东为什么输了马龙 (Why FZD lost to ML)
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troubadour ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2018 Location: Ryazan Status: Offline Points: 563 |
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For a World No 1, FZD makes a lotta errors on receive. The errors coated him against Alexis Lebrun, almost cost him against LYJ a few days ago but he somehow escaped, but ML didn't let him get away with it today.
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troubadour ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2018 Location: Ryazan Status: Offline Points: 563 |
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This particular match was decided mostly in the first 3 balls, LYJ wasn't as careful as ML and things just fell apart quickly. Plus his forehand wasn't up to the task today ( he couldn't get anything much despite barraging ML's backhand, and he hastened to attack because he was desperate). The match ML Vs LJH in the WTTC was also a masterclass in how to guard the opening exchanges in the right direction. LJH and LYJ should not be bagelled on a normal day.
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kakapo ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/24/2013 Location: Mordor Status: Online Points: 3398 |
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Ma Long...nearly 35....winning what is probably the thoughest competition with the WTTC and the Chinese championships....and winning 3-2 Vs FZD (n°1 with a big margin)....Nothing more to add.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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MS F
FZD vs ML 45, 55, 56, 76 epic block from FZD on ML's FH pivot flick-kill, 711. 5 in a row for ML. 01 TO for FZD, 02, 22, 23, 93, 94, 104, 105, 115. Critical TO for FZD, he lost 6 in a row from the end of G1, had to break ML's streak at all costs. That's how he always lost the initiative to ML. 01, 31 slight net for FZD, 32, 42 FZD saves a slight net and BH loop parallel instead, 44, 54, 55, 65, 66 surprise FH push-to-flick from FZD but ML saves it, 67, 77, 97 FZD pins ML to the middle and backhand so ML couldn't pivot, 117 01, 21 FZD clipped the net with that FH pivot, 23 slight net for ML, 24 long serve from ML, 26, 36, 38 dead net for ML, 39, 49, 410, 510, 511 10, 11, 21, 22, 32, 34, 44, 46, 56, 58, 68, 611 ML is fortunate to have FZD and Tanaka. WCQ: Jots down Tanaka on "Entity List". Tanaka: What have I done? WH eats into ML's era just as ML eats into FZD's era. Will FZD eat into WCQ's era? (Looking up WCQ's DOB...) Never mind. Ma Zatoichi Long ![]() WH: 坐山觀虎鬥 is so fun. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() LJK: I'm here for the bronze. ![]() LYJ: Only 2 CNT players at Asian Games. Podium finish secured. ![]() FZD: My target is WCQ. ![]() ![]() ![]() ML: I'm back. ![]() ![]() ML: I surrender. ![]() ![]() ![]() China: Mapping of East Asia complete. ![]() ![]() A big thank you to ATTU and KTTA for geo-blocking this amazing event. ![]() Edited by zeio - 09/10/2023 at 5:13am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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Only China can get through China! LOL |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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matzreenzi ![]() Beginner ![]() Joined: 08/31/2017 Location: Malaysia Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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When will men's final start?
Edited - nvm, the time is now Edited by matzreenzi - 09/10/2023 at 3:07am |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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Semifinalists SYS/WYD, JJH/SYB
Silver medalists Kihara/Nagasaki ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() CM/WMY: We're back. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Wang Yi: “We should know where our roots are.” ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by zeio - 09/10/2023 at 2:55am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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NextLevel ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: 12/15/2011 Location: Somewhere Good Status: Offline Points: 14736 |
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I found it depressing to be honest, that LYJ was so thoroughly contained by that game plan given how well he usually plays against ML and how old ML is. Is there no hope to beat these CNT tactics?
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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troubadour ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2018 Location: Ryazan Status: Offline Points: 563 |
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Ma Long was thoroughly prepared for the long serve to the backhand and middle today, I'm surprised to see LYJ attempt that much after the first couple of serves didn't work as he wanted in the 2nd and 3rd set, I was expecting a closer contest. The 2nd and 3rd set was a battle of wits, the backhand wide to the forehand came to ML's rescue a lot. An efficient way to open the game up away from LYJ's backhand strength.
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kindof99 ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/07/2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4167 |
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Finally, another ML FZD match
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bard romance ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 02/18/2016 Location: FL Status: Offline Points: 1166 |
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Working now. Thanks.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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bard romance ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 02/18/2016 Location: FL Status: Offline Points: 1166 |
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Any stream? No luck with zeio's links above.
Edited by bard romance - 09/09/2023 at 11:31pm |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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MS SF
FZD vs LJK 21, 31, 32, 42, service warning for LJK, 43, 53, 65, 68, 78, 79 dead net for LJK, 89, 810, 1110, 1111, 1211, 1212, 1312, 1313, 1413 slight endline edge for FZD and TO for FZD, 1414, 1514 FZD's kick serve ACE took LJK totally by surprise, 1516, 1716, 1717, 1917 FZD recovered from a receive pop-up 03, 13, 66, 76 TO for LJK, 710, 810, 811 20, 21, 31, 32, 72, 75 LJK turns to high-toss serve, 85, 95, 97, 117 02, 22 epic FH from FZD, 23, 53, 57 FZD missed the fishing lob, 58, 68, 78 FZD turns to kick serve, 118. FZD drops 5 in a row only to takes 6 in another row. ML vs LYJ 02, 22, 23, 33, 34, 64, 67, 107, 108, 118 50, 51, 61, 72, 82, 83, 93, 94, 114 01, 21, 23, 53 TO for LYJ, 54 ML served long and off the table, 55 epic BH from LYJ, 85, 87 epic FH from LYJ, 97, 98, 118 ![]() ![]() ![]() Emotion management: WH = Qiu Yike > Mlin ![]() ![]() Edited by zeio - 09/10/2023 at 12:15am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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Same here. |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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JJH/SYB vs SYS/W
511 115 78 TO for CHN, 88, 810, 910, 911 03 TO for KOR, 23, 24, 44, 45, 55, 57, 67, 68, 88, 810 JJH drops two points, 811 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Emotion management: Qiu Yike > MLin ![]() ![]() |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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If only Kihara and Nagasaki were as good as Hirano and Hayata in singles...
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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WD SF
Kihara/Nagasaki vs WMY/CM 66, 86, 97, 107, 108, 118 30, 32. 42, 45, 55, 56, 76 CM has some trouble dealing with Nagasaki's serve, 77, 87, 88, 98 same for WMY with Kihara's serve, 99, 119 Nagasaki takes 2 off of WMY's serve! 02, 12 CM drops 2 points on Kihara's serve, 32 TO for CHN, 34, 44, 45, 55 Kihara's 推挑/block-flick is causing tons of trouble, 75, 77 two kick serves from CM, 78, 88 CM having trouble keeping up in rallies, 89, 99, 911 10, 12, 22, 29, 39, 310, 510, 511 03 TO for JPN, 04, 14 CM serves into the net, 24, 25 Kihara misses the FH backspin opener, 35 Nagasaki hangs in there, 36 Kihara misses the block-flick, 37, 47 WMY still has trouble keeping Kihara's serve tight, 48, 78 Nagasaki strong in the rallies, 88 Kihara's back, 810 Kihara risks the receiving, 811 2 points in a row for Nagasaki there ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() From 7:5 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Emotion management: MLin < Wang Rui ![]() W Zatoichi Miyu smile ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by zeio - 09/09/2023 at 10:24pm |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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Tieba users are poking fun at WCQ for that.
遮球被破�£了,终于 (Hidden serve got cracked, finally) https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8590465010 |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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Interesting insight from Tanaka on 3-2 WCQ. He expresses his gratitude to his physiotherapist 香川英信/KAGAWA Hidenobu for body maintenance and bench coach 李龍�£�/Li Longfei for game plan. On perfectly handling WCQ's shovel serve at 12:12 in G2, Tanaka says that in the MT match between Harimoto and WCQ, he learned that the shovel serve was mostly topspin, and while he was prepared, that turned out to be case in the match. He is glad that intel proved useful. Even though he wasn't as confident in the rallies, they were easier to handle than he imagined and that gave him confidence. (Interestingly, Togami felt the same about WCQ after WTTC 2021.)
https://www.butterfly.co.jp/takurepo/tournament/detail/023103.html
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93442&PID=1144503&title=attc-2023-pyeongchang-9-310#1144503
Turns out he injured somewhere around his thumb during warmup on the day of MT (not specified but 9/4, which would explain why he skipped the position matches against KAZ and IRI the next day), that it would be a lie if it did not affect him, but whether it be techniques, tactics, psyche as well as injuries, it is his responsibility. On 1-3 Noroozi, Harimoto said he felt ok during practice but things were still different in the match, and he couldn't handle Noroozi's serve in their first encounter. He praised Noroozi for having very good serves and making few errors in the rallies. Harimoto says his confidence in playing good matches when in form remains strong, but outside of that there are many immaturities and areas to pay attention and he wants to prepare well for the Asian Games. https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2023/09/029877.html
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10700 |
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China's IP needed.
https://www.miguvideo.com/p/live/120000472391 CCTV5 live streams without the need for China's IP. https://www.right.com.cn/forum/thread-8302203-1-1.html Edited by zeio - 09/09/2023 at 9:07am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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