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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

so Adriana might get the same?

Yes, surely. She's also in mixed doubles with Brian Afanador.
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so Adriana might get the same?
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Congrats to Adriana.  Making the finals should be enough to get her back into the top 10.  

She is soon going to lose her continental points from last year so she will fall out again pretty soon.  They will be replaced by Semifinal points from this year's Panamerican Champs.
I see that she's signed up for WTT Champions Frankfurt.  Wonder if it would be better for her to join the Pan Am Games instead for the points:


It looks like she doesn't have a choice:

Players shall be added automatically to the event entry list by WTT based on the ITTF TTWR published at the entry deadline. The participation of players is mandatory.

It's pretty unbelievable that WTT schedules a Champions tournament at the same time as Pan Am Games. This also affects Hugo, Bruna, Amy, and Lily - seriously?

Team USA roster for the Pan Am Games does include Lily and Amy - so I guess they are getting an exemption from WTT.
https://www.usatt.org/news/2023/october/13/us-table-tennis-roster-announced-for-the-2023-pan-am-games-in-santiago-chile

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Should be 4-2 Nagasaki at Hungarian Open 2020. Copied the wrong line (working on quite a few players concurrently).
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

WS F
Hayata 4-0 Diaz (7, 5, 5, 6)

Qiu Jianxin is really something, getting Diaz to the final.

SF Harimoto 2-3 Diaz (her 2nd win over top JNT players, after 3-2 Nagasaki at WTT CT Lima 2022)
QF Lee Zion 2-3 Diaz
R32 Pavade 2-3 Diaz
Miyu Nagasaki won 3-2.  I remember that tournament because Miyu lost to Mittelham in the Finals.

Nonetheless, a great win for Adriana over Miwa in this tournament
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Hugo wins 4-3, but it's good to see Pitchford make the Finals.
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WS F
Hayata 4-0 Diaz (7, 5, 5, 6)

Qiu Jianxin is really something, getting Diaz to the final.

SF Harimoto 2-3 Diaz (her 2nd win over top JNT players in WS, after 3-2 Nagasaki at WTT CT Lima 2022 4-2 Nagasaki at Hungarian Open 2020)
QF Lee Zion 2-3 Diaz
R32 Pavade 2-3 Diaz

Edited by zeio - 10/14/2023 at 10:35am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Hayata just too much for Adriana.
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Congrats to Adriana.  Making the finals should be enough to get her back into the top 10.  

She is soon going to lose her continental points from last year so she will fall out again pretty soon.  They will be replaced by Semifinal points from this year's Panamerican Champs.
I see that she's signed up for WTT Champions Frankfurt.  Wonder if it would be better for her to join the Pan Am Games instead for the points:


It looks like she doesn't have a choice:

Players shall be added automatically to the event entry list by WTT based on the ITTF TTWR published at the entry deadline. The participation of players is mandatory.

It's pretty unbelievable that WTT schedules a Champions tournament at the same time as Pan Am Games. This also affects Hugo, Bruna, Amy, and Lily - seriously?
Wow, yeah that is seriously poor timing.  The points by winning her match vs. Miwa are huge especially in this context.  
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Congrats to Adriana.  Making the finals should be enough to get her back into the top 10.  

She is soon going to lose her continental points from last year so she will fall out again pretty soon.  They will be replaced by Semifinal points from this year's Panamerican Champs.
I see that she's signed up for WTT Champions Frankfurt.  Wonder if it would be better for her to join the Pan Am Games instead for the points:


It looks like she doesn't have a choice:

Players shall be added automatically to the event entry list by WTT based on the ITTF TTWR published at the entry deadline. The participation of players is mandatory.

It's pretty unbelievable that WTT schedules a Champions tournament at the same time as Pan Am Games. This also affects Hugo, Bruna, Amy, and Lily - seriously?
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Conspiracy or not, w/o continental points, Diaz is the one in top 20 with the biggest drop this time. YXX is once again the only European to be inside top 10. Mittelham, SXN and Takahashi are also once again where they should be.

2022 Week 36 – 6th September 2022
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91440&PID=1131384&title=joola-global-championships#1131384
Quote For the women's ranking, Mittelham, Shan Xiaona and Takahashi would actually be outside the top 20 without the continental result.


http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91440&PID=1131388&title=joola-global-championships#1131388
Quote Diaz would still be in top 20, but she would be the one with the biggest drop after those 3, other than the few who would drop outside top 50.
YXX would be the only European to be inside top 10.
Han Ying and Pocalnova would be just outside top 10.


2023 Week 41 – 10th October 2023 (updated at 6:30 GMT)
https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023_41_SEN_WS.html
7 Ito -> 8 (2190-350+90=1930)
8 Hayata -> 9 (2135-350+5=1790)
9 SYB -> 7 (2095-175+70=1990)
10 Han Ying -> 16 (1600-500+0=1100) 7 evts
11 Szocs -> 15 (1555-500+55=1110)
12 Diaz -> 19 (1540-500+35=1075)
13 YXX -> 10 (1520-350+90=1260)
14 CIC -> 11 (1285-90+55=1250)
15 Harimoto -> 12 (1195)
16 Zhang Rui -> 13 (1175) 4 evts
17 Hirano -> 14 (1165-45+0=1120) 7 evts
18 KM -> 17 (1095)
19 FSQ -> 18 (1080) 5 evts
20 YJN -> 21 (1035-90+35=980)
21 Joo Cheonhui -> 20 (1025)
22 Mittelham -> 23 (955-175+15=795)
23 Polcanova -> top 40 (935-350+0=585) 6 evts
24 Takahashi -> top 40 (880-350+15=545)
25 Kihara -> 22 (880)
26 Meshref -> top 50 (770-350+15=435)
27 Samara -> top 40 (740-175+25=590)
28 Nagasaki -> 24 (715)
29 SXN -> 25 (715)
30 Liu Yangzi -> outside top 50 (705-500+4=209)

迪亚兹居然:3输美和 (Diaz surprisingly lost to Miwa 0-3)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8558949305
迪亚兹好像进步不少 (Diaz appears to have improved a bit)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8307817222

Edited by zeio - 10/14/2023 at 2:12pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Matsushima/Harimoto 1-3 LYJ/CSY (-7, 16, -8, -4)
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Diaz will never peel off the "overrated" label if she keeps doing that. I doubt she paid Qiu Jianxin for that.

What do you by "keeps"?  Is it her fault that the WTT is doing what they are doing and are you accusing her of willfully exploiting that to inflate her ranking in some manner different from Hugo, Omar and Quadri?  If her game is good enough, it will show, continental inflation or not.
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Diaz will never peel off the "overrated" label if she keeps doing that. I doubt she paid Qiu Jianxin for that.
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Good effort from Nagasaki, but Hayata is the Japanese TT alpha queen.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Congrats to Adriana.  Making the finals should be enough to get her back into the top 10.  

She is soon going to lose her continental points from last year so she will fall out again pretty soon.  They will be replaced by Semifinal points from this year's Panamerican Champs.
I see that she's signed up for WTT Champions Frankfurt.  Wonder if it would be better for her to join the Pan Am Games instead for the points:

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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Congrats to Adriana.  Making the finals should be enough to get her back into the top 10.  

She is soon going to lose her continental points from last year so she will fall out again pretty soon.  They will be replaced by Semifinal points from this year's Panamerican Champs.
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Congrats to Adriana.  Making the finals should be enough to get her back into the top 10.  
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WS SF
Harimoto vs Diaz with Qiu Jianxin at the bench (-4, -12, 9, 10, -7)
G2 62, 65, TO for Harimoto, 95, 96, 99, 109, 1011, 1111, 1112 TO for Diaz, 1214
G3 96, 99, 119
G4 34, 35 endline edge for Diaz, 37 two backspin shovel serve from Diaz, 67, 68 net for Diaz, 88, 810, 1210
G5 20, 22, 32, 33 Harimoto smashed the medium high ball into the net, 43, 45, 55, 59, 710 corner edge for Diaz, 711
Qiu Jianxin plus all those nets and edges...

MS SF
Gauzy 2-3 Calderano (9, 9, -7, -2, -7)

WS SF
Hayata 3-2 Nagasaki (-9, 7, 3, -10, 2)
G4 108, 1012
G5 90, 91, 101, 102, 112

Edited by zeio - 10/13/2023 at 11:32am
Viscaria FL - 91g
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A good win for Nagasaki over CSY who beat Jia Nan Yuan. She will face Hayata in the SF. Miwa vs. Adriana Diaz in the other half.

Edited by pongfugrasshopper - 10/13/2023 at 7:01am
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pitchford's low lying loops are a beauty.
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Harimoto 2-3 Kallberg (5, -9, 9, -4, -7)
G5 03, 53, 54, 64, 68, 78, 711
After WTT CT Lanzhou 2023, it seems Harimoto has reverted to/insisted on his own vision here, with his dad at the bench, as if having a point to prove (which tends to happen whenever his dad is in the coaching seat).

Pitchford 3-1 Matsushima (9, 4, -9, 8)

Gauzy 3-1 Oh Junsung (5, 8, -8, 3)
Slowly but surely, Gauzy is on an upward trajectory again.

WD SF
CSY/Huang Yi-Hua 2-3 Ng Wing Lam/Zhu ChengZhu (9, 10, -7, -5, -11)

Edited by zeio - 10/13/2023 at 6:51am
Viscaria FL - 91g
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Notice the limp at the end of the match, on top of the wrist injury since ATTC 2023.

You are right.
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Sora Matsushima takes down Togami 3-1.  
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Notice the limp at the end of the match, on top of the wrist injury since ATTC 2023.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

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Karlsson/Kallberg 3-2 Qiu Dang/Duda (3, -9, 9, -6, 6)

WS R16
Hayata 3-2 YHE (-5, 9, 9, -11, 10)
G5 810, 1010 endline edge for Hayata, 1210

Bajor 0-3 Harimoto (-8, -9, -10)
G3 106, 1012
Didn't make the same mistake this time.

MD QF
Jarvis/Pitchford 3-2 Yiu Kwan To/Chan Baldwin (8, 7, -6, -8, 6)

MS R16
Harimoto 3-2 Shinozuka (8, -9, 7, -10, 10)
G4 109, 1012
G5 12 medical TO for Harimoto, 56 TO for Harimoto, 109, 1010, 1210 Shinozuka served into the net
Cramps again?

No, it was something with his right arm/hand
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Even though he's so laid back and doesn't look engaged, Matsushima was easily the best player of the four out there.  His placement was excellent and plays within himself allowing Miwa to flourish, and poor Hayata was often on the receiving end of his loop bombs.  If he keeps this up, why not consider him for the 3rd player to play doubles in XD and Men's Teams doubles in Paris.

I hope I'm wrong, but Hayata seems tired to me.  I guess the thinking is there's just a few WTT tournaments left in the year, and she probably won't be entering Paris Trial #6 so she's got nothing to lose.
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Harimoto/Hayata 1-3 Matsushima/Harimoto (8, -10, -4, -6)

MS/WS R16
S. Akula 0-3 Nagasaki (-5, -7, -6)
Rolland 2-3 Calderano (5, 11, -4, -7, -8)
YJN 2-3 CSY (8, 10, -12, -5, -6)

LYJ 1-3 Pitchford (-6, -9, 3, -9)
G4 610, 910 TO for Pitchford, 911

MD QF
Ecseki/Majoros 2-3 Franziska/Ovtcharov (-9, -5, 7, 7, -8)

MS/WS R16
Mittelham 3-2 Zhu Chengzhu (9, -6, 7, -9, 6)
Robles 2-3 Oh Junsung (8, 4, -6, -7, -6)

Lee Zion 3-2 Kim Nayeong (7, 10, -6, -9, 9)
Kim Nayeong has been performing under expectation (19/34=~56% win rate as of now) after a somewhat interesting 2022.

Edited by zeio - 10/12/2023 at 12:15pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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