Rankings are out now. Hayata moves up a spot to WR#5. Felix is at WR#9. Dima is at WR#8. LYJ down to WR#10. Next week, points from WTT Finals expire. This is huge for Tomo as has 1050 points from last year's WTT Finals. He still should remain in top 10, but on the lower end.
And another one: 190 pts played in 1h03, decider game then. And this was after 15 days of World Championships cos' there was also the teams tournament at that time ! now it barely last 9 days, no teams event at the same time, man... If Waldner Saive and Gatien were still in their 30 nowadays, that would be too much easy for them...
Tennis and Badminton are similar sports to TT in their make-up and the use of space, Is the serve and receive solely based on the server's will in these sports? Seems like the receiver has some say to me.
I watch badminton often and due to the nature of the long rallies, players are often breathless and they'll delay the server by a couple seconds to catch their breath. Even the server delays too because he's been running all along the pitch all day. Tennis give the players breaks after every set.
Should we not allow players catch their breath after big rallies or reorientate themselves because the server wants to serve immediately he catches the ball?
They can always do a 10 second grace before service, then a warning, then penalties.
In tennis, this happens too, sometimes an umpire might accept a delay after a more taxing point before starting the clock. The main point here is that there needs to be more objectivity brought to the issue. A delay after an especially taxing and entertaining point is very different from what we see nowadays, where many players take forever to enter their playing stance and start a point, and it is becoming normalized to the point that we are now blaming people who are simply playing when they are ready for not waiting for the opponent to be ready. Tennis, obviously the richest of these sports, is using clocks at big events to improve pace of play. But even without clocks, it would help to address the issue.
please don't bring in other sports. Do talk about rules that pertains to TT and the rights of the server and receiver
We bring other sports to show how those clock rules have made them popular and to explain how TT would benefit from these. What are the most watched events todays ? the ones we have named. Tennis, MLB, NFL, football, rugby, basket-ball be it NBA or Euroleague (and we all know you north americans LOVE the commercials breaks to get your Bud Light or your snacks... or peeing !).
Who are you to say that ? is there any rule in this forum stating we should not compare table tennis with other sports specially when it comes to rules and player's etiquette ? I mean, even rugby referees have seen bad habits emerging when rugby became a pro sport in the early 90's, you should have a talk with Nigel Owens about player's bad habits and foul plays, it's the same bad habits in ALL sports, but only TT does not do anything.
The WTT referees should really take lessons with Nigels Owens
my request is based on the fact that we were discussing whether DIMA broke the rules by slow receiving. of course you can discuss what happens in other sports but as a direct response to the above discussion, you are moving the goal post
Foul play is not determined by the rules only, but also by the etiquette. So sorry, but you're nobody here to tell if we are or not allowed to talk about DIma's and other players behavior. because it's all about behaviors coming from other sports like tennis or football.
Just have a look at this: 2 guys in the world top 10 in 1991, one has been number 1 and world champion already at that time, see the pace of BOTH players in REAL TIME.
21 pts game, no time out, you have to wait 21 to get a water break, towel break each 5 pts. No bouncing, no hand raising, nothing. 159 points played in less than 45 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1FQyJmBHok
THIS is good behavior and the right etiquette. Gatien is out of stamina at the end, that's why he makes a wrong serve. Peopple saying today's TT is way more physical tna 30 years ago or ignorant. I mean... I've played both systems, and todays 11pts is way easier physically speaking, you have a break wooner than before
It took 1 hour to Dima to loose that final 2 days ago with towel breaks each 6 and water breaks each 11 pts for... 146 pts only ! with more breaks than 30 years ago he needs to raise his hand, to bounce the ball, to fake a broken ball, man it's not soccer ! (as Nigel Owens would certainly tell him).
TT is going for worse nowadays with those wrong behaviors, Eurosport was airing big competitions until the covid, now since it's China controlling everything, no hidden serve is enforced because it's not ok for Ma Long and Wang Chuqin, no raising hands is enforced because it would not help the CNT, and now the big broadcasters do not care anymore for TT.
11 point games have raised the value of a single point, so it does make more sense that players want to invest more time preparing for each point vs the 21 point days. But whether that is a good thing or not, I will leave to the ITTF. Pace of play is a consideration in all sports entertainment.
Rankings are out now. Hayata moves up a spot to WR#5. Felix is at WR#9. Dima is at WR#8. LYJ down to WR#10. Next week, points from WTT Finals expire. This is huge for Tomo as has 1050 points from last year's WTT Finals. He still should remain in top 10, but on the lower end.
please don't bring in other sports. Do talk about rules that pertains to TT and the rights of the server and receiver
We bring other sports to show how those clock rules have made them popular and to explain how TT would benefit from these. What are the most watched events todays ? the ones we have named. Tennis, MLB, NFL, football, rugby, basket-ball be it NBA or Euroleague (and we all know you north americans LOVE the commercials breaks to get your Bud Light or your snacks... or peeing !).
Who are you to say that ? is there any rule in this forum stating we should not compare table tennis with other sports specially when it comes to rules and player's etiquette ? I mean, even rugby referees have seen bad habits emerging when rugby became a pro sport in the early 90's, you should have a talk with Nigel Owens about player's bad habits and foul plays, it's the same bad habits in ALL sports, but only TT does not do anything.
The WTT referees should really take lessons with Nigels Owens
my request is based on the fact that we were discussing whether DIMA broke the rules by slow receiving. of course you can discuss what happens in other sports but as a direct response to the above discussion, you are moving the goal post
Foul play is not determined by the rules only, but also by the etiquette. So sorry, but you're nobody here to tell if we are or not allowed to talk about DIma's and other players behavior. because it's all about behaviors coming from other sports like tennis or football.
Just have a look at this: 2 guys in the world top 10 in 1991, one has been number 1 and world champion already at that time, see the pace of BOTH players in REAL TIME.
21 pts game, no time out, you have to wait 21 to get a water break, towel break each 5 pts. No bouncing, no hand raising, nothing. 159 points played in less than 45 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1FQyJmBHok
THIS is good behavior and the right etiquette. Gatien is out of stamina at the end, that's why he makes a wrong serve. Peopple saying today's TT is way more physical tna 30 years ago or ignorant. I mean... I've played both systems, and todays 11pts is way easier physically speaking, you have a break wooner than before
It took 1 hour to Dima to loose that final 2 days ago with towel breaks each 6 and water breaks each 11 pts for... 146 pts only ! with more breaks than 30 years ago he needs to raise his hand, to bounce the ball, to fake a broken ball, man it's not soccer ! (as Nigel Owens would certainly tell him).
TT is going for worse nowadays with those wrong behaviors, Eurosport was airing big competitions until the covid, now since it's China controlling everything, no hidden serve is enforced because it's not ok for Ma Long and Wang Chuqin, no raising hands is enforced because it would not help the CNT, and now the big broadcasters do not care anymore for TT.
music & ping, none of my posts responded to any of your posts except when you addressed me directly today. Please check the flow of the conversation before you make your grand judgements. For talking about DIMA's slow receive, where did I say you shouldn't talk about it in general? As for etiqutte it is the current ones that are relavent and I think quite a few people would say both fast serving and slow receiving are both discourteous.
please don't bring in other sports. Do talk about rules that pertains to TT and the rights of the server and receiver
We bring other sports to show how those clock rules have made them popular and to explain how TT would benefit from these. What are the most watched events todays ? the ones we have named. Tennis, MLB, NFL, football, rugby, basket-ball be it NBA or Euroleague (and we all know you north americans LOVE the commercials breaks to get your Bud Light or your snacks... or peeing !).
Who are you to say that ? is there any rule in this forum stating we should not compare table tennis with other sports specially when it comes to rules and player's etiquette ? I mean, even rugby referees have seen bad habits emerging when rugby became a pro sport in the early 90's, you should have a talk with Nigel Owens about player's bad habits and foul plays, it's the same bad habits in ALL sports, but only TT does not do anything.
The WTT referees should really take lessons with Nigels Owens
my request is based on the fact that we were discussing whether DIMA broke the rules by slow receiving. of course you can discuss what happens in other sports but as a direct response to the above discussion, you are moving the goal post
Foul play is not determined by the rules only, but also by the etiquette. So sorry, but you're nobody here to tell if we are or not allowed to talk about DIma's and other players behavior. because it's all about behaviors coming from other sports like tennis or football.
Just have a look at this: 2 guys in the world top 10 in 1991, one has been number 1 and world champion already at that time, see the pace of BOTH players in REAL TIME.
21 pts game, no time out, you have to wait 21 to get a water break, towel break each 5 pts. No bouncing, no hand raising, nothing. 159 points played in less than 45 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1FQyJmBHok
THIS is good behavior and the right etiquette. Gatien is out of stamina at the end, that's why he makes a wrong serve. Peopple saying today's TT is way more physical tna 30 years ago or ignorant. I mean... I've played both systems, and todays 11pts is way easier physically speaking, you have a break wooner than before
It took 1 hour to Dima to loose that final 2 days ago with towel breaks each 6 and water breaks each 11 pts for... 146 pts only ! with more breaks than 30 years ago he needs to raise his hand, to bounce the ball, to fake a broken ball, man it's not soccer ! (as Nigel Owens would certainly tell him).
TT is going for worse nowadays with those wrong behaviors, Eurosport was airing big competitions until the covid, now since it's China controlling everything, no hidden serve is enforced because it's not ok for Ma Long and Wang Chuqin, no raising hands is enforced because it would not help the CNT, and now the big broadcasters do not care anymore for TT.
Have you ever looked at things differently and think about how the receiver stalling is actually giving the server ample time to think up a trickier serve. There's always an other perspective.
More importantly, Relax, Table Tennis is not out to get France, France has not even been in the big picture of a TT power since Gatien's era until last year, and the current rules were the same in 2021, They didn't change because Felix and Alexis joined the sport. The Lebruns' do not have perfectly clean serves either, so I don't know what's the gripe about. The CNT's play normally is fast paced power shots, so they're still most likely to win without any breathers. Btw, you can watch stills from most non Chinese players you can think of signalling with their hand to delay the serve a bit, Harimoto does it, LYJ does it. Even many European players do it. It's not a phenomenon peculiar only to the CNT, or enforced by the refs due to the CNT.
At the end of the day, whoever wins comes down to skill, will and a little luck. Not who serves the fastest.
please don't bring in other sports. Do talk about rules that pertains to TT and the rights of the server and receiver
We bring other sports to show how those clock rules have made them popular and to explain how TT would benefit from these. What are the most watched events todays ? the ones we have named. Tennis, MLB, NFL, football, rugby, basket-ball be it NBA or Euroleague (and we all know you north americans LOVE the commercials breaks to get your Bud Light or your snacks... or peeing !).
Who are you to say that ? is there any rule in this forum stating we should not compare table tennis with other sports specially when it comes to rules and player's etiquette ? I mean, even rugby referees have seen bad habits emerging when rugby became a pro sport in the early 90's, you should have a talk with Nigel Owens about player's bad habits and foul plays, it's the same bad habits in ALL sports, but only TT does not do anything.
The WTT referees should really take lessons with Nigels Owens
my request is based on the fact that we were discussing whether DIMA broke the rules by slow receiving. of course you can discuss what happens in other sports but as a direct response to the above discussion, you are moving the goal post
Foul play is not determined by the rules only, but also by the etiquette. So sorry, but you're nobody here to tell if we are or not allowed to talk about DIma's and other players behavior. because it's all about behaviors coming from other sports like tennis or football.
Just have a look at this: 2 guys in the world top 10 in 1991, one has been number 1 and world champion already at that time, see the pace of BOTH players in REAL TIME.
21 pts game, no time out, you have to wait 21 to get a water break, towel break each 5 pts. No bouncing, no hand raising, nothing. 159 points played in less than 45 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1FQyJmBHok
THIS is good behavior and the right etiquette. Gatien is out of stamina at the end, that's why he makes a wrong serve. Peopple saying today's TT is way more physical tna 30 years ago or ignorant. I mean... I've played both systems, and todays 11pts is way easier physically speaking, you have a break wooner than before
It took 1 hour to Dima to loose that final 2 days ago with towel breaks each 6 and water breaks each 11 pts for... 146 pts only ! with more breaks than 30 years ago he needs to raise his hand, to bounce the ball, to fake a broken ball, man it's not soccer ! (as Nigel Owens would certainly tell him).
TT is going for worse nowadays with those wrong behaviors, Eurosport was airing big competitions until the covid, now since it's China controlling everything, no hidden serve is enforced because it's not ok for Ma Long and Wang Chuqin, no raising hands is enforced because it would not help the CNT, and now the big broadcasters do not care anymore for TT.
Have you ever looked at things differently and think about how the receiver stalling is actually giving the server ample time to think up a trickier serve. There's always an other perspective.
More importantly, Relax, Table Tennis is not out to get France, France has not even been in the big picture of a TT power since Gatien's era until last year, and the current rules were the same in 2021, They didn't change because Felix and Alexis joined the sport. The Lebruns' do not have perfectly clean serves either, so I don't know what's the gripe about. The CNT's play normally is fast paced power shots, so they're still most likely to win without any breathers. Btw, you can watch stills from most non Chinese players you can think of signalling with their hand to delay the serve a bit, Harimoto does it, LYJ does it. Even many European players do it. It's not a phenomenon peculiar only to the CNT, or enforced by the refs due to the CNT.
At the end of the day, whoever wins comes down to skill, will and a little luck. Not who serves the fastest.
you are funny. BTW I think he was complaining about DIMA mostly
please don't bring in other sports. Do talk about rules that pertains to TT and the rights of the server and receiver
We bring other sports to show how those clock rules have made them popular and to explain how TT would benefit from these. What are the most watched events todays ? the ones we have named. Tennis, MLB, NFL, football, rugby, basket-ball be it NBA or Euroleague (and we all know you north americans LOVE the commercials breaks to get your Bud Light or your snacks... or peeing !).
Who are you to say that ? is there any rule in this forum stating we should not compare table tennis with other sports specially when it comes to rules and player's etiquette ? I mean, even rugby referees have seen bad habits emerging when rugby became a pro sport in the early 90's, you should have a talk with Nigel Owens about player's bad habits and foul plays, it's the same bad habits in ALL sports, but only TT does not do anything.
The WTT referees should really take lessons with Nigels Owens
my request is based on the fact that we were discussing whether DIMA broke the rules by slow receiving. of course you can discuss what happens in other sports but as a direct response to the above discussion, you are moving the goal post
Foul play is not determined by the rules only, but also by the etiquette. So sorry, but you're nobody here to tell if we are or not allowed to talk about DIma's and other players behavior. because it's all about behaviors coming from other sports like tennis or football.
Just have a look at this: 2 guys in the world top 10 in 1991, one has been number 1 and world champion already at that time, see the pace of BOTH players in REAL TIME.
21 pts game, no time out, you have to wait 21 to get a water break, towel break each 5 pts. No bouncing, no hand raising, nothing. 159 points played in less than 45 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1FQyJmBHok
THIS is good behavior and the right etiquette. Gatien is out of stamina at the end, that's why he makes a wrong serve. Peopple saying today's TT is way more physical tna 30 years ago or ignorant. I mean... I've played both systems, and todays 11pts is way easier physically speaking, you have a break wooner than before
It took 1 hour to Dima to loose that final 2 days ago with towel breaks each 6 and water breaks each 11 pts for... 146 pts only ! with more breaks than 30 years ago he needs to raise his hand, to bounce the ball, to fake a broken ball, man it's not soccer ! (as Nigel Owens would certainly tell him).
TT is going for worse nowadays with those wrong behaviors, Eurosport was airing big competitions until the covid, now since it's China controlling everything, no hidden serve is enforced because it's not ok for Ma Long and Wang Chuqin, no raising hands is enforced because it would not help the CNT, and now the big broadcasters do not care anymore for TT.
Have you ever looked at things differently and think about how the receiver stalling is actually giving the server ample time to think up a trickier serve. There's always an other perspective.
More importantly, Relax, Table Tennis is not out to get France, France has not even been in the big picture of a TT power since Gatien's era until last year, and the current rules were the same in 2021, They didn't change because Felix and Alexis joined the sport. The Lebruns' do not have perfectly clean serves either, so I don't know what's the gripe about. The CNT's play normally is fast paced power shots, so they're still most likely to win without any breathers. Btw, you can watch stills from most non Chinese players you can think of signalling with their hand to delay the serve a bit, Harimoto does it, LYJ does it. Even many European players do it. It's not a phenomenon peculiar only to the CNT, or enforced by the refs due to the CNT.
At the end of the day, whoever wins comes down to skill, will and a little luck. Not who serves the fastest.
you are funny. BTW I think he was complaining about DIMA mostly
The essence of the tirade was in the last paragraph, it has been a gradual build-up to that, Dima is just an "old" player taking advantage of the rules, Ultimate blame is with China who has been allegedly "running things" and spoiling them since WTT, and allowing players like Dima to circumvent the rules. How they won anything in Tokyo is a mystery to me, since that was in No-nonsense Japan. We'll see what excuse France has at Paris 2024, Thank Goodness the control is in their hands in that event. I hope they can enforce the "right" rules.
please don't bring in other sports. Do talk about rules that pertains to TT and the rights of the server and receiver
We bring other sports to show how those clock rules have made them popular and to explain how TT would benefit from these. What are the most watched events todays ? the ones we have named. Tennis, MLB, NFL, football, rugby, basket-ball be it NBA or Euroleague (and we all know you north americans LOVE the commercials breaks to get your Bud Light or your snacks... or peeing !).
Who are you to say that ? is there any rule in this forum stating we should not compare table tennis with other sports specially when it comes to rules and player's etiquette ? I mean, even rugby referees have seen bad habits emerging when rugby became a pro sport in the early 90's, you should have a talk with Nigel Owens about player's bad habits and foul plays, it's the same bad habits in ALL sports, but only TT does not do anything.
The WTT referees should really take lessons with Nigels Owens
my request is based on the fact that we were discussing whether DIMA broke the rules by slow receiving. of course you can discuss what happens in other sports but as a direct response to the above discussion, you are moving the goal post
Foul play is not determined by the rules only, but also by the etiquette. So sorry, but you're nobody here to tell if we are or not allowed to talk about DIma's and other players behavior. because it's all about behaviors coming from other sports like tennis or football.
Just have a look at this: 2 guys in the world top 10 in 1991, one has been number 1 and world champion already at that time, see the pace of BOTH players in REAL TIME.
21 pts game, no time out, you have to wait 21 to get a water break, towel break each 5 pts. No bouncing, no hand raising, nothing. 159 points played in less than 45 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1FQyJmBHok
THIS is good behavior and the right etiquette. Gatien is out of stamina at the end, that's why he makes a wrong serve. Peopple saying today's TT is way more physical tna 30 years ago or ignorant. I mean... I've played both systems, and todays 11pts is way easier physically speaking, you have a break wooner than before
It took 1 hour to Dima to loose that final 2 days ago with towel breaks each 6 and water breaks each 11 pts for... 146 pts only ! with more breaks than 30 years ago he needs to raise his hand, to bounce the ball, to fake a broken ball, man it's not soccer ! (as Nigel Owens would certainly tell him).
TT is going for worse nowadays with those wrong behaviors, Eurosport was airing big competitions until the covid, now since it's China controlling everything, no hidden serve is enforced because it's not ok for Ma Long and Wang Chuqin, no raising hands is enforced because it would not help the CNT, and now the big broadcasters do not care anymore for TT.
Have you ever looked at things differently and think about how the receiver stalling is actually giving the server ample time to think up a trickier serve. There's always an other perspective.
More importantly, Relax, Table Tennis is not out to get France, France has not even been in the big picture of a TT power since Gatien's era until last year, and the current rules were the same in 2021, They didn't change because Felix and Alexis joined the sport. The Lebruns' do not have perfectly clean serves either, so I don't know what's the gripe about. The CNT's play normally is fast paced power shots, so they're still most likely to win without any breathers. Btw, you can watch stills from most non Chinese players you can think of signalling with their hand to delay the serve a bit, Harimoto does it, LYJ does it. Even many European players do it. It's not a phenomenon peculiar only to the CNT, or enforced by the refs due to the CNT.
At the end of the day, whoever wins comes down to skill, will and a little luck. Not who serves the fastest.
you are funny. BTW I think he was complaining about DIMA mostly
The essence of the tirade was in the last paragraph, it has been a gradual build-up to that, Dima is just an "old" player taking advantage of the rules, Ultimate blame is with China who has been allegedly "running things" and spoiling them since WTT, and allowing players like Dima to circumvent the rules. How they won anything in Tokyo is a mystery to me, since that was in No-nonsense Japan. We'll see what excuse France has at Paris 2024, Thank Goodness the control is in their hands in that event. I hope they can enforce the "right" rules.
didn't read that last paragraph. Boy this guy is very biased.
Rankings are out now. Hayata moves up a spot to WR#5. Felix is at WR#9. Dima is at WR#8. LYJ down to WR#10. Next week, points from WTT Finals expire. This is huge for Tomo as has 1050 points from last year's WTT Finals. He still should remain in top 10, but on the lower end.
This is going to be interesting for sure.
Yes, interesting on many fronts. WYD has 525 pts expiring from 2022 WTT Finals so she'll drop to #5 allowing Hayata to grab #4. Mima Ito, currently at WR#9, has 265 pts expiring so will drop out of the top 10. Although not directly tied the 3rd spot in Paris 2024, it doesn't help her case if her ranking is in a downward trajectory. Miu Hirano is right on the edge of making or not making the 2023 WTT Finals in December so she needs to keep her ranking up by doing well in Frankfurt. Adriana Diaz has 265 pts expiring from WTT Finals followed by 500 pts expiring the following week from 2022 Pan Am Champs. Winning or making the finals at the Pan Am Games is a must for Adriana Diaz to keep her ranking up.
Rankings are out now. Hayata moves up a spot to WR#5. Felix is at WR#9. Dima is at WR#8. LYJ down to WR#10. Next week, points from WTT Finals expire. This is huge for Tomo as has 1050 points from last year's WTT Finals. He still should remain in top 10, but on the lower end.
This is going to be interesting for sure.
Yes, interesting on many fronts. WYD has 525 pts expiring from 2022 WTT Finals so she'll drop to #5 allowing Hayata to grab #4. Mima Ito, currently at WR#9, has 265 pts expiring so will drop out of the top 10. Although not directly tied the 3rd spot in Paris 2024, it doesn't help her case if her ranking is in a downward trajectory. Miu Hirano is right on the edge of making or not making the 2023 WTT Finals in December so she needs to keep her ranking up by doing well in Frankfurt. Adriana Diaz has 265 pts expiring from WTT Finals followed by 500 pts expiring the following week from 2022 Pan Am Champs. Winning or making the finals at the Pan Am Games is a must for Adriana Diaz to keep her ranking up.
The 500 pts Diaz is losing would be replaced by 175 from the Panam Champs. So she definitely has to get to the finals to make that 175 go to 350 or win it to make it 500.
Broke sports deal with it. The rich sports realize they are selling fair competition and entertainment and find ways to enhance both with rule changes.
Badminton is pretty much the same. Many Olympic sports are broke. The fact is, all rich sports do not care about the Olympics, Soccer/Football, Basketball, Tennis Golf, etc. Until the day WTT makes table tennis independent of Olympics, it's not gonna happen.
Wow! I never knew badminton paid so well. There are quite a few good players in North America who stopped playing table tennis tournaments because coaching is safer and more lucrative.
Resolution B-01 – Effective immediately if it passes (Simple majority required) Proposed by the ITTF Executive Committee To establish a Working Group with representatives of the Athletes Commission, Umpires and Referees Committee, Rules Committee, the Technical Commissioner (and any other relevant Committees/Officials/staff as deemed necessary), with the goal to develop a regulation about “Time between points”. Rationale: Time between points is a critical issue, especially for those, who are not hard-core fans of table tennis. Multiple times during events, players take too long between points, which makes the matches, and the competition days longer making more difficult to create clear schedules and in addition affects the interest of spectators/viewers/broadcasters. The goal of this project is to find ways to enforce more effectively regulation 3.4.4.1 about continuous play. More effective methods (i.e. time control, match officials’ reminders etc.) should be implemented in events with the aim to develop and improve the current regulations.
11.3.2. Time Between Points 20220129-EC-09 The Executive Committee agreed for the Time Between Points Working Group to be composed as follows: MAEHARA Masahiro (EC member who will act as chair of the WG), Graeme IRELAND (Technical Commissioner), two members of the Athletes Commission (with one being a Para Athlete), one member of the URC, one member of the Rules Committee, one staff with experience in competition matters and one staff with experience in media matters.
The Athletes Commission members contributed to many working groups throughout 2021. We were able to actively participate and represent the voice of the athletes on the Governance Review Working Group represented by Sarah Hanffou, the Olympic and Paralympic Qualification System WG through Galia Dvorak and Trevor Hirth, the World Ranking WG through Jean-Michel Saive and Dana Cechova and the Time Between Points WG through Alena Kanova and Marcos Madrid.
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