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SteveWAD 
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 Topic: US Open 12/16 to 12/21 Ontario: QuestionPosted: 11/05/2023 at 1:33am |
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Hi TT Fans, I want to come watch the finals of the US Open this year, does anyone know what day to come to watch the finals ?by the way The tournament is till Dec 21 ! which is a Thursday, bit odd to end a tournament mid week, so now im not sure best day to come by and watch the best maches. Any info on the schedule would be appreciated Regards  Edited by SteveWAD - 11/05/2023 at 1:33am |
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Vince64
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Posted: 11/05/2023 at 12:38pm |
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You can buy a tournament pass for the whole tournament for 100.00 which includes the finals. If you just want to watch the finals that pass is 40.00. The Finals will be on Wednesday the 20th.
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Posted: 11/05/2023 at 4:39pm |
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$100. to spectate for the whole Open. Shows how the $ has depreciated.
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SteveWAD
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Posted: 11/06/2023 at 9:25pm |
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Thats why i dont enter to play $80, per-event LOL, nope not doin that !, but now cost prohibitive to even watch. Now it'snt that just peachy.
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mts388
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Posted: 11/07/2023 at 12:37pm |
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I think paying $40 for the finals of a national championship is an extremely good deal. You'll have to pay much more than that to see the finals of any other sport. Even regular season games in most sports will cost more than $40. Entry fee of $80 for a national championship is also a great deal. It costs over $100 to enter a local 5K race. I would like to see more money flow into table tennis.
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jfolsen
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Posted: 11/07/2023 at 2:11pm |
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At the North American Teams a visitor pass is $20 for all 3 days.
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mts388
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Posted: 11/07/2023 at 4:48pm |
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The value of a 3 day pass is far more than the $20 charged. If we want our sport to be successful on a professional level in he United States, we have to bring more money into the sport. It's crazy to complain about having to pay $100 to watch 5 days of high level table tennis at the Open.
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NextLevel
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Posted: 11/07/2023 at 10:52pm |
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Most money comes from TV deals to be honest.
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jfolsen
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Posted: 11/08/2023 at 3:01pm |
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It's also supply and demand. You can charge more, but are you trying to maximize profit or encourage spectating? The people I see in the stands are players and relatives, not much else in the USA. I remember one US Open a few decades ago where we all had to sit in one section of the mostly empty stadium so it looked good for the cameras. The WTT stands are usually sparsely populated, and a high number of the ones in seats are wearing badges. I would be curious how many of those $100 all inclusive tickets they sell. We need sponsors and advertisers, sell broadcasting rights, things that the USATT should be focused on. I fear overcharging for visitors will suppress the number of people attending.
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ZApenholder
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Posted: 11/09/2023 at 1:28pm |
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Good question
Get more spectators or milk as much profits from the spectators that comes? Even in China, they had to bus in kids/army to fill in the seats. At WTTC Durban, they had to do the same thing If you going to have a tv deal and the background shows empty chairs - that would likely be more damage than making 0 from ticket sales. In the 2 examples I have above - they spent money to bring in people to fill the seats. I'm not sure if they offered extra (like meals or what not) I agree TV deal is where the big money is. and once there is a audience base, then there is commercial value for advertising
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mts388
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Posted: 11/09/2023 at 6:13pm |
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Generally to get TV coverage you have to show them you have a fan base (which we don't have) or you need something unique or odd (which again we don't have). A major sponsor would help, but sponsors also want a loyal fan base. I once contacted a sponsor for an event that I was putting on that would draw 1,000+ people. His answer was that he could sponsor a large local church and get more results than we would get him. I think the key is to get large media coverage prior to the event that would get us a large crowd. We could then take those results and have a much better chance attracting a TV or sponsor deal. I once tried to get Bank of America to sponsor one of my non profit events. He laughed and said no, who would want to sponsor something like that. I talked him into attending the event. When he left he was so impressed by the size and enthusiastic crowd that he committed $25,000 a year forever. We need TT players to give potential sponsors/donors a good presentation at every table tennis event. Some of our players at the Nationals or Open look like they just left a homeless camp. We need a strict dress code to start with. I'll end my rant Mike |
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Posted: 11/09/2023 at 7:20pm |
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It was a good rant! If you are trying to sell something, presentation is important.
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Posted: 11/09/2023 at 9:03pm |
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Well, its not what you know, its who you know. If you able to speak (negotiate), then there is a start. I'm sure when your VIP was invited to your event - the presentation was on par, if not over par. But at the moment, TT tournaments are like a ghost town. I once said this - if TT's own community isn't support tournament (by filling it up), then why would outsiders support it? I once commented on a national tournament in South Africa where they should disallow players coming up to receive medals wearing slippers (or any uncovered footwear). It is not an afternoon at a beach, but a medal "ceremony" |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 at 4:30am |
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Quadri Aruna withdrew, correct? Any big names coming? I see some players from Japan and possibly Pakistan coming?
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