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Bill_in_1918 ![]() Beginner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11/06/2023 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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I'm getting back in the game after a 15-year hiatus (without serious
training or play). I started training and going to tournaments since
Sept and is currently rated USATT 1400.
My style: I play classic Chinese penhold without RPB, meaning FH (attack and loop) and BH(block and chop) use the SAME rubber. My current setup: I recently set up a paddle with Stiga Clipper Wood (7 ply wood, OFF) and DHS Hurricane Neo 3 (2.15mm, 39 degrees). This has been how I set up my paddle when I was a kid. However, as I play now I noticed that I am relying a lot more on BH block and chop rather than FH attack. I also haven't been able to pick up the consistency on my FH attack compared to back then. I don't feel the attack style suits me anymore. Changing my setup: I am thinking to adapt my paddle to this more allround play style. Because I've only ever used one type of rubber and blade, my knowledge on different setup is quite limited. I did some searching online and these are the options I am considering now: Rubber: Yasaka Rakza 7; Yasaka Rakza 7 soft; XIOM Vega Europe. Also, would 2.0 or Max be more suitable? Blade: Yasaka Sweden Extra; Stiga Allround Evolution; Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon; or just keep my current Stiga Clipper Wood and only change rubber. Because of penhold style I am not able to access a lot of products. If there are other considerations or anything I missed, please let me know. Would greatly appreciate any help and suggestions! |
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alb7 ![]() Beginner ![]() Joined: 11/16/2023 Location: Trenton Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Before you even get to the rubbers & blade as a player
returning after 15 years, , TPG (Traditional
Penhold Grip) is a bad idea. TPG was
great until RPG(Reverse Penhold Grip) was developed (just as hardbat was indeed great until sponge era arrived).
But HPG (Hybrid Penhold Grip) is the best as used by Liu Guoliang. I have seen some successful HPG players with
short pips FH and inverted rubber on BH.
Liu Guoliang did block & smash (& also loop) on FH & block on BH short pips using
forehand short and he looped with his inverted on their backhand but boldly & often successfully twiddled at strategic
critical points of a match such as at deuce & looped with inverted on the
forehand. For an amateur player diversity of stroke production is far
more critical than consistency, because most amateurs will never reach the
consistency levels of a pro , however hard they try based on psychotic
delusions that they can be anywhere close to consistency of Ma Long or Waldner.
So when you limit yourselves to TPG, you are making a huge
mistake by limiting your capabilities. I am not saying you will be definitely be
good with RPG if you tried . May be you will suck. I do not know but in which
case you probably should use long pips on your backhand to maintain your
diversity in your overall playing style. But it is lot more fun learning more strokes
& more serves everyday as far as I am concerned. I don’t
know how old you are & how good your forehand loop is & how much better
you may get because it gets progressively harder to sustain a looping or
chopping style or lobbing style as you get older. So maybe you are not even a
forehand looper but probably must be using short pips on forehand , I don’t know but Guo
Yuehua is the only high level TPG inverted looper I can think of (after 1950's) but I can
think of many World Champions like Zhuang
Zedong, Jiang Jilang etc
& players like He Zhewen, David Zhuang who are short pips FH player who played with TPG Edited by alb7 - 11/22/2023 at 5:56pm |
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kolevtt ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06/13/2011 Location: European Union Status: Offline Points: 2544 |
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I have excellent blade for you - DONIC Persson Power Speed Chinese Penhold, the model is used by Ni Xia Liang
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doraemon ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 05/14/2007 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1735 |
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Can you still get this blade? I thought that it is discontinued for years already. For the original question, I think Clipper is a good blade. Although it is a 7-ply allwood blade, which probably might not be suitable for beginners or ex-players (with no formal training) coming back to TT, but I know lots of Chinese players started with this blade (in the past). So if you commit yourself to train, then I think you will have no problem with Clipper.
Yasaka Sweden Extra is a good blade as well, but in the 40+ plastic ball era, I think it is a bit too flexy for easier blocking. What I mean is that you can still block well with Yasaka Extra, but it is easier to do so with stiffer blade (such as Clipper). Of course, for looping, using Extra is easier compared to using Clipper. But training is the key here. Just stick with your blade for awhile. Edited by doraemon - 11/22/2023 at 7:16pm |
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Blade : Just wood
FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
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kolevtt ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06/13/2011 Location: European Union Status: Offline Points: 2544 |
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This blade is about 22 years old model or even more. Already discontinued, but once you have such a blade you don't need another one. I played in 2003 European championship with this model (FL handle, of course). Even today, this model is excellent for the PVC balls. Lot of control and nice energy (not too fast). In this almost unused condition, Persson Power Speed is a real gem. Most of these blades are 100-105 grams, but my Chinese Pen sample is only 94 grams. So, it is the perfect possible weapon after a long break. Don't forget the playing style of Ni Xia Liang when you are writing for control, flexibility, blocking and so on. Anyway, if the topic owner is not interested into this gem, it will be offered to the 1st one who is interested into it. I am also able to trade it straight if someone has the same with FL handle in perfect condition and weight under 95 grams.
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doraemon ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 05/14/2007 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1735 |
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Thank you for your information regarding Persson Powerspeed.
In the past, when I did research on this blade, my local Donic dealer told me that it was discontinued and the closest I can get is Persson Power Carbon, which is basically a Persson Power Speed with 2 additional carbons. I tried Persson Power Carbon, and although it feels woody, but it is too fast for me. Persson Powerplay is the one with the right speed for me, although I would like it more if it is a bit stiffer. I think you are lucky to get that Persson Powerspeed in that excellent condition (although it is a c-pen).
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Blade : Just wood
FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
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