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There are quite a few players in Huntsville.  Most of us just aren't USATT members because it offers very little in this region.  
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Originally posted by RDinTN RDinTN wrote:

Well, as an TD I get a list sent to me from USATT prior to running my events that has everyone in the database listed. I still wish the system would allow current members to see the ratings of past members, I had some great wins in the past but can't prove it!
So I have not paid my USATT dues in years but I could download a CSV file of ALL my matches I have ever played under the USATT banner when I logged in and went to "Tournaments".

In that CSV file we find everything we want: date of the tourney, rating at the time, scores, opponents' names and ratings. So you still have your proofs! :)

 Does it show your ratings ? I logged in OK but  I don't see mine (I am not a current member) 
If you are not a current member, I doubt it shows it on USATT ratings page anywhere. It is masked out with a USATT symbol but shows yoru opponents' rating if they are a current member

But others can get an approximate estimate of your rating based on your wins & losses & based on ratings of a few members you played against at that time.

Or you can just ask a friend  who is a current USATT member to download whatever you need about your rating or any other players' rating. They are all visible to current members.

Or if you want results only after 2011 you can goto Omnipong & just create a free membership & see all the ratings (you do not have to be a USATT member) .

Ratings before 1994 are not on the web but are available in print in USATT / USTTA magazines.






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Yes it shows all my ratings, theirs, dates, venues etc.... here are the headers:

TournamentStartDate TournamentEndDate  Touranament Rating Result Scores Opponent OpponentRating

The only explanation I have for you not to see all that information about your matches is that when you created your SimplyCompete account, it was not correctly linked to what was your USATT ID at the time.


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Originally posted by Tisch Tisch wrote:

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 Does it show your ratings ? I logged in OK but  I don't see mine (I am not a current member) 
If you are not a current member, I doubt it shows it on USATT ratings page anywhere. It is masked out with a USATT symbol but shows yoru opponents' rating if they are a current member

But others can get an approximate estimate of your rating based on your wins & losses & based on ratings of a few members you played against at that time.

Or you can just ask a friend  who is a current USATT member to download whatever you need about your rating or any other players' rating. They are all visible to current members.

Or if you want results only after 2011 you can goto Omnipong & just create a free membership & see all the ratings (you do not have to be a USATT member) .

Ratings before 1994 are not on the web but are available in print in USATT / USTTA magazines.
After you log in, click on your Profile.  Do you see "Tournaments (Download Tournament Match History)" ?
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Originally posted by RDinTN RDinTN wrote:

Well, as an TD I get a list sent to me from USATT prior to running my events that has everyone in the database listed. I still wish the system would allow current members to see the ratings of past members, I had some great wins in the past but can't prove it!
So I have not paid my USATT dues in years but I could download a CSV file of ALL my matches I have ever played under the USATT banner when I logged in and went to "Tournaments".

In that CSV file we find everything we want: date of the tourney, rating at the time, scores, opponents' names and ratings. So you still have your proofs! :)


I'm not a member (ever before) and can't see anything when things are hidden.
There are some things that is good for the public, and hiding good information is really silly. There is nothing to gain, but only to loose from hiding it.

Tournament, player level etc, I can't think of any where else in the world where data gets hidden when player become non active (even ITTF has achieve WR and public player search/profile/stats)

I think hiding things is like few people treating USATT events as mickey mouse event and "members only". But they forget, so many internationals will fly in and play and for those internationals (ie for US Open and other tournaments) - data is no longer, because they were never a member and won't become one, but could come and play again, but then, they don't really exist

Hide Hide Hide..... why?
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

The only explanation I have for you not to see all that information about your matches is that when you created your SimplyCompete account, it was not correctly linked to what was your USATT ID at the time. 

I had the same USATT ID forever. So I doubt it
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

After you log in, click on your Profile.  Do you see "Tournaments (Download Tournament Match History)" ?  
I see the page but no results shown.
But strangely it shows my umpire level & coach level which I never renewed (Obviously)
Clicking on Download Tournament History returns me to the same page below
See attachment below 


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Originally posted by Tisch Tisch wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

After you log in, click on your Profile.  Do you see "Tournaments (Download Tournament Match History)" ?  
I see the page but no results shown.
But strangely it shows my umpire level & coach level which I never renewed (Obviously)
Clicking on Download Tournament History returns me to the same page below
See attachment below 
Strange.  The ratings page on USATT's website ( https://www.usatt.org/events-and-results/ratings ) says:

If you encounter any problems or issues in using the page, please email [email protected].
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Will Memphis, TN - 4 hours driving away - help filling the bleachers? 


In USA, when you say  "fill the bleachers" , do you mean with non-table-tennis players ?  Even most family members of players don't come to watch. They find excuses to go for everything else , even stuff they don't like LOL.  If USATT tracked number of non-players & families, you can count with one hand

Name some countries that fill the bleachers other than China & maybe Germany  
 
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

If you encounter any problems or issues in using the page, please email [email protected].
You probably are a USATT member & that is why you can see the results.
I still am not sure how Stilltt can if he is not a USATT member

Anyway why should or would USATT help a non member  ? LOL 
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

[QUOTE=stiltt], I can't think of any where else in the world where data gets hidden when player become non active (even ITTF has achieve WR and public player search/profile/stats)


 
On German ratings page ( TTR  ) ? (Members only) 

And I cannot even access China Association website  https://tabletennis.sport.org.cn/   or Taiwan   https://cttta.org.tw/




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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

If you encounter any problems or issues in using the page, please email [email protected].

I can find 100s of problems  with USATT website & would be happy to do it if they pay me even with at least a free lifetime membership & allow me to play few event free at US Open.

For instance the Login button should be on the Home Page as most websites do (or at least inside the membership dropdown tab) .   
Also almost all serious websites have a email fillin box at the bottom of every page for signing up for Free Newsletter . (USATT does have a newsletter but it does not reach the more important audience , the non-members (potential members)  ).
I can go On & on. I realize some items are as they are due to political or such reasons but most problems I can find (or found) ar enot.
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